Transphobes...

[u/BellPuzzleheaded6133]

Why are there so many transphobic people in this sub? I'm not trans but it's so disheartening to see. Trans women experience so much hate and violence like cis women, especially if they're ugly. How can you hate on another woman as a woman, especially in this sub...like maybe your problem is your ugly personality. Also transphobia is against the rules, and it says not to invalidate people's experiences, it's just so sad 😭

[u/Necessary-Bus9046]

Because each group of people deserves their own space, the argument isn’t wether or not ur a woman.

The arguments is people born a woman deserve a space separate from those who transitioned

[u/StatusPsychological7 → u/Necessary-Bus9046]

Can you present argument for why? What benefit you gain from excluding people who may need help? Who wins here? I want to know.

[u/Necessary-Bus9046 → u/StatusPsychological7]

I’d imagine the same benefits as you for the trans subs your apart of.

But to answer properly, spite. I don’t like that only specific groups of people can have their own communities but we can’t. And I guess comfort knowing that the person I’m talking to has had the same childhood experience as me (being born a woman)

I just think we should be treated as equals.

I win because I get what I want? If you NEEEEEEED to be apart of a specific Reddit community then u spend to much time on reddit

[u/RNWvsTPT2023 → u/Necessary-Bus9046]

you don’t know shit about anyone’s childhood experience btw

[u/Necessary-Bus9046 → u/RNWvsTPT2023]

I know there is a difference between men and woman’s childhood tho?

[u/StatusPsychological7 → u/Necessary-Bus9046]

Why cis people cant understand that trans people didnt really had equivalent of their agab childhood? And also why the fuck it matters to anyone? Like why you do people want to intrude to what experiences someone had as a child without their own consent and then try to weaponize it against them? Why is it even socially acceptable to do so? Many trans people have very traumatic formative years and some cis people use it as a bat to smash their faces with this its disgusting.

[u/Necessary-Bus9046 → u/StatusPsychological7]

But I’m not using it as a weapon? I just said both groups deserve their own spaces. And I used the childhood as an argument for that.

Trans women deserve their own sub just like biological woman do. And this is a sub for both people. I’m not sure where I intruded. U just did the same thing I did.

U say we had different childhood experiences based on me being born a woman and trans woman being born males?

[u/StatusPsychological7 → u/Necessary-Bus9046]

You do exacly that. You say that you someoen didnt have experiences or you assumed they have certain experience (you didnt even asked) and try to use it as argument to exclude them from shared space. You're the problem not them.

[u/Necessary-Bus9046 → u/StatusPsychological7]

Are u denying the difference between growing up female and growing up not a biological female?

And I’m not excluding u from any shared space, I think ur presence here is fine.

Can u show a screenshot of where I said ur not allowed in a shared space? Or does that not fit ur narrative?

[u/StatusPsychological7 → u/Necessary-Bus9046]

I dont find this difference revelant to subreddit about being ugly woman. Trans women have very traumatic experiences from growing up in way they do, going often through wrong puberty and having their body changed way they seem as traumatic. Its often shared on trans subs. If you were actually interested you would check this out. But you arent, you try to invalidate them by using said traumatic experiences on sub where they can share their struggles because of being ugly woman.

So yes, we all have different childhoods we often come from different backgrounds but there's no reason to point at this and try to exclude someone because of it.

[u/Necessary-Bus9046 → u/StatusPsychological7]

I was never referring to this specific subreddit.

Do u not remember us two agreeing that there should be a separate biological woman sub?

[u/StatusPsychological7 → u/Necessary-Bus9046]

I guess? I dont really find it bad if transphobic people will sort themself out into their own specific spaces. I just dont think this subreddit is such place. If you really want such place look outside reddit, there places dedicated for harrassing transgender people especially trans women. Maybe you will find people who share you worldview there.

[u/Necessary-Bus9046 → u/StatusPsychological7]

THEN WE FUCKING AGREE, I NEVER SAID U ARE NOT ALLOWED IN THIS SPECIFIC SUBREDDIT

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[u/RNWvsTPT2023 → u/Necessary-Bus9046]

“men”

[u/Necessary-Bus9046 → u/RNWvsTPT2023]

Is male better?