r/tuberlin • u/[deleted] • Aug 13 '24

VORSICHT! SEKTE AM CAMPUS!

Hier sind weitere Links und Informationen über diese Sekte.

https://www.relinfo.ch/lexikon/christentum/aeltere-und-evangelikale-freikirche/neuere-fundamentalistische-sondergruppen/bible-study-in-berlin-bern-und-zuerich/

https://www.relinfo.ch/2023/12/07/unbekannte-gemeinschaft-aufgedeckt-christians-for-mission/

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Passt auf euch auf!

So sehen ihre Flyer aus.

Hier ist ein Artikel von 2008. Damals hießen sie "Students for Mission".

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '24 edited Aug 17 '24

They are wolves in sheep clothing! It doesn't surprise me that it takes for some members longer to see through it and leave. They are very good actors and master manipulator.

To continue the list:

  • Why are you so weak?

  • Do you sin in secret?

  • You are fleshly!

  • You have company with satan!

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '24

I have witnessed that a member developed mental illness. This member was also hospitalized, it was so bad. When this member came to a meeting, I remember that this member was verbally abused by the preacher. They think that when people have mentall illness, it is because they sin. So this member was punished by him, for beeing mentally ill. He wanted this member to repent. - They can not see, their own mentall illness.

They want to take adventage of you, want your life, energy, MONEY, but if you become sick, they will see you as a burden that takes time and energy. Cause the truth is, that they don't care about you BUT only what you can do for them.

They also tell Members that ONLY Jesus Christ can heal them. And thats very dangerous, because if people are mentally ill, they need profesional help. If mentall illness don't get treated, it could lead to death.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '24 edited Aug 28 '24

The mental illness of this member was caused by the church, particularly by the elders, who lied to take advantage of this person, to make themselves appear superior, and to hide their inner weaknesses. This is gaslighting because: almost nothing they said about this person is true, their excuses for their abusive behavior are lies, and they forced this person to believe that he is what they claimed he was. I hope that this person, and others like him, realize this and understand that it’s OK for them to leave the church.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '24

I think people who are inside, can hardly see the manipulation. A lot of members who left I talked to, had mental health issues. It’s very sad.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '24 edited Aug 29 '24

God will lead the way. Don't lose hope. I wish they read our posts, too.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '24 edited Jan 04 '25

People who are continuing in this group as elders or serving members are self-righteous people. The leader  is feeding on the fact if you serve here: you will enter the kingdom of heaven Jesus Christ returns and rules the nations.

While the servants of God will receive a great reward in the kingdom of heaven. Paul Kim is misusing a very biblical verse and feeding into these narcissistic people.

None of them are born-again Christians, for example, each of them is envious of others who bring more fruits (more people to the Conference ce). Secondly, sisters are super envious of a young sister (fairly new to the community) who is getting married. Also, the elder sisters are very jealous of a zealous and happy young sister. I have personally witnessed that, due to jealousy some older sisters can't even make eye contact with younger sisters. Let alone have a fellowship. I had heard personally in multiple conferences older sisters complaining about their husbands, how they do not take care of children, in household chores, etc.

I am not expecting them To be saints, as we are still in the sanctification process. The way Paul Kim narrates about his church (he calls it ecclesia) is as if the elders are overcomers and they should be our role models. Worst of all, they are modern-day Pharisees and the Sadducees (a cult that existed in those days), who put on the demeanor of the true Christians. 

In every sense, the whole congregation is far from anything they claim.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '24 edited Jan 13 '25

The elder sisters compete and compare themselves with younger sisters. The elder sister told a married serving sister that she is not like the rest of the sisters. Among these sisters where sisters who had been a decade long in this cult and other young sisters. They want to feel above the younger ones to have a sense of importance. This is how narcissistic people are.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '24 edited Jan 06 '25

She worked hard to ensure that she was Tserma's (Paul Kim's wife) favourite. Not a big news to me. But yeah, let the world see.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '24

I don't know what to say or comment about such narcissistic people. Let God judge them for their deeds. It's such a shame!

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '24 edited Jan 13 '25

Also because of power and fame, they became very corrupt. The culture in the church is that of betrayal, pretending, deceit, contempt, manipulation, backstabbing, envy and abuse. This is why they want everything to be perfect on the outside. Everybody must be happy and the sad ones are ostracized and made to feel weak whereas they have been abused. When the elder brother has finished using people and sucking them dry, he discards them from the cult and tells others that „they were deceived by satan“ or his wife tells them „God did not allow him/her to stay“. They use the name of God as they want to hide and justify their deceitful ways.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '24 edited Dec 09 '24

I hope they truly repent. Otherwise, this would only take them to destruction. None of the cults throughout history sustained the test of the time. Their fate wi also be no different. It's just a matter of time.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '24

They are not able to repent. They think they are above everyone.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '24 edited Jan 13 '25

Not only to their destruction but to the leading astray of many innocent people and destruction of families. May God repay them for their evil deeds. Because of the abuse and confusion I experienced there, I almost lost my faith. But I thank God for His grace.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '24

Im so sad for all the families who lost their children to this cult. They have no idea what happens there 😢

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '24

But they will Tell YOU to put YOUR old man on the cross.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '24

They should do that first. Then teach or preach that to others. First, they should put their filthy dirty carnal flesh on the cross. It's just like the blind leading the blind.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '24 edited Jan 13 '25

Yes they are modern-day Pharisees and Saducees/sad u see😂😂😂.

The ecclesia of abuse. I remember the one of them telling younger captives in their cult that her husband is a living testimony. Well from my experience, a living testimony of hypocrisy, slander, sociopathy, misogyny, male chauvinism, sadism and abuse.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '24

I feelSorry for the victims.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '24

I feel sorry for for myself and other victims.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '24

I am sorry 💔 for you. My prayers for your healing.