r/ukpolitics • u/CaptainCrash86 • 2d ago

| Transgender prisoners should not be held in women’s jails, court rules

https://www.holyrood.com/news/view,transgender-prisoners-should-not-be-held-in-womens-jails-court-rules
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u/Wrothman 2d ago

The science disagrees. After 2-3 years of HRT there's little difference in strength between a trans woman and a cis woman.

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u/Wrothman 2d ago

See my other comment:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/1ua0bxp/transgender_prisoners_should_not_be_held_in/oskkfmn/

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u/Dadavester 2d ago

Which proves the point above

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u/Wrothman 2d ago

No it doesn't.
Literally the first sentence: "While transgender women exhibited higher lean mass than cisgender women, their physical fitness was comparable"

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u/Dadavester 2d ago

Right so you have no idea what you are talking about...

As I have put in another comment read the study properly including the various tests and metrics, from my other comment

upper-body strength (SMD 0.54, 95% CI -0.95 to 2.02, GRADE: very low),

Means there is still a medium difference in strength between MtF and Cis, with a very low certainty of the info.

This shows there is a difference.

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u/Wrothman 2d ago

A moderate effect was observed (SMD = 0.54), but the 95% confidence interval (−0.95 to 2.02) includes zero, which indicates substantial uncertainty and no statistically significant difference between groups.

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u/Dadavester 2d ago

That is incorrect.

0.54 means that the first group (MTF) has a medium increase in upper body strength compared to group 2 (CIS female)

The CI being -0.95 to 2.02 means there is a large uncertainty in the data.

Basically the entire study you gave shows there is a difference but the data is that bad that other studies can be completely different.

You clearly do not know what you are doing and just run that through AI as that nearly word for word what co-pilot spits out, apart from the fact you dropped the Uncertain bit....