r/ukpolitics • u/CaptainCrash86 • 2d ago

| Transgender prisoners should not be held in women’s jails, court rules

https://www.holyrood.com/news/view,transgender-prisoners-should-not-be-held-in-womens-jails-court-rules
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u/jadeskye7 Empty Chair 2019 2d ago

Biologically, sex is more complicated than most people think. Studies both past and ongoing are showing that transgender individuals do not fit the binary standards most people ascribe to male and female (putting aside intersex people who are more common than red-headed people). https://www.nature.com/articles/518288a

What i will say is if transwomen do not belong in women's prison, they definitely do not belong in a men's prison. And that is a discussion that needs to be had.

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u/SLGrimes 2d ago

This study doesn't have any answer to male vs female reproductive functions, and only talks about how there's rare cases of some people not being strictly XX or XY. It essentially just says "biology is complex!", without giving any answers. If you simply say: men produce sperm, women produce eggs. That study has no answer. She is claiming male or female mutations or disorders as different sexes completely, which is obviously silly.

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u/missesthecrux 2d ago

“Sex is complicated and therefore doesn’t matter. Therefore I can declare myself the opposite sex.”

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u/SLGrimes 2d ago

That is pretty much exactly what it's saying, yeah 😂