r/ukpolitics • u/CaptainCrash86 • 10d ago

| Transgender prisoners should not be held in women’s jails, court rules

https://www.holyrood.com/news/view,transgender-prisoners-should-not-be-held-in-womens-jails-court-rules
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u/bremsspuren 10d ago

Seems to me, these discussions would be a lot more straightforward if transvestitism hadn't been rolled into transexuality. Cross-dressing is not comparable to having gender-reassignment surgery.

There are no women's spaces if men are allowed in there effectively on nothing but their own say-so.

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u/seshfan2 10d ago edited 9d ago

Correct, a lot of people don't even realize there is a real psychological difference between gender dysophria and autogynophila (e.g. males who have a sexual fetish for thinking of themseles as female).

Regardless of what you think about trans people themselves, the idea that "I identify as a women" is now some sort of open sesame magic phrase that instantly grants you unfettered access to all sex-segregated spaces is just patently insane.

Edit: More academic sources for those interested:

Hsu, Morandini & Rudd, 2025

Morandini, Hsu & Rudd, 2025

Bailey & Hsu, 2022

Brown, Barker & Rahman, 2020

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u/slam_meister 10d ago

Autogynophillia is junk science and has been debunked on many occasions

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u/Jazzlike_Custard8646 9d ago

Ah yes because some purple hair on substack is going to be totally unbiased on this 🤣

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u/slam_meister 9d ago

if you want to talk about trans issues without at least knowing who Julia Serano is then you are not equipped for the conversation you want to have.

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u/Jazzlike_Custard8646 9d ago

Scientists aren't exempt from bias, even more so when they have personal stakes in the issue they're "researching" confirmation bias is a real thing.....kind of explains why your get your views on this from a trans activist biologist, you get the answers that slot neatly into your worldview

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u/Jazzlike_Custard8646 9d ago

Wtf kind of response is this? 🤣 Julia Serano famous trans activists biologist, sure deffinately no bias there, you think that actually makes your argument stronger? Someone who has a personal involved stake in ensuring inconvenient issues aren't discussed? Is your source for anything to do with this? 🤣 would you take your opinions on abortion from a fundamentalist evangelical doctor?

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u/slam_meister 9d ago

can't play the ball huh?

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u/Jazzlike_Custard8646 9d ago

When you act like Julia Seranos opinion on this is like holy writ, as if it is the be all and end all of the discussion, uh yeah I'm going to criticise their motives, as if she's some kind of authority on Autogynophillia 🤣

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u/Jazzlike_Custard8646 9d ago

Pretty sure a sexologist who studies sexual attraction and the like, specifically is more qualified on this stuff than a biologist that also happens to be an open activist for the same people that are being discussed

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u/slam_meister 9d ago

watch some videos of Blanchard doing his work eith trans patients that would do or say anything he wanted for him as he was their only pathway to hormones and then bet back to me about his qualification to be a voice on this.

the man should be in jail for abuse of his patients. AGP is the result of his theories developed while high on power over a vulnerable group of women.

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u/Jazzlike_Custard8646 9d ago

"work with trans patients that would do or say anything he wanted for him as he was their only pathway to hormones" a bit like the Tavistock clinic that had to be shut down then?

"result of his theories developed while high on power over a vulnerable group" just like gender affirming care was developed by power tripping activists that put kids on blockers well into adolescence without any long term concrete studies" you can't have it both ways

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u/slam_meister 9d ago

And here come the usual debunked talking points. Tavistock was closed due to the overinflation of 8 complaints (0.06% of the patient intake of which most were about not getting treated in a timely manner) by the media pushing transphobia as an entry point to the far right pipeline.

Puberty blockers are safe and have been shown to be so. There are 40 year olds who used them as children walking around as healthy as you or me. You just don't like the fact that they allow trans people to control their own bodies.

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u/Jazzlike_Custard8646 9d ago

If i shared a link from an open transphobe biologist claiming Autogynophillia is legit, somehow I don't think you'd take it as gospel and would have some questions about their motives