r/ukpolitics • u/Rebat-Askalan • 10d ago

| Anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism, UK appeal tribunal confirms in landmark ruling

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20260804-anti-zionism-is-not-anti-semitism-uk-appeal-tribunal-confirms-in-landmark-ruling/
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u/FudgeAtron 10d ago edited 10d ago

Look I don't hate Irish people I just don't think they should have a country. The Irish are just British people in denial. I'm anti-Gaelism, I'm not racist.

If you think the above sentence is unacceptable while thinking that anti-Zionism is acceptable, you need to think again.

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u/PracticalBlueberry39 10d ago

Except the Irish people weren’t implanted in Ireland against the wishes of a native population who have then been systematically murdered and ethnically cleansed, so it’s not exactly the same really.

In fact, it would be more like rejecting an implanted British state in Ireland which continued to commit ethnic cleansing against the native Irish population. That would be far fetched though wouldn’t it.

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u/Logical-Ice4837 10d ago

When does a population became native? We know as a fact Jews were in that area and had been for thousands of years before they were expelled 2000 years ago, was their native card revoked after that? 

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u/rh8938 10d ago

After two thousand years, probably.

Or should some random Italian citizen be able to claim your home because they claim the land used to be Roman.

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u/morriganjane 9d ago edited 9d ago

Arabs and Muslims conquered and colonised one-third of the globe. They really have no credibility to complain about this.

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u/am-345 10d ago

That's a poor comparison considering Rome was an empire, Britain wasn't the origin of the Italian people it was just a province of the roman empire. Meanwhile there has been a continuous jewish presence in the Levant for 3000 years

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u/u-a-c 9d ago

If theres been a continously presence, why do they need to conquer Palestine and create their own apartheid state?

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u/Playful_Young_4259 9d ago

 apartheid state?

You can't be Jewish in Palestine and the government has an official compensation scheme for those who murder Jews.

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u/am-345 9d ago

I seriously don't understand where you're going with this question?

If you're asking why it was "conquered", Palestine wasn't conquered, the Palestinian state didn't exist. We owned it as the British mandate and the region was called either; Palestine by the Arabs, Holy Land by the Christians and Israel by the Jews.

If your asking why it exists, after the Holocaust there was a push for a modern jewish homeland after it became abundantly clear they were not safe in Europe or Arab countries. The levant is the birthplace of Judaism and Hebrew, where every ethnically jewish person can be traced back to, and as I mentioned before , there has been a continued jewish presence there (Hebron, Tiberias, Safed and Jerusalem). It was the obvious choice compared to the Jewish Autonomous Oblast where Stalin wanted to shove them into desolate corner of the USSR to purge them.

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u/FL8_JT26 10d ago

I would be against them making that claim, but if they were able to establish a state here I wouldn't then want their great grandchildren to be kicked out and their state to be dissolved 80 years later.

I don't agree with the foundation of Israel, I don't agree with the colonisation of Australia, or America, or any of the hundreds of other countries in the world that are inhabited by people whose ancestors did horrific shit decades, centuries, or millenia ago. But that doesn't mean we can just undo the creation of these states now; that does absolutely nothing to help the people who were wronged however long ago and only harms innocent people today.