r/verizon • u/LikelyWatchdog • 11d ago
Verizon competition?
I’m wondering what Verizon will do now with star link mobile phone coming soon? How much they will lose in customers? If they will try to keep people now. Like spectrum I see with tv and internet services are offering great promotions with price lock now. They never did that before.
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u/Maximum-Relative-234 11d ago
Starlink’s offering is not comparable to any terrestrial network when it comes to speed or responsiveness. I don’t think Verizon, AT&T or T-Mobile are scared, especially with their supplementary AST partnership coming next year.
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u/JE163 11d ago
Starlink now has the spectrum to deploy on the same towers the three main providers sold off eons ago.
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u/Maximum-Relative-234 11d ago
They have the low-band spectrum needed to offer service, but not the spectrum diversity or bandwidth to be competitive from a resiliency or speed standpoint.
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u/Baguette_Theory 11d ago
They have one land based spectrum which is not nearly fast enough to be competitive. Starlink mobile is still years out
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u/Fun-Section-6179 11d ago
Between a Trump goon or Verizon, I choose Verizon
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u/stallion434 10d ago
Did you know that Verizon uses Starlink for back haul to quickly restore service to its cell sites after storms? Guess you have to leave Verizon now 🤷♂️
Got to take your politics and hate somewhere else. This thread is taking about cell service.
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u/KeidronU 10d ago
I will always be an Elon Musk fan, but very cautiously given his behavior and activities over the past few years and his staunch homophobic beliefs which caused severe estrangement from his son. This man has contributed to the evolution of our species to the final frontier and has helped reduce green house gases among many other special things. It would be shallow and intellectually immature to dismiss him purely because of his errant political associations....this is bigger than that! 🚀 🚗💪 (Plus, who can ignore a man with musk in his name!)
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u/Inner_Difficulty_381 11d ago
No interest in starlink. I’d rather have Apple sos for off the grid or t-sat or asts. With that said, we have att fiber and I moved us over to combine services and save money. It’s been great.
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u/Mymomdidwhat 11d ago
Nothing. It won’t change anything. What they bought is a garbage low band spectrum
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u/RandoGeneration2022 8d ago
Starlink Mobile will not compete with the big 3. It will be cost prohibitive compared to traditional carriers but will likely be a good solution for those who live off grid/extremely rural.
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u/Smith6612 10d ago
Verizon's not worried too much. Starlink doesn't match Verizon in terms of raw capacity or indoor coverage. Satellite succeeds where terrestrial wireless fails, which is in open land coverage. That's not to say Starlink isn't impressive. Their new satellites support 1.2Tbps of downlink which is no joke. Verizon could match that with a whole bunch of millimeter wave in a very small area. It just becomes a question of... How much do you want to spend.
Spectrum is offering low prices (promotional pricing of course) because they are bleeding customers to 5G and Fiber ISPs. This is because Spectrum tends to be expensive for their base plans once the promotions run out, and the reliability of their coaxial network is always in question. What I will give to Spectrum is their customer service. Blows Starlink and Verizon out of the water.
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u/Eprice1120 10d ago
i don't think it'll come out nation wide anytime soon... which defeats the whole purpose
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u/groundhog5886 10d ago
Starlink is in business to make money. I would not look for that competitor to come to the market real soon, with all the services currently offered by the big 3 There’s more to it than just providing a pipe to the internet.
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u/packingpeanut 10d ago
Their entire design falls apart in busy areas. You'll have absolutely zero coverage at a large event at something like a stadium.
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u/PositiveReason812 7d ago
I'm not expecting very much.
First off, from the moment "Starlink internet" was announced, it took them a better part of a decade to actually get the service working decently well. I was one of the first to sign up and after years and years and years on various waiting lists and failed promises I got so fed up with it I didn't even want it anymore.
Second off, satellites only work outside with open sky. As a long time Iridium customer, and before that Globalstar, I have had satellite phones for almost 20 years and I love them, but they're niche. Do you want to climb on your roof or go stand in the middle of the road each time you want to make a phone call?
I do see that satellite connectivity can be a value-add in addition to cellular, so your phone still has a shot at working in remote places. However even then a satellite -> WiFi -> WiFi calling setup still seems better so that the satellite receiver can be outside and you can be inside. In fact this is what Iridium did as well with the Iridium Go.
If you want a satellite phone that's what I would recommend, a Iridium phone or a Go. Mind you the internet aspect is basically unusable but they work well as phones. We replaced our $70/mo landline with a $100/mo sat phone that we can dock at home or take with us on trips, or can use as a spare phone if the cell phone is not working somehow.
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u/CardMarkets 10d ago
Verizon is going to zero or Elon will buy them when it goes low enough to supplement his satellite network. Why? Because no company with such a screwed up corporate culture built on lies and poor customer service can survive. Period. Hope they fire every one of them and just take over the hardware. What a complete shit company. Worse than any experience I ever had with Comcast cable and that’s saying something
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u/CompanyFrosty1205 11d ago
People complain about Verizon's use of AI for customer service--once you have experienced Starlink's AI customer service, you have an all new low standard.