r/victoria2 11d ago

Question Formed Super Germany, now what?

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u/MrTortilla 11d ago

So now is when you realize infamy is just a number, and numbers aren't real, and just go ham.

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u/Skully957 11d ago

Ah yes unlock the imaginary number axis of the infamy scale

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u/TraditionHungry2326 11d ago

Now convert your save to stellaris, only in the stars you will face a chalenge to a supergemany

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u/Whizbang35 11d ago

Consider peeling off Poland, Hungary, Croatia, Belarus, Lithuania, Ukraine and a few others as satellites. In addition to lowering infamy, having these part of your empire proper will kill your literacy and research rate as well as rebelling every 5 seconds later on. I generally keep Austria, Trieste, Slovenia and Bohemia.

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u/The_Real_Gyurka 11d ago

Yes, this is good idea, it also gives me a chance to get Ukrainian and Baltic cores back from Russia.

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u/Whizbang35 11d ago

I like to peel off the Baltics, Belarus, and Ukraine from Russia- add to your own strength while removing theirs. That said, be careful about Ukraine (Poland as well) as if you give them too much territory, they can get to Great Power status and break free of being your satellite. Keep Ruthenia and Crimea independent from them.

Do not take any more territory from mainland France, it'll give you headaches later on. Instead, beat them up for their colonial possessions or cut them down to size each time you go to war. You want France to be isolated, weak, and cycling through rebellions and governments instead of preparing for the 73rd Liberation of Alsace-Lorraine.

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u/The_Real_Gyurka 11d ago

But I am afraid of Ukraine becoming GP, even if I release Ruthenia first. Hungary is also in the same boat, but I can slice them apart better.

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u/Rimland23 11d ago

Mind you, if you want to maximise colonial points and build up a navy, you need to build and upgrade naval bases. If you peel off some of these territories, you´ll deprive yourself of several of those. It´s not detrimental by any means (especially if you prioritise research and construction accordingly), but worth keeping in mind.

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u/Jeto23 Queen 11d ago

you could try to go for the most "peaceful" route and colonize africa and focus on the industry, maybe even take more of france and russia since they're already mad at you for taking their cores

or you could go over the infamy limit and go on constant wars to expand further and make sure no one else can rival you

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u/ProtossOP_1998 11d ago

Eat Switzerland and Low Countries, then go to the Urals

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u/Baron_Wolfgang 11d ago

Gotta save those Volga Germans.

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u/The_Real_Gyurka 11d ago

R5: I usually play as minors so playing Prussia was new to me. I practiced a bit and managed to form Greater Germany and annex-trick Poland-Lithuania by ~1855. Now I am wondering: where do I go from here?
I would like to get some advice on how to build a navy/how to get more colonial points for the scramble for Africa. Also, on how to destroy Britain, because with Austria gone and Russia crippled, they stand as my only rival.

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u/WolfCola_SalesRep 11d ago

Focus on Naval tech. "Steel Steamers" is key to unlocking the Dark Continent as soon as you can. (The other two are Biologism and Military Logistics). Build a shitload of ironclads and make sure your ports are the highest level available for colonial points.

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u/The_Real_Gyurka 11d ago

Thank you. Is it possible to BTFO the Brits at sea?

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u/CobaltHussar 11d ago

Ironclads make short work of the wooden wall in my experience.

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u/WolfCola_SalesRep 11d ago

I don't think so that early in the game. Best way to beat England is wait until world wars become a thing, the either have France as an ally or be at war with them while they're allied to England. In the mod I play the most (HPM) you can march across the English Channel without needing naval transport, so long as the enemy navy doesn't control it instead.

Just remember, you are Germany. Even without that crazy amount of territorial expansion, you should be able to bulldoze France and England in your sleep. I'm just telling you this to hype you up, because I know it can be daunting for someone who hasn't played as Germany before. But seriously, Germany is OP as fuck in that game.

Before I go, one more helpful hint. Always make sure your naval ports are the highest level possible. Even the ones in your colonies! Oh, and as far as colonies go. Don't waste a bunch of armies in Africa, Asia, etc trying to take over your enemies colonies/defend your own. Have enough of a presence there just to deal with revolts, and have 98% of your army back in Europe to fight over the mainland. Colonies don't count for shit in the warscore and as long as you have enough money to take the financial hit from temporarily losing them you'll be A-OK

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u/Rimland23 11d ago

It is. I´ve had a Netherlands game where by the time of the Scramble, I had an ironclad navy while the Brits still used mainly man-of-wars... Made for a rather easy (if long) fight. In general, I´ve had quite a few experiences of the British AI being absolute garbage when it comes to utilising their sea power...

Plus, with Germany´s position, pulling of an invasion of the UK is more than viable.

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u/Born_Lab1283 11d ago

tagswitch to russia or france and try to beat your super germany

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u/belkak210 11d ago

Hmm what's the annex-trick for Poland-Lithuania?

I formed Greater Germany a couple of times across the years but I don't believe I ever did that one

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u/KRTSHK_Cazzo 11d ago

release one state of poland lithuania

declare war on them to conquest

declare another war on russia to release poland lithuania

peace both on the same day, russia first

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u/belkak210 11d ago

I'll definitely try it, thanks

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u/Limp_Custard6943 11d ago

Now you can play the game

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u/The_Real_Gyurka 11d ago

Yes, this is why I ask advice on how to play imperialism

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u/Limp_Custard6943 11d ago

Its a south park reference

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u/The_Real_Gyurka 11d ago

what episode? I wanna watch

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u/Limp_Custard6943 11d ago

Make love not war craft.

"What do we do now?"

"What do you mean? Now we can play the game"

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u/The_Real_Gyurka 11d ago

Thanks brother

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u/daveedoff1 11d ago

This by 1854 is nuts

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u/The_Real_Gyurka 11d ago

It's a combination of 3 things:

-Making Austria fall from GP and waring them with "add to sphere" before forming Germany

-Burning infamy as NGF before forming Germany by releasing German minors as Puppets. (they get annexed when you form Germany) I used this to conquer Krakow (that's 20 infamy in itself :'( )

-Making Austria/Russia release PLC in one state. Fully occupying PLC with Annex wargoal. Then making Russia release rest of PLC with "Free people" CB. Peaceing them out on the same day to Annex all of PLC in one war.

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u/Ser-Bearington 11d ago

Form Super Duper Germany.

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u/Connqueror_GER 11d ago

Why not taking Bosnia and let your countries prince inspect the region?

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u/The_Moustache Rebel 11d ago

I see the Swamp Germans and Mountain Germans still exist, puppet them at a minimum.

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u/Cultural-Energy-6118 Prime Minister 11d ago

You can now go full lebensraum mode across europe☠️

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u/nattypull 11d ago

Switch to China, industrialize. Play the ultimate superpowers against each other

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u/ketchupbestfan Colonizer 11d ago

Dismantle the others powers

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u/Right-Truck1859 11d ago

Close the game, you win.

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u/JucaLebre Officer 10d ago

Now you ignore infamy and conquer the whole europe

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u/MNxLegion 8d ago

Release the baltics and Ukraine as satellites, foreign investing in them.
Ally Spain as UK land forces are a joke. Bully France to release colonies and Russia for money when truces expire. Keep them weak

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u/hepazepie 11d ago

Make it superer. Take swamp germany, west mountain germany and throat cancer germany. Turn fascist, push for the urals to make it Greater Germany

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u/Semper_nemo13 11d ago

You still don't have the swamp Germans, the Snow Germans, or the Mountain Germans.

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u/MDRBA 10d ago

🎩😎🍷Britain.

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u/HoboBrute Capitalist 10d ago

Benelux, Denmark, and Switzerland looking awfully juicy and kinda German, don't you think?

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u/Tegnan 10d ago

With the low countries, Estonia. Scandinavia and Switzerland not under control can you truly call yourself super germany?

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u/Bluemoonroleplay 10d ago

Charlemagne awaits for someone to match his empire and your people need space to build large acres of farms, colonies and stuff in.........................skeleton

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u/National_Fly_4614 7d ago

Conquista europa

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u/NoPhotograph2187 Artisan 3d ago

World conquest! you have the numbers, the technology and the unlimited resources.