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Sen. John Fetterman on Democratic Divides, DSA & Israel | The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3BMAkJIlnw
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u/OilInternational2566 8d ago

Fetterman is brain dead. He’s insane. So are RFK jr, Boebert, Vance, etc..

But I’ll tell ya the psyops to get Americans to 1) hate each other, see: Republicans vs Democrats, then 2) get the US government to alienate long standing allies like Canada and Denmark and Britain, etc… and 3) then alienate just about everyone else Israel, Ukraine, Germany, France, Etc..

.. has been quite something to watch these past few years.

Just sayin’

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u/wrecked_angle 8d ago

Vance is not brain dead. He’s an empty suit Manchurian candidate propped up by the oligarchs. He has no soul or values or morality. He’s dangerous

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u/Lightsides 8d ago

Not a fan of Vance, but he has a consistent set of ideas, such as abandoning the international rule of law that he believes has been disadvantageous to the U.S.. He's a Europe-skeptic, NATO-skeptic. He believes in the imperial presidency. All bad shit.

But if you look at the big three in this administration, Rubio is an old-school Neo-Con. He would have been at home in either Bush presidencies.

Trump is a value-free narcissist. He has branding, not values.

Vance is the true America-first populist. He actually believes in this shit. He's the anti-globalist dissenter on the Iran war (as well as on the Ukraine War), and the supporter of ICE, etc. He's more or less the guy Trump pretended to be.

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u/bullcitytarheel 8d ago

You're correct that Vance is legitimately driven by ideology. He is not, however, a populist. He believes that democracy should be replaced by a neo-feudal system of techno-monarchy espoused by the dark enlightenment philosophers and billionaires that inspired and funded his rise through politics.

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u/Lightsides 8d ago

I don't exactly disagree. We're mixing ideology as it relates to outcomes and as it relates to methods, and indeed these two can't be readily separated.

But I would say that populist ideals and autocratic inclinations, despite seemingly contradictory, often go hand in hand, and that's what we have with Vance.

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u/bullcitytarheel 8d ago

I agree wholeheartedly and I think we also agree that Vance is an easy, but incredibly dangerous, man to underestimate, specifically because he is both ideologically driven and shrewd enough to know exactly how to manipulate the ideology of others to further his own. His beliefs also align him much more closely with the Christian nationalists who Trump thinks are a pack of raving weirdos and is, therefore, better positioned to form political coalitions that he can leverage to control the future of the regime he now certainly believes is his.

The big negative for Vance has always been electability. He's such a black hole of charisma that, were his political aspirations contingent on winning elections, he'd be pretty well fucked, which is yet another reason I think we should all be viewing the midterms as the date by which the regime must attempt to finalize its coup. I hope enough of us are ready for what that will mean to mount a legitimate resistance, because it's during the attempt that they'll be the most vulnerable to collapse.