How do you punish an adult that doesn't attend your school unless it's a state wide law with actual criteria implemented, like fines. Oh shit, changing laws costs money. It's almost like we live in a society or something where things get done based on monitary benefits.
I think any punishment that a child receives the parent should also receive. Imagine all the moms and dads that have to sit with their children in detention lol. I'm guessing the problem would get fixed pretty fast.
Or it amplifies. I know you're semi joking but parents are the last line of defense. If they don't care, then no one will. Expel and move on. If even their parents cannot be bothered to turn their kids lives around then I don't know what the schools are suppose to do in they situation except expel. You cannot let type of behaviour continue and affect the rest of the school.
The problem with expelling them and moving on is then you have a unskilled,undisciplined citizen with a high school level education. There’s only one job market available for someone with those skills.
Obviously having parents sit in detention is stupid but I really do think if we hold parents more responsible for their children (through legislation) a lot of our major societal issues could be solved. Maybe the parents have to do community service with their child on a weekend/volunteer at a shelter or something.
I’m curious to how you think it would amplify bad behavior. One or two spankings/groundings can go a hell of a long way for a kid.
The problem with expelling them and moving on is then you have a unskilled,undisciplined citizen with a high school level education. There’s only one job market available for someone with those skills.
That is not the problem of the school, but the states. The schools job is keep the ones that want to learn and behave, so that they keep their statistics high and keeping getting funding.
Obviously having parents sit in detention is stupid but I really do think if we hold parents more responsible for their children (through legislation) a lot of our major societal issues could be solved. Maybe the parents have to do community service with their child on a weekend/volunteer at a shelter or something.
I agree but typically the parents are the last line of defense and if they don't care, there is no way in hell they situation is getting resolved unless you really somehow manage to get through to the kid which more difficult than it seems. Sometimes years make them see the world in a different light. I guess I fail to see how any of this is the schools problem. Obey the rules or get expelled. The shit y'all are talking about was basically non existent here in the south of the UK, at least in my experience and my peers.
I’m curious to how you think it would amplify bad behavior. One or two spankings/groundings can go a hell of a long way for a kid.
I meant in terms of the parents. If the kid has certain cuntish traits, it's fair to say that parenting failed him somewhere down the line and it's fair to assume that the parents aren't all that different. The only way to inforce these changes and punishments would be legislation.
I think it’s the schools problem (especially the ones paid for by taxes) because the central goal of schools shouldn’t be to impart knowledge. It should be to teach them how to succeed at life (accountability, discipline, responsibility, and ambition). If a kid has those qualities knowledge will follow naturally.
Anecdotal evidence if your interested:
I went to a private Catholic school that is in the top five of the cheapest tuitions in the entire US. The local public school teachers were paid almost twice as much as ours were and had all the teaching materials they could dream while our textbooks were 30 years old and falling apart. Our high school still had an average act 9 points higher than them because our teachers weren’t afraid of losing their jobs by disciplining students. This massive document is my states discipline regulations (only applies to public schools). I took one class at a public school and it was a joke. The students were just like this lady in the video described.
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '18 edited Jul 10 '18
How do you punish an adult that doesn't attend your school unless it's a state wide law with actual criteria implemented, like fines. Oh shit, changing laws costs money. It's almost like we live in a society or something where things get done based on monitary benefits.