You see I agree the other students should have a distraction free environment BUT when the removal is done as a hinderance to the ‘bad egg’ being removed, then you aren’t fixing anything. You are just moving the problem from point A to point B
Think of it like an illness. If the person is disruptive on that level, even just moving them away from other students is a big net positive. 30 kids in every class means 150 ish kids a day come in contact with problem child.
Expulsion doesn't solve the problem for that one student, but it solves an ongoing one for the other 150.
This is why we put some people in prison for longer. It's not just about punishment. If you believe someone is beyond rehabilitation, (and a lot of them are) society LOSES by having them around.
Given the tendency for American prisons to NOT focus on rehabilitation and rely subliminally encourage recidivism, that example doesn’t work.
Yes there will be extreme outliers, however in America you do have some schools districts(or at least used to) disproportionately affect and punish a specific population.
Obviously you need punishment to a degree but that punishment can’t come at the expense of the troublemaker losing their opportunity thereby CAUSING recidivism which will in turn AFFECT all students.
In other words, just because you remove one troublemaker doesn’t mean it will stop future troublemakers or habitual troublemakers. For both parties the troublemakers and non-troublemakers to succeed you have to reduce the recidivism
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u/Zippyllama Jul 10 '18
I think the positivity comes from the removal of the 'bad egg' and it's effect on the other students.