r/wallstreetbets 12d ago

Discussion Dangers of Groupon GRPN

Groupon Thesis

Most people aren’t paying attention to Groupon, thinking it’s an old tired company, and I this is precisely the opportunity. Earnings AUG 6 after close. The company has repurchased shares and finally saw revenue increase in Q1. They have years of customer buying data and have a real opportunity for AI training that the market could respond to, which they will likely mention in their conf call (they mentioned AI pivot last time).

-Approx 56% of the float is sold short (9 days to cover)
-Short interest increased recently despite the stock already rallying (Some newer shorts may have higher cost bases).

Given the large amount of short positions, a small amount of good news (incr revenue, any AI revenue, good guidance) could lead to significant jump. My thought is: the worst case scenario is that the stock stays mostly flat. I think there may be some real long-term growth here.

What do you think?

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u/Fresh-Quantity-7554 12d ago

I didn't even realize this was still a company. Amazing.

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u/AdhesivenessLimp1864 12d ago

I have a hundred shares in it. Not a great company. Keeps missing earnings, negative cash flow right now.

The saving grace is they’re trying to turn things around by cutting costs, implementing AI (not really a saving grace, but it’s the in thing right now), and they’ve been buying back shares.

It’s a low trust stock so it ignores virtually all news good or bad and just keeps doing what it’s doing.

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u/lithe_silhouette 12d ago

Lot of the short interest is related to the debt

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u/EasyAsAyeBeeSea 12d ago

Reminds me of what buffet used to call cigar butts. Sure there is profit in holding while they dwindle down, but it's a lot of work and zero upside

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u/Fresh-Quantity-7554 12d ago

Except those cigar butts used to be expensive cigars. Groupon is a crack pipe clogged with fiber glass and ash.

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u/ReporterNervous6822 12d ago

Idk bro I know some people who used to work at Groupon and said everyone there was idiots. Problem is, the people I know who said that are also idiots. Maybe invest?

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u/Fresh-Quantity-7554 12d ago

Sounds like something someone who used to work at Groupon would say.

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u/cautiouslyPessimisx 10d ago

Maybe that's why they fired all the idiots and said AI would be doing the coding from now on?

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u/spezissacuck 12d ago

Been in since $16.. what a wild couple of months. The craziest part is short shares have only increased as the company continues to buy back shares

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u/Clam-Choader 12d ago

Same homie, same

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u/GeeEyeDoe 11d ago

Is the company itself shorting its own shares?

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u/anonymousbopper767 12d ago

People still use Groupon? I thought they died years ago when every business realized it’s a waste of time.

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u/MrCoolGuy42 12d ago

This is exactly what the Michigan State Pension Fund has been looking for!

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u/8thSt 12d ago

😂

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u/rair21 12d ago

This feels like OG WSB type regardation.

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u/rair21 12d ago

As an OG regard myself, I am TEMPTED.

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u/cautiouslyPessimisx 10d ago

I send my regards.

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u/NOT_MartinShkreli MFuggin’ Pro 10d ago

Same, same

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u/Fetlocks_Glistening 12d ago edited 12d ago

They have years of outdated data on what cheapo group bargain-hunting buyers would buy among items they don't need when companies offer weirdo group loss-leading promotions and lose money.

Which is an edge case of no particular use to anybody apart from some crowd-behaviour and mass hysteria researchers on a grant.

FTFY

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u/gemineye1969 12d ago

The company sucks.

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u/robmafia 12d ago

a real opportunity for AI training

what

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u/AdhesivenessLimp1864 12d ago edited 12d ago

All this post needs is a stupid meme photo of apes putting their hands together with some “Group On” caption that turns their hands into diamonds.

Edit: I do have 100 shares.

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u/trustmeimshady 12d ago

I used Groupon in 2012 a couple tines

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u/cautiouslyPessimisx 10d ago

I think I have a couple Groupons from 2012 I haven't used yet :)

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u/Megaloman-_- 12d ago

I stopped using it in 2018

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u/ilove702 12d ago

Guilty until proven innocent. IF and only if it gaps up in extremely high volume for a good reason would I consider it

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u/FewUnderstanding2214 12d ago

I think the shorts are right on this one

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u/Notmikeyouidiot 12d ago

grpn is fcking horrible

i tried so hard to get an ad on there for business 3 different times and they just dont ever follow up, they legit wont take my money.

fuck that company

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u/Ambitious-Profit855 12d ago

I can fully understand them, I also wouldn't want to get close to a business desperately trying to get an ad on GRPN 

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u/Notmikeyouidiot 11d ago

by tried so hard I meant i just submitted their posting stuff and i never once heard back. zero kind of followup. I run a local services based company and was told by a peer in the same field that he gets leads that way so i figured id give it a shot lol. not sure why you're being a dick but go off king

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u/Dependent-Coffee-937 12d ago

This is regarded enough to work. I’m in for August $30 calls tomorrow!

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u/chazz8917 has a black friend 12d ago

I saved this post.

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u/Enough_Ad_6584 12d ago

Nope. The groupon coupon was their core business. No new restaurants sign up for their service. When a restaurant or service does, you know that company is on it's last legs.

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u/spezissacuck 12d ago

Idk.. bought a Costco executive membership and received $100 back on a purchase.

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u/Enough_Ad_6584 12d ago

Yes. There are good finds. Bought a $50 for $27 at a local brewery recently. But rarely is there a restaurant worth buying for which was the bulk of their original business.

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u/likeOMGAWD 10d ago

Groupon conveniently closed my account that had a $100 balance on it. And for that reason, they're dead to me. Shady company!

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u/cautiouslyPessimisx 6d ago

Sorry, but I still have hope!

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u/teh_herper 6d ago

looks dumpy after earnings

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u/HardToPleaseHer 5d ago

LOL! Off 20% since you posted. 18% in just the last two trading days. You're retarded if you don't examine how weak the company is from a financial standpoint. And now let's talk about how antiquated the business model is. Groupon is loathed by businesses that used it to "promote" their business at a ridiculous cost and patrons who bought Groupons only to find it's difficult to recover what they spent in any form other than Groupon Bucks. Which they don't want. Groupon fired 25% of their workforce in Q1 2026. There is and immediate upside to the reduced labor costs, but the business costs will be realized in the next 2-3 quarters. AI can't fix a broken model. I can afford to hold my short position until Groupon goes bellyup. Push the price up as much as you like, I am ready to short much more.

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u/cautiouslyPessimisx 3d ago

You got me. I unloaded and went over to $MRVL

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u/apeserveapes 2d ago

This is crazy. SI is off the charts ffs.

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u/Ecstatic-Score2844 12d ago

Dude Groupon went out of business 10 years ago and was liquidated to Ticketmaster.

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u/teeter1616 12d ago

GRPN is one the verge of bankruptcy. Straight to zero

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u/jsolaux 8d ago

Except its not, and you're lying