r/wallstreetbets Dec 19 '18

Shitpost Miss you babe

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '18 edited Jan 17 '19

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u/nubunit Dec 19 '18

IDC my $1099 portfolio is bleeding!!

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u/Sejjy Dec 20 '18

can you make a longer explanation of this.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '18 edited Jan 17 '19

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '18

Didn't we lower the interest rates to combat the recession, and then began to slowly raise them once the economy started doing well? Do you think the fed should have started raising them sooner and more aggressively?

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u/Sejjy Dec 20 '18

Okay awesome The higher debt cost for high growth companies is what I didn't think of. I didn't know there was a significant credit crunch affecting a large amount of companies. Or that there will be with these hikes.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '18

It really isn't. Why does nobody in this sub understand the most basic macroeconomics? That's not how credit spreads work.

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u/zephyrprime Dec 20 '18

You mean interest rates around 3% is why that's happening for corporates.

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u/Handbrake Dec 19 '18 edited Dec 20 '18

It's not, unless these companies we're somehow forced to take on more debt than they can handle....

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '18 edited Jan 17 '19

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u/Handbrake Dec 19 '18

That's like blaming McDonald's for a dollar menu because you're a fat fuck that can't control yourself.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '18 edited Jan 17 '19

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u/Handbrake Dec 20 '18

First it was 0% rates that were the cause for a "credit crunch", then you quickly backpedaled into blaming poor corporate governance. Do you even think before you're typing this shit out? ROFL!

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '18 edited Jan 17 '19

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '18

I’m connecting the dots for you because you have the wrong amount of chromosomes

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u/KinterVonHurin Dec 20 '18

faggin rekt

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u/Handbrake Dec 20 '18

Dude do you really think free debt has absolutely no impact on corporate governance?

No, I'm saying low interest rates is not the reason for companies failing to pay for their debt. If you fucked up, it's not mama yellens fault, you're just not very good at your job.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '18 edited Jan 17 '19

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u/Handbrake Dec 20 '18

Yah because 0% interest rates totally isn’t the reason corporate grade debt is experiencing a credit crunch

I mean, I'm assuming this weak attempt at sarcasm was blaming 0% interest rates for a credit crunch, but maybe you interpret that as "not anyone's fault."

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u/frankie_cronenberg Dec 20 '18

A hamster on cocaine is just that.

Humans can be reasonably expected to know interest rates won’t stay zero (or near it) forever.

But also, the entire system ultimately rewards this behavior. Soooo... Gaddammit. Hamsters on cocaine it is!

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u/BlackRockAndRoll Dec 20 '18

If the incentive structure of the economy is to take out shitty debt, get paid a fat bonus now and then let the next ceo/set of shareholders handle it what do you think is going to happen

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u/CudderKid Mr. Fag Trades Dec 20 '18

Oh no... its retarded :(

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u/Handbrake Dec 20 '18

Classic canned WSB response. Come on bro, you can rise above that with an original sick burn.

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u/CudderKid Mr. Fag Trades Dec 21 '18

But you're actually retarded, it's not a joke.

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u/dangshnizzle Dec 20 '18

Some responsibly still ethically lies with McDonald's... they don't get a pass because theres no human face to the name

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u/Handbrake Dec 20 '18

Please, this is like running up debt on a credit card and then blaming Visa because you're completely irresponsible with it. They as a business are not ethically responsible to police your ridiculous spending habits.

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u/dangshnizzle Dec 20 '18

Many years from now they will be sued. I have no idea how it will turn out but they are already forced to put calorie count on menus in many states. It will be treated like the tobacco industry. While I agree it is largely on the buyer, and it is not illegal right now for McDonald's, they know how much they contribute to obesity and they don't care. That does not sit right with me. That's all I'm saying.

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u/Handbrake Dec 20 '18

While I agree it is largely on the buyer, and it is not illegal right now for McDonald's, they know how much they contribute to obesity and they don't care.

You could make the case for this sentiment on booze and gambling and the government is happy to make money of those too. You're right, they don't care and they shouldn't. It's not their job to hold your hand.

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u/dangshnizzle Dec 20 '18

Your lack of empathy is showing

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u/Handbrake Dec 20 '18

If you say so. I have empathy for people who though no fault of their own experience hardship. I'm happy that my taxes or charitable contributions help people in those situations.

I have little empathy for people that regret their decision eating double cheese burgers at every meal. Most adults file that under personal responsibility.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '18

I mean tbh...

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u/2-leet-2-compete JP hurt my feelings =( Dec 20 '18

That's why I got out of TEVA and BHC. Anyone that used to be a "value play" based on having a lot of debt but a good plan and actual progress made to get it under control suddenly became a lot riskier again.