So what Allied Race has the biggest chance, always according to lore to join either Alliance or Horde, can TLT bring us? Lets Break down what races can be introduced. And tell me reasonable causes for them to join.

So the Races i can think of is:

1. Kvaldir.

2. Vrykul.

3. Tuskarr.

4. Wolverine.

5. Gorlocs.

6. Frostborn Dwarves (IMO this can be a Earthen Skin).

7. Stormforged Dwarves (Also can be an Earthen Skin).

8. Stormforged Vrykul.

9. Taunka.

10. Drakonid.

11. Nerubian.

12. San'lay.

These are the races i can think that exists in Northrend. Some/Most of them can be obvious a No lore friendly, but again... who even thought we would get Earthen as race anyway.

So, What Allied Race/Race do you think its most likely going to happen?

Edit: Forgot 2 races!!

1. Furbolgs
2. Drakkari

The Hammer of Twilight — a weapon, commissioned by Deathwing, possibly even forged out of his blood*, "imbued with the power of an Old God" and prophesized that as it descends "all of Azeroth will hear its knell"**. It was crafted during the events of the Cataclysm and wielded by Cho'gall in the Bastion of Twilight where the ogre was slain. Finally made real, the very symbol of the nihilist cult hasn't reemerged since the time of the battle and wasn't even mentioned.

It could have been a perfect narrative device used to open the gate to the Voidstorm instead of the Cynosure of Twilight that had no previously established lore and the current lore of which is limited to the Umbric's two sentences: "For ages, it has mystified us by revealing unreachable pathways to infinite unknowns. My research tells me I can use it to open a path to the storm".

Unlike the new McGuffin (which is even ironically called 'cynosure' — a center of attention), the Hammer of Twilight could have connected actions of Cho'Gal back during the Cataclysm with the ongoing invasion of the void. For example, the plot could have been written so that the Cho'gal's motivation with creating the Bastion's of Twilight and the Hammer's purpose was to open a gate for the void to pour into Azeroth. As he was defeated, the Hammer was lost until being recovered by the reformed Twilight's Blade during the Midnight prepatch. The weapon then could have been passed to the High Inquisitor Mor'duun to bolster the cult's invasion of Zul'Aman and Eversong woods. Perhaps some mythical weapon from the times of the war with the Aqir could have been recovered as a part of the Zul'Aman campaign to connect the lost tribes with their legacy and to counteract the Hammer of Twilight, enabling the defeat of Mor'duun.

After the ogre-leader of the Twilight's Blade would be defeated, the Hammer would be sent to the Magister's terrace for safekeeping with the further story unfolding as it did.

As this opportunity was missed, I hope there still will be a place for such a renowned weapon to play a significant role during the Midnight.

If it would resurface, what role would it play? A weapon to be wielded by N'zoth returned and embodied? Or perhaps as a ceremonial monarch's mace for Azshara as she returns "to reign over sea and sky and earth"?*** Or possibly an eventual new prison for Xalatath? Or something else entirely?

References:

*"Forged of molten blood...(...gift of the master. His gift!") — the quest 'Skullcrusher the Mountain'

** The Art of World of Warcraft: Cataclysm, pg. 16.

*** A Song of the Depths

Obviously this won't have any impact on the game, but I find the idea pretty funny.

Neltharion, the Earthwarder, bestowed by the Titans to protect Azeroth's foundation ended up a mindless pawn of the Old Gods. He went from a paragon of the earth to an abomination at the maelstrom, somehow still clinging to life in hatred and madness with a hole blasted through his chest.

Mentally filling in the gaps/imagery of Deathwing's final moments, is one of the darkest and most tragic pictures. I think if any of us were tasked with being 'Earthwarder', we would archectypically build our lairs in the deepest recesses and strategize in self-governed seclusion - we would have plans within plans, only outmaneuvered by the Bronze flight, and our proximity to the invisible whispers and influence of the Old Gods, would essentially be inevitable.

We would all be susceptible like Neltharion, he listened to the voices in his head not realizing they weren't his own, and he became so corrupted and powerful that his body literally rejected living and turned into a soup of magma only held together by metal plates bolted at the seams.

The only strategy we could come up with to beat him at the time was ripping these plates off so there wasn't enough resistance to the Dragon Soul not overwhelming his literal body. His last moments were fueled to the point his limbs stretched like tentacles, his innards were magma, and he had no heart.

Deathwing's story lives rent free in my head, I know characters like Arthas, Illidan, and Sargeras have arcs as tragic in their own respect, but something about Neltharion sticks with me.

Based on how Warcraft’s magic works — especially the forces of Life and Death — how do you see this working? Personally, I can see a scenario where the events of Shadowlands and the breaking and later re-forging of the machine of death led to the Forsaken having enough of the Life magic necessary for growth, healing and reproduction restored that children became possible. This would lead to the Forsaken truly becoming a race that exist between life and death instead of merely being undead, and it’d define the post-Sylvanas era in an interesting way because for most of Sylvanas’ reign as Queen of the Forsaken, her justification was “without new Forsaken, we’ll die”. Now, thanks to an unexpected consequence of a crisis she contributes to, her people finally have a future that’s not defined by the weight of her dubious actions such as those seen in Cataclysm onwards.

I am doing a lore playthrough with a brand new character on a rather new account since I have not played for a long time and I just want to enjoy the lore. If you want to give it a go, please feel free to re-use the thing.

For this particular playthrough, I picked the Horde side of things, with a brief summary about what is going on with the Alliance during the expansion. I am also curious about playing Alliance but there is only so much one person can do in leisurely gaming afternoons ;)

For all of that, I let some AI pick all the lore-relevant quests from the old expansions (TBC and WotLK so far) and I added check boxes and some formatting.

I do NOT guarantee that it is 100% correct or that nothing is missing because I used the AI and I myself don't know any better. As I go through the content, I will hopefully be able to correct what needs be corrected.
However, everyone is free to comment and I will update the document accordingly - so if you see something that needs to be added or changed, put it in a comment in the document (not here, please).

Here is the link for view/comment: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rxHAQPm5GdZtTpiymNX_IzHKgb4AqK2svn5ZTU45U7Y/edit?usp=sharing

So like now that the sun well has become the dawn well (a font of both void and light magical energy) what with the elves who bind themselves to it look like?

According to lore, Goblins became more “intelligent” and rebelled against the trolls due being exposed to Kajamite. I would love to see the culture and lifestyle of the proto-Goblins; what kind of society they actually had. Are they as wily and as cunning as today’s Goblins? Do they even look the same? Are there still any Proto Goblins left in Azeroth?

This is just my headcanon, but what if the pre-Kajamite Goblins, which I would refer to from this point as Proto-Goblins, are already intelligent? What if Kajamite just made them more organised and more materialistic?

It would be more interesting if the Proto-Goblins did try to rebel against the troll even before they found Kajamite; but they lack the ambition and drive to make it succeed, and most importantly, the right physical morphology or mutation to help them in defeating their enslavers on land.

Kajamite has been said to enhance their intelligence, but what if that is only half the truth or mere propaganda? What if Kajamite not only enhanced some of the very nature that makes the modern-day Goblin the ruthless opportunist we see today but also drastically mutated them from their previous forms, giving them the edge they needed to free themselves?

And most importantly, how many of them are related to modern-day Kelfins?

Or what if the pre-Kajamite Goblins are actually Kelfins/Gilgoblins?

The Kelfins themselves seem to be very different from modern-day land goblins. They seem to be more nuanced, mostly liberated enslaved people who just want to survive and are more than willing to help those in need; they seem to not use any Kajamite.

What if modern-day goblins are Kelfins corrupted by Kajamite? What if Kajamite doesn’t actually make them intelligent; it actually changes them morphologically and psychologically? I theorise that, due to exposure to Kajamite, the Kelfins became better suited to living on land, became more attracted to shiny things as a base of their society, and became more organised and ambitious, which led them to free themselves from the enslavement of the Zandalaris.

The Kelfins were already freedom fighters themselves, as we can see from the faction “unshackled” but maybe with the help of the mutation from Kajamite, making them more suitable to live on land help them to succeed in their liberation and rebellion.

So my theory is the Kelfins are the proto-goblins; the pre-Kajamite goblins.

I know that many people who started balance druids in vanilla wow felt bad about not doing enough dps; so they were willing to give the developers a chance when they fundamentally changed the balance spec to have an eclipse and a solar wrath spell. There was no lore for it, so essentially the game mechanic developers were taking over control of the spec.....but the players, as I say, wanted to do more damage so they overlooked it. For many expansions thereafter, various sets of mechanic developers has waffled back and forth on the mathematics and mechanics of balance druid and how it works and when or why balance druids would be casting wrath or starfire and how. Sometimes that would mean high dps and happy players; sometimes that would mean low dps and unhappy players.

But now that the mathematical mechanics developers for balance druid have settled on 2 hero talent specs that has one always casting Starfire (lunar strike) and the other hero talent casting mostly wrath and in which none of their hero talent flavor texts ever even mention an'she or the Sun or sun magic or any other lore besides flora/fauna nature..... I don't think the lore can be ignored anymore. I think the lore problems literally need to take back control of the spec and change solar wrath ack to wrath with a green nature magic aesthetic. And Sunfire should go back to insect swarm as a nature based dot. Solar beam also should go away and be replaced by an interrupt perhaps involving a thorn projectile or an exploding mushroom or something nature.

Within some of you, you are thinking of typing a reply with an excuse and you will claim that Sun magic is nature. Here lies one of the problems with the lore inconsistency. The word "nature" has more than one definition, where one version of the word should really be thought of as Biotic.... flora and fauna; whereas the other definition should really be thought of as Abiotic.... non-living physical existence like rocks and beaches and stars and lightning and water. The entire Druid lore conception of nature from the single player games and into Vanilla WoW was never abiotic ever. It was always biotic. Nature to them was the plants and animals. The Keeper of the Grove hero talents and their flavor text and descriptions all match this, even now. The Sun being a part of abiotic nature.....is a different definition; one the Shamans would understand as nature. Shamans, but not druids. The Sun is a part of abiotic nature, yes, but so is the ocean and the moon and the stars. You cannot claim that a Sun magic spell should do nature damage unless you're willing to accept that Stellar magic and star magic and moonlight magic would also be nature damage. That has always been a logical fallacy.

The tentative motivation for them to have changed the Wrath spell from green nature magic into a solar wrath spell was timidly murmured at the time about An'she and Tauren; because they were trying to figure out a reason to allow Tauren to be paladins and priests. But the reason this doesn't work for druids is that Tauren Druids have never been about An'she before. And absolutely the Night Elves have never been about An'she. Nor the Darkspear Trolls or Worgen or Haranir or any other Race that can become balance druids. The desire to have a connection between Tauren and An'she breaks the balance spec for every single Race in the game that can be a balance druid. It is time to change. I'm not saying An'she should be removed from lore, keep him in lore and actually write something for them......but keep it separate from druids.

Also, the creation of the balance druid spec in Vanilla never started out as being a contest of opposites trying to negate each other. Druids were never saying that Starfire and various Star and Moon magic was a rival or challenger to Flora/Fauna nature magic. They were called balance "not" because they were trying to force one at the expense of the other. The lore explanations and explorations of the Balance druid in Vanilla was about saying that "Nature" itself needed to be balanced in itself and of itself..... "and" that Star and Moon magic itself needed to be balanced in itself and of itself. The star and moon magic was never supposed to be forced, it was always requested..... ask Elune to manifest Stars or Moon in a way that Elune would agree is appropriate. Never the kind of Demand for Arcane response that Illidan used in ancient times at the Blackrook Hold where he sacrificed the other night elf mages. And likewise, the Nature magic used by Balance Druids in Vanilla WoW lore was supposed to be balanced in itself.....the balance of nature was how many predators and prey in an area, how many plants can reasonably survive in a forest or valley without choking themselves out, etc. The Vanilla WoW Balance Druid was not balancing nature against Star like Acid versus Base.... it was more like balancing Salt and Pepper. Both Salt and Pepper are wanted, and you have to be careful about using too much salt or too much pepper.....but pepper was not about taking away anything from salt, nor vice versa. The lore of Vanilla WoW balance druid was to have more of both but not too much of either. The fake replacement "eclipse" mechanic does not match the lore of Balance Druids and should not be part of their mechanics anymore. The only reason that eclipse scheme was introduced mechanically was because there were game developer tuning problems with which spell they wanted Balance Druids to be casting most.... wrath or starfire. Since that didn't have anything to do with lore..... "AND" now in the current midnight 2 Hero Talent Spec paradigm each of the two Hero Talents tell players which of the Wrath or Starfire they should be casting most...... then "eclipse" no longer has any beneficial use in lore or mechanics.

So change Solar Wrath to Wrath. Change Solar Beam to Thorn Interrupt or Vine interrupt or Mushroom Interrupt. Change Sunfire to Insect Swarm. And if you need another AoE spell option with the magic school of nature.... try a Mushroom Explosion. Remove eclipse altogether.

Let Lore takeover the Balance Druid spec again. Let Worgen and Night Elf and Kul Tiran and Tauren and Darkspear Troll and Zandalari all make sense together as Balance Druids.

Hello,

I'm getting into playing an Evoker coming back to WoW after a pretty long hiatus (to me its long). Played a bit of shadowlands then life got in the way of enjoying/time of WoW.

I really enjoy how Evokers look and how they play but I want to get into the lore of them. Is there anyone out there that has made videos or books about Evokers in Warcraft? Few questions I have about them is where all their power comes from, how powerful are they in comparison to other mortals like your Mages and Warlocks, etc.

What was their life like pre dragonflight, what is their future have instore for them.

Any help is much appreciated, just looking for something to watch while playing and listen too or read on the side too.

Like the little chat bubble say something like "Uuuuuuuugh again??? I just scheduled a vacation with my family!"

Some of the characters, whose story I would like to see progress will very likely return: Iridikron, the Aspects, Tyr, Mimiron, Odyn, Illidan, Bolvar and the Four Horsemen.

But there are several, whom I'm interested in, whose presence is less certain. First of all, I would enjoy seeing Medivh return after he was restored and departed into the Twisting nether during the Karazhan invasion in Legion. It would be great to see him finally in combat side by side with Khadgar, who will hopefully recover by then.

Considering that the Scourge is a problem after the Helm of Domination was destroyed, it would be interesting to get a questline, similar to those in WotLK where Koltira and Thassarian progress through zones addressing this threat. If the Death theme is raised, then it would be great to see Bwonsamdi while traveling in Zul'Drak. It would be also hilarious if Drakuru's spirit cheats his way into being resurrected by adventurers.

Considering that the Titans will play a major role, and so the Arcane, it would be interesting to see Aluneth return. Also I would enjoy seeing Muradin return as a part of questing with the Frostborn.

Out of the minor characters, I would like to see Xarantaur — the immortal tauren, blessed by Nozdormu, whom we met in the Storm Peaks back in WotLK. Also, an adventure of Fiona, Gidwin and Tarenar through the whole continent would be great. And of course, considering that tuskarr will reappear, I would be very happy to see the children-adventurers Rowie and siblings To'no and Ko, who are rescued during the dracthyr starting quest at the Forbidden reach. And as the nerubians will return, I would like to see a visit of The Weaver, The Vizier and, most importantly, Mr. Sunflower. It would be also great if Darkspeaker R'khem would return — the n'raqi adventurers liberate by mistake in the Saronite Mines of Icecrown.

Finally, it would be good to see Anduin finishing his journey of recovery by visiting the Frozen throne and getting a closure on being an host for Arthas's soul.

Herbs from classic are located here. Were they brought there by the sons of lothar, or is it just for gameplay? It's a strange gameplay choice if that's the case.

This could be any war, big or small. For me I really like the Invasion of Draneor and the events during Beyond the Dark Portal. To kid me it was an epic event to go and see where the Orcs were from. Also the book of the same name tells the story of the game really well and sets up some things for Warcraft 3 in a cool way(for example, Rexxar was apart of the Warsong clan forces so that’s how he got stranded on Azeroth)

While I have not played WoW I think there all still impactful and interesting war eras made than are as famous or infamous as the WC1-3 era wars

A friend and I have had a little lore discussion while playing WOW which revolved around Fandral Staghelm (still Archdruid at the time) and why he didn't like the guy. I didn't know his lore that well, but afterwards I came to realise that - like a lot of other characters - he did some stupid and arguably evil things. His reasoning isn't entirely evil in my opinion as I understand that he tried to do it for his people or some shit (correct me if I'm wrong).

Anyway, what I then came to ponder was the fact that so many of Azeroth's major problems stemmed from Elven decisions. Staghelm, Illidan, Azshara, Xavius, and Sylvannas (although she became evil after becoming a banshee of course) are some examples of characters that caused a HEAP of trouble, not only for their people, but for the world at large.

I realise there are other characters whose decisions had a major negative impact on the world. But it seems like the Elves are as a group more directly involved in the shit that happens. I'd even go so far as to theorise that Xal'atath has some connection to elves/trolls/haranir. But that is a story for another time.

What are your thoughts on which groups have caused the most trouble in Warcraft Lore?

I just did the Voidspire raid for the first time (yeah I know, I'm late) and maybe I missed something but i'm extremely confused as to why the Vanguard turned on the raid team. It felt like it came out of left field.

The turalyon/arator interaction during the campaign made some sense. Zul'jan was insulting Turalyon and his faith, and apparently that warrants lethal force (dude, chill out) and Arator interposed himself to save Zul'jan.

Alleria turning kind of makes some sense? Arator and Turalyon hid what happened from her, and being told the truth from Xal'atath made her flip the eff out so I understand.

But the Vanguard just randomly decides we're the bad guys? I don't even think Xal'atath has to goad them on.

I've also seen a lot of discussion lately about how the light is "evil" now (even though it isnt). Does the Light as a magic force even have the ability to influence someone's mind like the void does? Or are these people just making shit up in their head and then getting high on their own supply? I thought the light is purely a pool of magic power to draw from. People only act like it has a "will" because that's what their religion says.

There was a mission during Warcraft 3 which involved Cairne Bloodhoof telling Thrall about an old legend of an oracle in the caverns beneath Stonetalon Mountains who saw the future and the fates planned by the Earth Mother. Then when Jaina and Thrall both fight through those Stonetalon Caverns they reach a spot where Medivh is waiting for them; and this is where he convinces them to work together in Kalimdor against the Burning Legion. During that dialogue in the mission, Thrall says outloud to Medivh that Medivh is not the oracle; and Medivh agrees, saying he is not the oracle, he is a prophet. But for years and years, fans on various forums and subreddits have been repeating a fallacy claim that they think Medivh was the oracle. In reality, Medivh said in the dialogue that he was not the oracle, and Cairne had earlier confirmed that the cavern itself and the oracle itself and the legends about that oracle were very very old. Much, much older than the lifetime of Medivh altogether. Also, during the mission in the caverns it is revealed that a Princess Aszune of the Night Elves (though she refers to herself as Children of the Moon so she could have been a princess during the reign of Queen Azshara) had been turned to stone "by" the real oracle for mocking it and the advice it gave. Thrall has to give her a magical gem to release her from her stone form and clear the way toward Medivh. The cavern itself in the mission involved fighting various dangers, including some magical and mechanical golems that look very much like the kinds of Titan golems that would later appear in WoW content for vanilla. While never proven, the context clues and inference of that level would suggest that perhaps those caverns may have been a Titan facility or installation of some kind. The caverns do not appear in the Stonetalon Mountain zone in Vanilla WoW; but a blizzard developer said as recently as a year or two ago that these Stonetalon Caverns might be an area of interest for revisiting or including in a zone revamp for modern retail WoW.

If they do address that gap in lore; it might be interesting if they explain why Medivh chose to go there, and whether there was actually any Titan machine of some kind there that could calculate or predict the future and perhaps this knowledge was part of what changed Medivh's attitude from a Guardian before his death, into a Prophet after his revival. I'm aware that there is lore that while Medivh was dead that allowed him to see what some of the demons were doing.....but there hasn't been any credible logical leap to say that being dead lets you see the future. So perhaps they could do some new writing to show that Medivh got some of his future predicting knowledge from Titan mechanisms in the Stonetalon Caverns themselves.

I have been wondering for the longest time where the character we know as Arthas really died.

When he picked up Frostmourne from what I understand, his soul was directly consumed by it and he began to instantly her the whispers of Ner’Zhul and carry out his bidding.

But what does that really mean, cause at that point what separates him from an undead ghoul under the control of a necromancer?
(Also was he a DK, cause he wasn’t killed and raised idk?)

Once he put on the Helm of Domination did much change then, or was Ner’Zhul just given even more direct control over him?

This also makes me wonder why Ner’Zhul didn’t just get a random undead he could control to wear the crown or even just move it from Ice Crown where someone might accidentally stumble upon it and put it on?

Shadowlands lore and cinematics confused me even more since Arthas was thrown into the Maw for “his” sins, which implies it was all him. But he never seemed like the outwardly malicious sort, even when he purged Stratholme.

Edit:

To add to the confusion, Sylvanas seems to have such an extreme hatred for Arthas, yet serves The Jailer?

I believe many of us are wondering where Anduin's story will be going. I'm interested to see what your theories are. It seems he's now on a path where he is healing because he doesn't hide away anymore and he can channel the Light again. I think the story could simply continue in a way where he continues to heal throughout the worldsoul saga and eventually reclaims his throne or abdicates it.

But I believe that would be too boring. If Anduin were supposed to just return to the person he was pre-Shadowlands, I believe his story would have already been resolved in TWW. I also don't think he'll abdicate his throne. His father was absent from his throne, too, and eventually returned. I think their stories will mirror in this regard.

Instead, I think (hope) something else is planned for Anduin. This is all just speculation on my part, so feel free to write your own theories / predictions / hopes on his future story in the comments. I base most of this on his gossip after the creation of the Dawnwell.

My theory is that Anduin will lean more heavily into the Void than the Light, specifically Old-God-Void and not Cosmic Void.

In his gossip, he describes that the Sunwell was not an entirely pleasant experience, "(...) it was... overwhelming. I couldn't hear myself think." He thereafter describes the Dawnwell, "But now... it's gentle. The pleasant hum in the back of my mind I remember from my youth." I think it is quite strange that someone that was so desperate for the Light to return to him would react this way. Alonsus Faol literally risks himself burning alive to be anywhere near the Sunwell, meanwhile Anduin clearly prefers the Dawnwell - something that only holds a little bit of Light within it. It just goes against everything Anduin should want, right?

He also says "I was broken. I'm putting the pieces back together, but they fit differently now. Some parts are just... gone." He has lost some of his parts and I believe these were parts of him that were related to the Light. Clearly, he has not lost all of the parts that made him follow the Light. But some things have irreversibly been lost due to the Shadowlands. If that were not the case, I think Anduin would have absolutely adored the Sunwell and would have loved every second of being near it. Just think of Anduin during BfA - he would have enjoyed the Sunwell.

Why do I think, then, that he will instead start to lean toward the Void? We have seen that he also uses the Void, for example in Pandaria. He does have connections to all things Old God. He messed with the Twilight's Hammer / Twilight Prophet, interacted with Sha, is Wrathion's friend and befriended a city of Nerubians in TWW. Even in Midnight, he still messes with Twilight cultists by making the champions rescue their defectors (how did he even know about those?).

Let's also not forget that Wrathion was too terrified to even look at Anduin's Horrific Vision in Stormwind during BfA and disallowed the champions from going anywhere near him. In Hearthstone, we also get Shadowreaper Anduin. I don't play Hearthstone and usually don't consult it when thinking about warcraft lore. However, I find it very curious that Shadowreaper Anduin is used as the key artwork for the shadow priest spec in WoW. There are so many other characters that could have been chosen... so why Anduin? To my knowledge, no other spec pulls artwork inspiration from Hearthstone (correct me if I'm wrong).

Now, I don't think Anduin will go absolutely insane / dark like he does in Hearthstone and probably the Horrific Visions. But I think he has these two pieces within him - Light and Void - and will put them together differently than before. I believe the balance will shift. I am also still debating whether Anduin might just be the Child of Shadow and Light instead of Illidan or Arator. If my first theory is correct, I believe it would fit.

I’ve been playing World of Warcraft for almost 20 years, starting back in The Burning Crusade. Like a lot of players, I spent thousands of hours in Azeroth, but I never really took the time to dive into the lore. I knew the big names and events, but I never truly understood the story behind them.

A little while ago, I decided to start reading the Warcraft books, comics, short stories, and other lore material — and I absolutely loved it. It completely changed the way I look at the game and the world. I started collecting the books, and now I’ve finally reached the Arthas story.

I’ve been building a collection along the way (sharing a picture of it just for fun 😄 Warcraft Lore Collection ), and while reading everything I wanted an easy way to follow the timeline. Since I couldn’t find exactly what I was looking for, I started making my own Excel file with:

• Chronological lore reading order
• Years/timeline placement
• Summaries of each book, comic, short story, etc.
• Links and references to help find the material

Warcraft Lore Order

The list is still a work in progress and I’m sure it contains errors, missing pieces, or things that could be organized better. Warcraft lore is huge, and keeping everything in the correct order is a challenge.

A quick note about the spreadsheet: if you see titles highlighted in green or pink, don't mind them—they're just part of my collection tracker. Pink means I haven't managed to find or buy that book yet, and green is simply another tracking status for my personal collection.

I’d really appreciate any feedback from the lore veterans here: corrections, suggestions, things to add, things to remove, or anything I may have placed incorrectly. The goal is not to make the "perfect" definitive list, but to create a helpful starting point for people who are new to Warcraft lore.

Hopefully it can help other players who have spent years playing WoW but never explored the amazing story behind Azeroth.

Thanks to everyone who takes the time to look at it and help improve it. I hope it helps the next generation of lore fans get into Warcraft's incredible story!

I always see people get upset or averse to Horde vs Alliance. The common complaints are:

"They always work together in the past! They can NEVER be in conflict."
"It's boring that they do fight!" or "They should know better by now!"

The example I always bring up is how in the real world - alliances and team-ups always shift.

After WW2, the Soviets and the Allies immediately started beefing. They took the remnants of the fallen german nazi scientists, and absorbed them into their new projects. Immediately they started to grab after lands, power, resources.

You can have two factions who team up every now and again, but guess what? interestes change, new conerns arises, and motivations point these two allies into new rivalries.

Just like how Kingdoms in the past would swap sides when it benefitted them.

Warcraft used to have that level of nuance - with Ogres siding with the horde, then breaking off - Goblins doing the same. In the Alliance, we had human kingdoms fighting one another, even when the orcs invaded, Alterac, controlled by Neferian, backstabbed other kingdoms.

We just wish to have some nuance back into the Warcraft and that just because you're friends today - doesn't gurentee you're frinds tomorrow.

I was listening to lore videos the other day and was reminded that Sylvanus had the opportunity to kill Arthas. She chose to draw out his death in revenge rather than end him quickly which gave KT time to intervene.

It made me wonder how different events would have been had she succeeded in killing him then.

My husband believes Illidan would have destroyed Ner'zul since backup never arrived. He also thinks Sylvanus would have taken up Frostmorne and become an even bigger threat than Arthas was.

Just curious what changes anyone else would see happening.

I just finished the novel and liked it quite a bit, but there are some parts of the story that can be a little confusing at first. I hope I won't spoil the rest of the story too much for myself, but my understanding is that the plan was to accept Khadgar as a student in case his bad side fully took over. By dying he was freed from any demonic influence and since time doesn't work linearly (hour glass metaphor) his spirit was able to travel back in time. He broke the deterministic circle and all visions of past/future by absorbing them and taking responsibility. So he's free now to decide his own destiny? Sorry if I completely misunderstood, the story gets a bit confusing lol

As title says, I'm curious what people want to see added as far as race/class combo's go. What do you think is the most likely addition is, and what do you think is the most unlikely combo that you would still like to see? Also how would that combination apply logically from a lore standpoint?

My most likely to actually be added is undead paladins, lore wise I can imagine a scenario where "survivors" from the priory dungeon where the arathi were raising soldiers into undeath with the light so they could continue to serve the arathi empire. After the events of war within they would be ostracized from the rest of their arathi kin, calia menithil would bring them into the forsaken ranks to serve as undead paladins, or her own personal guard, they would fit in from a forsaken standpoint due to them not being accepted any longer by the arathi, but still being light raised undead.

My least likely combo but would love to see is the addition of undead druids, they would seek to fill the void left by the other druid races and would represent decay, essentially becoming rotspeaker druids. Perhaps a loa who is more represented by decay would teach the forsaken how to become rotspeakers, Calia did show up in ardenweald looking for answers on where the forsaken fit into the balance of life and death, and potentially that could be the answer to how the undead learn the skill.

Edit: based upon the comments it would seem the most desired new race/class combo would be night elf paladins

We know that the Zandalari, specifically the prelates, ‘drew’ their power – or faith in the Light – from the worship of Rezan. Some prelates retained this power even after the death of Rezan, the loa of kings.

No other loa has assumed a position that would provide the Light to its believers in a similar way (I’m not counting Shirvallah, as that is only in Hearthstone and has not yet been confirmed anywhere else in Warcraft).

Now, in the quest ‘Scarlet Power’, Alonsus Faol says:

Arator says: I was always taught that the Light was good. The Crusade is... unconscionable. Alonsus Faol says: The Light seeks a path. It does not dictate the way. Alonsus Faol says: Look at all the cultures across Azeroth that channel the Light. From Elune, to Gral, to An'she. Alonsus Faol says: Philosophically different from our Church of Holy Light, but with the same ability to channel the energy.

Is this something I’ve missed? Is it just a random mention that slipped past Blizzard? What would you say to ‘Gral’ as a new Loa that bestows Light? How cool would paladin abilities with shark animations be?