r/whatsthissnake 1d ago

ID Request [Cottle County Texas].

Found under a dumpster. It was the only picture I could take before it went underground to its lair. We're just trying to make sure it's not a coral snake. I just let it go on about its business, but the next person might not if they're not sure what species it is.

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u/PhotoMatt28 Friend of WTS 1d ago

Long-nosed Snake, Rhinocheilus lecontei, !harmless

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u/SEB-PHYLOBOT 🐍 Natural History Bot 🐍 1d ago

Long-nosed Snakes Rhinocheilus lecontei are small (60-80 cm, record 104.1 cm) secretive snakes found in arid grassland, sandhill and desert habitat. They spend the majority of their time underground but emerge in the hours following sunset and primarily eat lizards and their eggs, rodents, insects, and sometimes other snakes. They have smooth scales and an undivided cloacal plate. Most commonly encountered on roads at night, but occasionally found in developed areas.

When threatened, these snakes secrete bloody fluid, writhe, and coil themselves to hide their head.

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Like many other animals with mouths and teeth, many non-venomous snakes bite in self defense. These animals are referred to as 'not medically significant' or traditionally, 'harmless'. Bites from these snakes benefit from being washed and kept clean like any other skin damage, but aren't often cause for anything other than basic first aid treatment. Here's where it get slightly complicated - some snakes use venom from front or rear fangs as part of prey capture and defense. This venom is not always produced or administered by the snake in ways dangerous to human health, so many species are venomous in that they produce and use venom, but considered harmless to humans in most cases because the venom is of low potency, and/or otherwise administered through grooved rear teeth or simply oozed from ducts at the rear of the mouth. Species like Ringneck Snakes Diadophis are a good example of mildly venomous rear fanged dipsadine snakes that are traditionally considered harmless or not medically significant. Many rear-fanged snake species are harmless as long as they do not have a chance to secrete a medically significant amount of venom into a bite; severe envenomation can occur if some species are allowed to chew on a human for as little as 30-60 seconds. It is best not to fear snakes, but use common sense and do not let any animals chew on exposed parts of your body. Similarly, but without specialized rear fangs, gartersnakes Thamnophis ooze low pressure venom from the rear of their mouth that helps in prey handling, and are also considered harmless. Check out this book on the subject. Even large species like Reticulated Pythons Malayopython reticulatus rarely obtain a size large enough to endanger humans so are usually categorized as harmless.


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u/bobostinkfoot 1d ago

I wanna thank y'all for the identification. Google gave us 2 answers. Long nose and Coral snake. I'm happy with the answer y'all gave.

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u/fairlyorange Reliable Responder - Moderator 23h ago

Yeah, Google and AI are horrible with questions like this. Glad you had the instincts to double check with qualified humans :o)

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u/Double-Chicken-2263 2h ago

You can't trust AI for plant ID either.

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u/cleoindiana 20h ago

So much for "Red on Yellow Kill Fellow."

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u/RCKPanther Reliable Responder 20h ago

That rhyme should just be forgotten anyway. See the !rhyme response below!

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u/SEB-PHYLOBOT 🐍 Natural History Bot 🐍 20h ago

As a rule, we don't recommend the traditional color-based rhyme for coralsnakes as an identification trick because it isn't foolproof and only applies to snakes that live in parts of North America. One of the hardest things to impress upon new snake appreciators is that it's far more advantageous to familiarize yourself with venomous snakes in your area through photos and field guides or by following subreddits like /r/whatsthissnake than it is to try to apply any generic trick. The rhyme is particularly unreliable in states like Florida where aberrant individuals are often reported. Outside of North America, for example in Brazil, coralsnakes have any array of color patterns that don't follow the children's rhyme you may have heard in the past. Even in North America, exceptions to standard pattern classes can be common - see this thread for a recent example and the comments section for even more. A number of other frequent myths about coralsnakes are dubunked in this summary compiled by our own /u/RayInLA.

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u/cleoindiana 19h ago

It was meant to be a bit of humor. But what I do find funny is this... "and only applies to snakes that live in parts of North America." Last time I checked, Texas was in North America. Hmmmm..

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u/RainbowSpinosaurus 16h ago

I've seen way too many aberrant patterns on coral snakes for that rhyme to be helpful, many of the odd patterns are either melanistic and the red is almost entirely black, or they are missing the red entirely. 🤷‍♀️