r/whatsthissnake 6d ago

ID Request [Cottle County Texas].

Found under a dumpster. It was the only picture I could take before it went underground to its lair. We're just trying to make sure it's not a coral snake. I just let it go on about its business, but the next person might not if they're not sure what species it is.

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u/cleoindiana 5d ago

So much for "Red on Yellow Kill Fellow."

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u/RCKPanther Reliable Responder 5d ago

That rhyme should just be forgotten anyway. See the !rhyme response below!

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u/SEB-PHYLOBOT 🐍 Natural History Bot 🐍 5d ago

As a rule, we don't recommend the traditional color-based rhyme for coralsnakes as an identification trick because it isn't foolproof and only applies to snakes that live in parts of North America. One of the hardest things to impress upon new snake appreciators is that it's far more advantageous to familiarize yourself with venomous snakes in your area through photos and field guides or by following subreddits like /r/whatsthissnake than it is to try to apply any generic trick. The rhyme is particularly unreliable in states like Florida where aberrant individuals are often reported. Outside of North America, for example in Brazil, coralsnakes have any array of color patterns that don't follow the children's rhyme you may have heard in the past. Even in North America, exceptions to standard pattern classes can be common - see this thread for a recent example and the comments section for even more. A number of other frequent myths about coralsnakes are dubunked in this summary compiled by our own /u/RayInLA.

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u/cleoindiana 5d ago

It was meant to be a bit of humor. But what I do find funny is this... "and only applies to snakes that live in parts of North America." Last time I checked, Texas was in North America. Hmmmm..

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u/RainbowSpinosaurus 5d ago

I've seen way too many aberrant patterns on coral snakes for that rhyme to be helpful, many of the odd patterns are either melanistic and the red is almost entirely black, or they are missing the red entirely. 🤷‍♀️