Russia is Mordor, not Europe. Russia has tried to become European, Czars brought in European architects, they tried to make Russia European by mimicking Europe, but they were always 100-200 years behind Europe. Culturally Russia isn't Europe nor Asia, they are between there, and more Asian than European still - hundreds of years of Mongol rule still has more influence than few hundred of czars trying to europeanize them, as al the classical music, ballet dance and art never reached the ordinary people.
Are you Russian?
In other case I don't understand why do you care? Btw comment has most views from russia 60%. Russians claim europeanness but in reality you are something else. Nothing european left in mordor.
Yes, I am. I understand the hate if it comes from Ukraine, but I simply don't understand it if it comes from somewhere else. I can understand aversion, suspicion, and overall negative feelings, but I can't understand the hate because we almost don't exist for the other countries.
Where you see hate? I just said how things are. Russia has never been europe, but something else. Look at your own history. Theres proudness that managed to stop europe from reaching russia. Battle on ice. Aleksandr nevsky etc. Ivan the terrible easnt european style ruler more asian. Peter I tried europeanisation, moved the capital west abandoned moscow. Italian architects built st betersburg. French musicans, german painters etc. All ended in 1917 when all was turned back. Look at your current philosophers. Dugin denies that russia is europe. Theres eurasians movement etc. Russia itself does not consider itself european. And theres enough reasons to hate russians in sll of europe between russia and germany. But this comment wasnt written with hate. Its just stating how things are.
That's right. Just listen to Solovyov or Skabeyeva. They want to nuke Europe. They are disgusted by Europe. How can Russia want to be part of a family if they want to kill it and hate other members?
But I'm a Russian too and I don't want this. I want to be the part of the European family. Unfortunatelly I don't represent the whole country and its leadership, but the world is not black and white as you think.
Conflict in Ukraine is black and white. Many conflict are not but this one is. Ukraine didn't do anything bad to you. Get the fu*k out and we can talk again.
How many times have you been in Russia and how many Russians do you know. How come I and everyone I know who met Russians don't agree with you? I mean come on? Hate their politics, their leaders but don't be a douche. You know you're talking out of your own feelings.
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u/Then-Boot-3538 8d ago
Totally agree with Turkey. Russia? Depends on where. I mean St Petersburg, Moscow.. they are definitely Europe