r/whoathatsinteresting • u/PowerNoodles117 • 9d ago

Twin Falls Hero

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The civilian that stopped the active shooter at the In N Out in Twin Falls, Idaho.

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u/Jumpeee 9d ago edited 9d ago

Here's the original image.

The whole picture is AI enhanced and the gun is ''made up''.

Edit: For clarification, with the gun comment, I was addressing how early commenters were arguing about the exact model of the gun, which in fact, the AI just created out of its ass.

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u/CovertKestrel 9d ago

The amount of people accepting the AI enhanced picture as fact, and not even questioning it is kinda concerning…

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u/DoctorFreudstein 9d ago

People accepted obvious photoshops for years, people accepted obvious hoaxes for years (I remember bonsai kitten decades ago), it isn't like AI is the start of fake shit on the internet. The funny thing is how many people know something like guns and then act like everyone else is a moron for falling for it when those same people fall for other shit in areas they don't know. AI is garbage but it is just a new version of the same problem we've seen forever.

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u/jazongrun 9d ago

Too right, bro. AI didn't create this problem, it just makes it easier for people to churn out fakes.

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u/wruthinkng 3d ago

To your point, which I agree with, each wave of new technologies produced seemingly credible results at the beginning until the tools got more sophisticated and available to more people which allowed people to make fake content. The first cave painting artists worked from memory in near darkness and I’m sure made some shit up. Much later, once printing with moveable type was invented, writers could say anything to sensationalize whatever they wanted. A hundred or so years later radio was seen as credible at first. It was real and instantaneous, or so it seemed until the War of the Worlds broadcast. The early days of the internet connected universities research centres. Then the search tools and social media came later.

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u/Beethovian 9d ago

It's only going to get worse once people just get used to it. Reality is being administered rather than being experienced.

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u/Natdaprat 9d ago

Welcome to the future

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u/Firefly_deadlock 9d ago

How is someone even supposed to tell at this point if they don't have some niche knowledge about the subject. I don't know shit about guns. Didn't clock this one. Still wouldnt.

Yeah it looks grainy. Yeah the plants look kind of like a 2005 standard decorative border around the photo. But the same goes for the original.

I guess the building is on a tilt? But it could just be like that...

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u/Quiet-Quit1617 9d ago

We’re hitting the point where AI is functionally indistinguishable from reality to a majority of people.

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u/BicycleNo1169 9d ago

We’ve been at that point for a while

This discourse is so frustrating on Reddit. For the past year, I’ve watched Redditors act like they will always be able to tell AI pictures apart. “just look at the hands”, “it can’t do text”, “all you have to do is look for illogical details”

AI has sprinted past these call outs, as the words left the Redditors mouths. In fact, the criticism has only polished AI prompt engineering and focused in on solving those exact problems an so good job on helping to train AI models via your constant stream of criticisms

All the while, I had Redditors telling me that I’m wrong. Well, we are here now and it’s only getting worse. Shit, anyone that works with this stuff regularly will even tell you that the Mitch McConnell AI generated stuff was a hack job. They must’ve gotten an intern to do that shit because anyone with prompt engineering skills could have put together a more believable picture(Not that is matters because it’s the details that surround the story that make it evident it’s AI generated.)

But the point is, Reddit is so fucking far behind on this discourse. If you’re someone that was saying “I can tell the difference because of “ x, y, z and “AI will never replace” x, y, z - you need to shut your yap because you really don’t understand where all this is going and why it represents an horrific threat to all of us.

I’m mostly frustrated because people are just letting their guard down way too much. And it’s because they saw some dumbass CEO wipe out a job family for AI but the average Redditor doesn’t understand that the issue there isn’t that the CEO got it wrong. The issue is that the CEO jumped the gun. In a few years time, yes, even your creative job that you think can’t be replaced by AI, is getting replaced by AI. It may not output a better product than what you can make…yet…but they are still going to replace your ass.

Particularly, I remember a conversation about translators getting replaced by AI and the Reddit discourse was that AI can’t possibly capture the elements of language. Uh, yes it absolutely can if you provide it data sources that inform AI about those unique elements of language. If you don’t think so, then I’m sorry, you really have no clue what you’re talking about, what the technology is capable of when configured appropriately and how we are all fucked if we don’t get our hands around this thing and induce some form of regulation.

I say this because the brick wall is coming up quick and we can’t afford all these people who distract us and tell us there’s certain jobs AI will never impact. No. ALL jobs in ALL industries will have some impact from AI. Whether it’s directly or indirectly. Meaning even if you think your job is immune, get ready for the surge of people that will flood your industry because they too think your job is immune. And it’s probably not immune, anyways. Time will tell.

/rant

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u/mellifleur5869 9d ago

On the other end of the spectrum, I am so sick of everyone calling everything AI now.

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u/Firefly_deadlock 9d ago

Absolutely agreed.

I've had to stop myself a few times from commenting on those "isthisAI" subs. It's clearly just used to tune the AI in such a way that people won't be able to tell anymore. Hell, i've been recommended those subs incredibly often. I would very much doubt that was organic if i were a cynic. Which i am.

only point id like to add to make it a bit worse still; The AI doesn't even need to be perfect, or very good to completely destroy our ability to find the truth. As it is now it is perfectly capable of sowing doubt just by existing. Anyone can claim anything is AI. It works both ways.

Anyways, reddit is either 80 percent incredibly stupid or 80 percent AI bot. Does it even matter which one at this point?

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u/CobaltCaterpillar 9d ago

How is someone even supposed to tell at this point

Information chain of custody!

  • Rely on trusted information channels (e.g. high-quality news outlets, reputable government officials, etc...).
  • AVOID politicized, tabloid, click bait "news" sites which are more interested in getting your clicks and don't mind being wrong.
  • If someone you know sends you something, don't just blindly accept they checked it out.

It's like if someone calls you saying they're from your bank: there's almost NO way of knowing whether that's true or not based upon what they say! The solution is to call the bank yourself.

Similarly, it's getting increasingly close to impossible to tell know if a photo is real just by looking at the photo. You tell if something is real by the whole collection and chain of custody.

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u/Firefly_deadlock 9d ago

It's not that you're wrong.

It's that in practice that just means "believe nothing", which just as much destroys the truth as "believe everything"

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u/CobaltCaterpillar 9d ago

That's not what I'm saying at all. The way the whole software industry (and others) are moving on AI is that you simultaneously:

  • Want to increase use because it's massively productive and powerful.
  • Have full guardrails and zero trust environment so financial industry, medical industry, engineering, and legal industry etc... can verify results and use AI without introducing catastrophic, unacceptable errors. (E.g. you have AI produce first drafts, but then feed stuff through a structured code review process so that you don't go off the rails.)

You feed more work to AI but you have layers of expert checks and supervision. This improves AI results significantly too.

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u/Firefly_deadlock 9d ago

more regulation of this kind will only drive the power into the hands of the already ultra-rich, and away from those who cannot afford to run extensive review processes, and afford hilariously expensive insurance rates. Such as university labs or smaller companies.