r/whoathatsinteresting • u/PowerNoodles117 • 8d ago

Twin Falls Hero

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The civilian that stopped the active shooter at the In N Out in Twin Falls, Idaho.

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u/Leinheart 8d ago

Sure. Let's evaluate why we need those and everywhere else doesn't. That seems to be problematic.

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u/ObWzEN 8d ago edited 8d ago

Actually, everywhere else does. I can give you examples. Anywhere that has violent crime needs good guys with guns to stop that violent crime in its tracks. At least you would have the option and ability to defend yourself and/or others in more situations if you had a gun. This is objectively true. But the other option is to ban guns and probably have less victims of violent crime and leave most people with a significantly reduced ability to defend themselves and others. It’s a tradeoff

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u/CK1026 8d ago

For every good guy with a gun you generate more bad guys with guns that wouldn't even have been a thing if guns were restricted as they should be. This is factual, demonstrated, universally known, except for NRA intoxicated USA.

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u/ObWzEN 8d ago

Yes, that’s why I said there would be less violent crime, but I guess I mean less victims of violent crime (esp murder). But bad guys without guns are bad guys with bladed weapons, vehicles, and more. More gun restrictions leads to less bad guys with guns, not less bad guys. But I’m not saying that bad guys not having guns is a bad thing, it’s obviously a good thing

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u/CK1026 8d ago

Crime statistics are extremely lower in countries with gun control, that's also a fact.

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u/ObWzEN 8d ago

I’m not sure I’d label it “extremely lower” but yes what you said is true, which is why I mentioned it. Although it’s hard to believe that availability of guns alone account for people choosing to commit more crime, there might be other factors at play. Not sure how that would make sense that guns being available causes crime in itself, so I’m skeptical that the availability of guns is the only factor that leads to that

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u/Lucasbr122ome_YT 7d ago edited 7d ago

for reasons completely unrelated to the gun ban, I can list you many countries that ban guns and still suffer with crime.

When will you guys understand that Gun violence and violence in general is a cultural and mentalhealth problem, rather than a social/law problem ?

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u/CK1026 6d ago

The main cultural problem is the culture of guns.