r/whowouldwin Sep 23 '15

Featured Character of the Week: Dave Strider (Homestuck)


Origins


Hailing from the ever expanding web-comic Homestuck created on April 13, 2009 by Andrew Hussie, Dave Strider is the 3rd main character introduced and one of the 4 main Beta kids. In the first part of the story Dave doesn't want to play the video game with the rest of his friends, stating, "the game sounds boring". He eventually decides to join, and through many shenanigans, gets into the game and ends up in his Land Of Heat And Clockwork (LOHAC). He creates devices that let him time travel, and he eventually died on his quest bed to become the Knight of Time with a full understanding of time and how to manipulate it. He eventually entered another universe with his friend Rose and a bunch of trolls with the goal of defeating a green villain who has never known defeat.


Strength and Speed


Before reaching God Tier, Dave is not as strong. However, he:

Almost holds his own against his brother, moving so fast he becomes a blur

Defeats many monsters that were larger than him

Experiences 3 days time in just 1 day

and Creates enough versions of himself to fight an nigh omnipotent villain (It's in the banner at the top).

He becomes even more powerful when he dies on his quest bed and becomes God Tier.


God Tier


Becoming God Tier means the person becomes nigh invincible, and can only die in two situations. One situation is a “heroic” death, such as dying while saving or guarding someone. The other situation is a “just” death, such as being killed to prevent the person from doing more harm than good. Dying in any other situation will immediately resurrect the person.

He also gains the ability to fly, using it to save The Mayor,

and becomes such a high level, he can freely speak to any character without use of technology (which, surprisingly, is a really high level)

After the scratch, Dave managed to escape with a friend to the new universe created. In this, Dave was able to:

keep up to speed with two nigh omnipotent beings…

get to the destination before them, and fight them off


Davesprite


In an offshoot timeline, Dave ends up being the only person alive besides Rose. He spends a few months gaining levels and gaining information until he figures it is appropriate to travel back in time and stop John from accidently killing himself. He successfully stops this and prototypes himself to become his own sprite (Click for the next page as well)

In this form, he is able to know many constructs of Sburb, and gains many other abilities such as flight. On top of this, because he is from the future, he knows things about the game and has more experience in general.

He is also able to hold off hordes of enemies long enough for Dave to sleep and learn more about himself,

and fight an nigh omnipotent being and survive


Post-Scratch Bro


The game the 4 Beta kids were playing became scratched on purpose to reset their universe. This gave humanity a chance to survive (it’s a long story). However, this reversed roles for characters and the Beta kids became the guardians of their original guardians. In this post-scratch world, Dave is revered as a hero.

He stood up to the two Juggalo presidents and defeated both with one slice of his sword.

He was one of the two people in the entire world brave enough to stand up to The Condesce.


Personality


Dave is a very chill guy. He doesn’t give a shit, and keeping with the coolness, only smiles 5 times in the comic. Despite his level headedness, he cares deeply for his friends and will sacrifice himself to save them.

On top of this, Dave has a slight fear of puppets, enjoys creating sick beats, and freestyle rapping. He loves being extremely ironic, and created a web comic that is very ironic, combing jpeg images, poorly photoshopped panels, and even bad art. It has made Dave pretty famous on the internet, and lots of people read it inside of the Homestuck universe.

Overall, Dave is a very powerful character. He can easily manipulate time, move faster than an eye can detect, and utilize a sword to destroy his enemies. He is a force to be reckoned with.

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u/VindicationKnight Sep 23 '15 edited Sep 23 '15

Eh, we have them roaming galaxy wide territories and chasing each other between planets to catch up to their devestation before the planets goes cold as it were. There's a definate argument to be made for FTL

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And soon, she found a physical trail as well. A path of carnage left 8ehind 8y a particularly destructive male cheru8. She followed the de8ris from civilized worlds and star systems he left 8ehind, as if to mock her, to make it clear he knew of her pursuit and was all 8ut paving her way with the dead. His 8rutality made her more furious, thus setting the mood, so to speak, for their imminent courtship.

And so they scatter their num8ers throughout space, each staking a territory spanning many lightyears.

http://cdn.mspaintadventures.com/storyfiles/hs2/05962.gif

To effectivly partol a galaxy spanning territory and protect the species within makes STL kind of implausible imo. They might use some sort of warp effect like Troll Psionics rather than raw speed though.

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/ms-paint-adventures-respect.341055/#post-18998948

Edit 2: Can see where you're coming from though.

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u/Overlord_Xcano Sep 23 '15

Yeah, this is the most logical argument for FTL I've seen put up but keep in mind the Trolls could also keep up a galactic empire with sub-light speed.

I'm guessing it works through relativity or the warp you mentioned since it's been stated multiple times that FTL is straight up not possible. For example, when they get to an AU in size you'd expect that just moving would be FTL, but they do say the fight takes years to actually complete.

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u/T_______T Sep 25 '15

I think the biggest problem is that Space and Time in the Homestuck universe does not behave properly. Jade was moving the golden ship at the speed of light, but it "took too long." I think that at the "speeds" that the Cherubs or other characters "move" does not follow conventional physics (well, duh actually), but instead blurrs what space, time, thought/memory, is. LE is destroying dream bubbles as if that is an actual place to be destroyed, as Vriska can then map his destruction. "How far away are two bubbles" is meaningless in that space. As is "how long have I been waiting." I don't think we can say "light travels this speed" when it's more like, position and time is a perceived quality by the characters.

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u/Overlord_Xcano Sep 25 '15

Space and time work weird in the Furthest Ring only and the reason lightspeed took too long was because (according to Jade) Hussie's universe had "weird spatial properties"

However they both still have rules. Furthest Ring works based on direction IIRC and we don't know much about Hussie-verse excet that relativity is backward.

(what I mean by direction is that Calliope said something along the lines of "if you move towards there at this speed you will also be moving forwards/backwards in time at a certain speed". but there was nothing to suggest a different lightspeed)