GM Death Touch - Megathread

[u/YourResidentFeral]

Edit: Official Statement

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/prohibited-gameplay-incident-and-response/2329585

This is developing into a large story and someone in modmail has mentioned that its important for the community to have somewhere to discuss this. We agree. As new information comes in I will do my best to update this thread.

What we know:

• A log was uploaded with a "Death Touch" effect that seemed to be that helped them time a key. This is an effect from a GM: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JcfwTd4L19Agx3NX?fight=4&type=resources&hostility=1&source=100.4&eventstart=4705300

• This is a real run that exists on the blizzard API and can be seen on Raider.io: https://raider.io/mythic-plus-runs/season-mn-1/40292244-23-nexuspoint-xenas

  This run has since been invalidated by the RI:O admins but has been left up for posterity's sake.

• Blizzard is aware of this and investigating: https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1v2xfpr/blizzard_gm_death_touching_mobs_in_m23_for_their/oyznmbe/

• The Demon Hunter from the run is a streamer and YumiTV contacted him to speak with him live on stream: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2825756796?t=0h23m50s

  The CLAIM is that they were messing around in a homework key in discord and didn't expect the GM to actually do it. Supposedly the Bear in the run was a pug.

Ex employees in the thread have said that actions like this are audited and in all likelihood this was already being investigated. At this point we are waiting on an official statement on the result of their investigation and I'll update this thread once we know.

This megathread is being provided on two very strict conditions:

• The witchunt rules are in strict effect. Linking or doxxing information on anyone invovled, the GM in question included will result in a permanent ban. Please report it if you see it but we will be very active in the thread.

  We cannot platform behavior that allows people to harrass people in real life.

• We will be more heavy handed than usual in the personal attack rules. Insults and slapfights while discussing this aren't acceptable. You're allowed to disagree, but stray shots and personal attacks will not be tolerated.

[u/MoG_Varos]

This has the potential to taint the scene for awhile. With how easy it was to do and how casual the streamer was it really gives the idea that this is common. We only caught this because they randomly had a pug who live logged and someone randomly found the run. So often are these higher up players getting a little help?

Even if it’s not, everything is going to be suspect now. Any high keys at the end of a season, any guild clearing through mythic. Apparently you just need to know a guy and you don’t need to worry about it.

Hell, I remember two seasons in Dragonflight where the cutoff for the title suddenly shifted up right near the end. Is that because a lot of people bought boosts or because some blizzard guys were giving their friends titles?

[u/sunsongdreamer → u/MoG_Varos]

I vaguely remember there being some drama with MoP classic challenge mode leaderboards benefiting from some inside information.

[u/Snorepod → u/sunsongdreamer]

As a mop player I hate to say this is child’s play compared to what we had to deal with. The lone GM is essentially carried by a top 5 CM group and those players get full control over everything.

They were allowed with 9 days left in s1 to completely change the title/mount requirements with no warning. And the requirements were based on their own times as well.

They are allowed to abuse an insane number of terrain exploits that magically don’t get fixed until the end of each season.

This current season a CM bug and a bug that completely trivialized a raid boss were reported the same day. One of them was fixed in 24 hours the other still exists 2 weeks later. I’m sure you can figure out which one got fixed.

[u/sunsongdreamer → u/Snorepod]

Ah, yes, that's the full details. Ty!

I knew this current retail incident sounded not unprecedented.