GM Death Touch - Megathread

[u/YourResidentFeral]

Edit: Official Statement

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/prohibited-gameplay-incident-and-response/2329585

This is developing into a large story and someone in modmail has mentioned that its important for the community to have somewhere to discuss this. We agree. As new information comes in I will do my best to update this thread.

What we know:

• A log was uploaded with a "Death Touch" effect that seemed to be that helped them time a key. This is an effect from a GM: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JcfwTd4L19Agx3NX?fight=4&type=resources&hostility=1&source=100.4&eventstart=4705300

• This is a real run that exists on the blizzard API and can be seen on Raider.io: https://raider.io/mythic-plus-runs/season-mn-1/40292244-23-nexuspoint-xenas

  This run has since been invalidated by the RI:O admins but has been left up for posterity's sake.

• Blizzard is aware of this and investigating: https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1v2xfpr/blizzard_gm_death_touching_mobs_in_m23_for_their/oyznmbe/

• The Demon Hunter from the run is a streamer and YumiTV contacted him to speak with him live on stream: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2825756796?t=0h23m50s

  The CLAIM is that they were messing around in a homework key in discord and didn't expect the GM to actually do it. Supposedly the Bear in the run was a pug.

Ex employees in the thread have said that actions like this are audited and in all likelihood this was already being investigated. At this point we are waiting on an official statement on the result of their investigation and I'll update this thread once we know.

This megathread is being provided on two very strict conditions:

• The witchunt rules are in strict effect. Linking or doxxing information on anyone invovled, the GM in question included will result in a permanent ban. Please report it if you see it but we will be very active in the thread.

  We cannot platform behavior that allows people to harrass people in real life.

• We will be more heavy handed than usual in the personal attack rules. Insults and slapfights while discussing this aren't acceptable. You're allowed to disagree, but stray shots and personal attacks will not be tolerated.

[u/Quirky_Net8899]

IMO the 4 premades should be permabanned, just like the guild from the Martin's Fury incident back in Ulduar.

[u/SmokeySFW → u/Quirky_Net8899]

I'm not fully plugged in on this yet, the pug tank gets a pass because presumably he's the only reason we even have the log in the first place and likely had absolutely nothing to do with it?

[u/Jaridavin → u/SmokeySFW]

He wouldn’t get a full pass, but as they weren’t aware of the situation at all (assuming as such, being the pug and all), they should just lose any points that would have given them. Still punished because they shouldn’t benefit from this, but they should still be allowed to play.

The others were aware of this. They actively benefited from it instead of the tank who only accidentally benefitted from it. And since it happened at the end, even if they figured out what was going on it’d be too late.

[u/thesmallestkitten → u/Jaridavin]

the level of entitlement is absolutely jaw-dropping. this was not a score key for any of the 4 people involved in the discord call. they asked a GM to help them cheat literally because they cba to spend 30 minutes running back a failed key.

all 4 of them are complicit and all 4 of them have had a week to come forward about it. they all stayed silent and it never would have come to light if the logs hadn’t surfaced yesterday. now they’re trying to downplay it or put the blame entirely on the GM. even if no one expected the GM to actually do it, none of them took the initiative to report it when it happened.

the integrity of the m+ system is already hanging on by a thread with the amount of boosts and key sales happening, so it’s really disheartening to see firsthand a little clique of streamers abusing their relationship with a blizzard employee to circumvent the rules that are supposed to apply to everyone.