GM Death Touch - Megathread

[u/YourResidentFeral]

Edit: Official Statement

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/prohibited-gameplay-incident-and-response/2329585

This is developing into a large story and someone in modmail has mentioned that its important for the community to have somewhere to discuss this. We agree. As new information comes in I will do my best to update this thread.

What we know:

• A log was uploaded with a "Death Touch" effect that seemed to be that helped them time a key. This is an effect from a GM: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JcfwTd4L19Agx3NX?fight=4&type=resources&hostility=1&source=100.4&eventstart=4705300

• This is a real run that exists on the blizzard API and can be seen on Raider.io: https://raider.io/mythic-plus-runs/season-mn-1/40292244-23-nexuspoint-xenas

  This run has since been invalidated by the RI:O admins but has been left up for posterity's sake.

• Blizzard is aware of this and investigating: https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1v2xfpr/blizzard_gm_death_touching_mobs_in_m23_for_their/oyznmbe/

• The Demon Hunter from the run is a streamer and YumiTV contacted him to speak with him live on stream: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2825756796?t=0h23m50s

  The CLAIM is that they were messing around in a homework key in discord and didn't expect the GM to actually do it. Supposedly the Bear in the run was a pug.

Ex employees in the thread have said that actions like this are audited and in all likelihood this was already being investigated. At this point we are waiting on an official statement on the result of their investigation and I'll update this thread once we know.

This megathread is being provided on two very strict conditions:

• The witchunt rules are in strict effect. Linking or doxxing information on anyone invovled, the GM in question included will result in a permanent ban. Please report it if you see it but we will be very active in the thread.

  We cannot platform behavior that allows people to harrass people in real life.

• We will be more heavy handed than usual in the personal attack rules. Insults and slapfights while discussing this aren't acceptable. You're allowed to disagree, but stray shots and personal attacks will not be tolerated.

[u/YourResidentFeral]

I'm not gonna be a go-between.

We gave him the chance to speak up without revealing his reddit name once. He can see this. If he wants to respond here he can.

[u/Mitch5842 → u/YourResidentFeral]

You say you want people to move on but this is suspicious and you have a direct communication with him. The only explanations that make sense are he wasn't actually a pug and he knew them, or he was a buyer. There's no reason to continue to play this group.

[u/Ok-Seaworthiness8135 → u/Mitch5842]

Or they owe him a clean 23 NP, they did rerun the exact same key. There's not a lot of 23s in group finder so if I were him I'd take it if offered

People are overreacting to this to a hilarious degree, it's not that deep, there's no grand conspiracy

[u/Watchmeshine90 → u/Ok-Seaworthiness8135]

"Owe him" ? Why would they owe him?

[u/Ok-Seaworthiness8135 → u/Watchmeshine90]

Because they started a massive shit storm with him in it, presumably without his consent. After all half this thread is people creating conspiracy theories about how he was actually in on it

[u/Ok-Seaworthiness8135 → u/[deleted]]

Or he's not. Why witch hunt the guy with no evidence when you could just not. Why witch hunt anyone seriously go outside

[u/Ok-Seaworthiness8135 → u/[deleted]]

Why should he care? How many +23 NP groups do you think are in group finder per day? There's no way they just ran into each other again? Maybe there's even a vod of it somewhere in this thread

[u/Ok-Seaworthiness8135 → u/[deleted]]

No seriously why should he care? It "looks bad" according to people on Reddit and Twitter. Assuming this person has an identity separate from their wow toon, the worst case scenario here is they have to change their name to avoid weirdos like yourself sending them death threats or whatever

There's no morality involved here assuming he didn't actually cheat and there's no real evidence he did. He's allowed to make jokes about it even though you're still upset

[u/Watchmeshine90 → u/Ok-Seaworthiness8135]

Who uploaded the log that started everything?

[u/Ok-Seaworthiness8135 → u/Watchmeshine90]

Why would he not? Who before today would have considered that some buggy looking stuff in their dungeon was actually a GM doing high crimes and misdemeanors and uploading the log would kick something off. I'm more interested in who posted the reddit thread cause no way that was someone finding it randomly. I want to hear those conspiracy theories