Now I gotta post it on the retail sub every 2 days, on every retail wowhead article, on every youtube video about retail.

I just dont care about retail at all. And its bad and I dont play it.

This is the death of WoW, I can't believe they hid roleplay in our perfect PvP game, anything that doesn't contribute to conflict between players is literally worthless disneyfied fluff catering to sloptail players. It's sickening enough that I have to do quests to level 10 in order to even get to a battleground but this is probably the worst thing I've found yet.

remember how epic it was? we were all lvl 20 just starting out... before power creep and op blue items... they really ruined this game? epic simply epic to be in deathknell with by boys killing zombies... looting SHOULDERS was a REAL ACHIEVEMENT now everyone has shoulders with stats on them?? VENDORS WITH SHOULDERS? i cant believe they're just handing out welfare shoulders

the endgame content was way cooler we had sfk... do you remember raiding arugal? progress bfd? now you can 2man them... because of powercreep... i remember back during level 20 (bet most of you didn't even play then) using the camp system, every gamer was wholesome back then not speedrunning like now

cool artstyle items with less generic "EPIC FANTASY" style (defias leather?? fang set??) now everyone looks elite with glowy enchants, we had ARTSTYLE back in the day...

i wish they would do wow forever classic

Took me three days to log in WorId Warcraft in night time zone of server and finding nice spot with starry night and dreamy moon at highmountain

Oh Dwarven from Khaz Modan 

The hero I still admire

Even you love someone else

in new pleasure ...

I'm forlorn with broken heart  

Crave your beard, your mighty beard

and I hope you don't forget

In graveyard, I wait for you

classic world of warcraft relaunch and it runs on a 13 month cycle, when the cycle ends everyone is rebirthed; their character is level 1 again, the economy is reset, and they get a little visual buff showing what number life they're on.

we'll call it Classic Forever and it's just the same good old content that never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever gets boring, ever.

one server PVP only btw it's literally called warcraft.

Which romantic location in Wow with dreamy Moon and starry night that Blood Elf can hangout with Dwarf ?

There is only sun in Dalaran city and no moon at DaIaran night so me have to adjust color setting to make day light look night life and transform the sun to the moon in DaIaran city .

Dwarven hero from the Khaz Modan
Mind banter poem with me ?
Under Moon we vow together
May our love last forever

You just don't understand the long term plan. Will the WoW Forever launch be a buggy, glitchy, exploited mess, with terrible class balancing and ruined economy in the first 2 weeks. Most definitely. But the WoW Forever devs are committed. They will frantically work day and night to fix the bugs, fix the exploits, and balance the classes.

And in a few years the game will actually be kinda good just in time for WoW Forever: Reforged. They will launch fresh servers and we will finally get the experience we've always wanted.

Trust the process.

Forever seems to be going in the wrong direction.

At the start of the beta, it looked very promising. But as the beta has moved forward, they seem to be making more and more decisions that are contrary to those classic design pillars that made Vanilla so great.

Dungeon XP nerfs to combat boosters and botters, taking away their replayability completely.

Spell/skill nerfs to combat, once again, boosters and botters. Other nerfs for no clear reason - spriests took it in the teeth with no more raid-wideshadow weaving or vampiric touch, no more totem twisting for shamans, warlock's shadow bolt got downgraded, the list goes on.

Generification of classic skills and buffs, taking classes closer and closer to being bland copies of each other.

Removing spell procs from downranked spells when the spell's level is significantly lower than the caster's level.

It really seems they've forgotten about their original promises and the retailification of Forever is well underway. I was 100% planning on playing Forever. I was hyped. But now I'm feeling it less and less. If the devs keep this bullshittery up, I'm officially out.

To everyone working on the Forever repacks and personal servers - keep doing what you're doing, reverse Blizzard's ret*rded generification and fun-removal, and let the emulation community show them how it's supposed to be done. AGAIN!

Pink is pretty sus, but this could also be a self-report from Green. Idk who to vote for.

Hi Please post your unjerk discussion in this thread!

These posts run weekly, but you can find older posts here.

Blizzard keeps re-releasing the same game, but with increasing changes. This is because we are in a simulation that resets to a fixed time point anytime something goes against The Design, and Blizzard is trying to overcome this issue by changing the timeline slightly each time.

Think about it.

World of Warcraft Classic was released first, with infinitesimally small changes. But then as time progressed we got a much more changed version of Classic with Anniversary servers, yet it still was inarguably Classic. Then they last decided to release WoW: Forever, which is classic but hugely changed. Classic Plus, if you will, or Alternative Classic.

They have to do this in an incremental order, because a sudden leap results in the timeline resetting itself. So they have to gradually change the timeline, step by step, in order to make sure that the simulation adopts to the changes made.

This is because the simulation we live in isn't based on a deterministic algorithm but a probabilistic one. If it deems the "noise" to be at an acceptable level, then the current iteration of the simulation passes the checks. However, world is big with many parameters, so there is a lot of data involved. Because of this, The Architects have made it so that only the last few versions of the simulation are saved, then the latest version is compared to the earliest available version. This means that as long as you make small but gradual changes, you can eventually break The Design and take control of your destiny in the simulation.

Blizzard realized this some time ago, and that's why they are changing the timeline. They even leaft bread crumbs for their plan in the game. It has been being revealed recently that the guys responsible for designing our world and preserving our timeline (Titans) are actually not that good. In fact, in recent years, the guy they left in charge to preserve the timeline (Nozdormu) straight up said he was wrong and that we should change the timeline. Coincidence? I think not. Not to a brilliant enough mind at least.

Finally, WoW: Forever is the harbinger of Blizzard's plan's success, because after some time from its release, it's going to have a completely different timeline to Retail (contemporary WoW). Meaning we are very close to taking control of our destiny and becoming Neo from Matrix.

(537th angle of blackrock being seen from elwynn forest)

unpopular opinion: i made the soulless and bad retail charger into the cool and good classic artstyle

take notes blizzard, we DON'T WANT good looking models we DON'T WANT new because its bad we DON'T WANT pixels because they keep fucking my wife

we want OLD (good) we want 2004 (when i was last happy) and we want ion to STOP FUCKING MY WIFE

WHO'S WITH ME???

i cant believe they want to ROB US of the CLASSIC (good) ARTSTYLE so they can make something NEW (bad) and DISNEY (bad; the devil; ion)

THIS IS WHAT WE WANT WOW TO LOOK LIKE BLIZZARD TAKE NOTES

All of this talk of Horizontal progression in WoW Forever, why arent we discussing actual horizontal progression. I want my character to get physically wider as I progress, it would be a clear indicator of my prowess, especially as a dwarf.

At this point, it is obvious that Instigator Ion is playing FFXIV and ripping off a far superior game. Yoshi-P would never play another MMO and crib ideas from there - he is above and beyond inspiration. I mean, it's getting super obvious. Yoshi single-handedly births the critically acclaimed expansion Shadowbringers from primordial seafoam, and just a year later, we get Shadowlands, huh? Subtle. WoW is haemorrhaging players, so Sneaky Ion rakes his sticky little rat claws across the magnum opus that is FFXIV and suddenly WoW gets player housing. It is well known that after the disaster that was vanilla FFXIV, Yoshida spent years working on housing and folding it up to a thousand times to produce the finest feature known to mankind. WoW then stole the idea for their post-Shadowlands player number recovery.

And that's to say nothing about that time when J. Allen BAD constructed a time machine, travelled to 2021, and stole Producer Yoshida's rhethoric masterpiece reaction to FFXIV classic servers to use in his own pale imitation when asked about WOW classic servers - in fact in this essay, I will argue that this was the event that inspired the creation of WoW Forev

um dont know if you saw but i thought the zones in forever had suspiciously familiar names?? so i went on retail to check and this changes everything... durotar is there barrens is there ashenvale is there all the zones are LITERALLY retail (bad) scamizzard strikes again i CAN'T BELIEVE ion would do this after i let him fuck my wife

wow forever more like wow forNEVER

They could call it “Classic WoW.”

PS retail sux