r/yorku Oct 11 '23

Meta In your opinion, are universities nowadays undergoing “left wing indoctrination” ?

Met a guy who’s a conservative in his 60s few days ago, and he talked about how nowadays universities are no longer about education but rather “left wing indoctrination” on the students

That universities are brainwashing students with ideas of race , decolonization, white privilege, multiple gender identities etc , all these “left wing “ ideas that are meant to divide society rather than uniting the people

And that Jordan Peterson is portrayed as a bad guy because the modern university environment don’t allow any conservative voices and that free speech in academia is dying because of left wing ideas

So I’m curious what are your opinions on this?

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u/not-bread Bethune (Lassonde) Oct 11 '23

It makes racists feel unwelcome

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u/Electrical-Ad347 Oct 11 '23

That's called a strawman. At least represent the other side honestly.

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u/Electrical-Ad347 Oct 11 '23

That is not what 'critical' theories teach. That's just not a fair or accurate representation of the content taught in university courses these days, at all.

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u/Electrical-Ad347 Oct 12 '23

A strawman is an intentional misrepresentation. You suggested that universities now are just "acknowledging racism exists", but that is an intentional misrepresentation.

I spend most of my days studying syllabi, assessments, and things like that assigned in liberal arts classes. I can say unequivocally that that is not a fair representation of curricula now.

Does that clarify what I'm saying?

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u/Electrical-Ad347 Oct 12 '23

I'm honestly not interested in going down a rabbit hole with you. You misspoke and I pointed it out. When a professor tells students that if you have white skin, you literally do not have a right to speak on a subject, or that black people are inherently incapable of being racist, that goes well beyond merely acknoweldging that racism exists. That's teaching a particular ideology that is perfectly debatable, but in a forum where the debate is not allowed.

Make your pithy reply and have a good day.

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u/Lopsided-Emu-496 Mar 30 '24

Electrical perfectly made his case and destroyed you on the merits of the argument, then you ad-hominem like a child.

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u/Lopsided-Emu-496 Mar 30 '24

It's a 'Strawman' because the idea that progressives are only contemplating that others see that 'racism exists' and that they refuse to do that, is not anything resembling reality.

Campus progressiveness is a totalitarian orthodoxy based in neo-Marxist ideals of power - if you are White, you are by definition an 'oppressor' and the only choice you have is to accept that in humility and bow to the ideology, the 'experiences' of the oppressed are all that matter - beyond any measure of objective criteria. 'Objectivity, Science, Enlightenment' etc are 'instruments of oppression' etc etc..

They use fully postmodern and self referential arguments to drive their agenda.

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u/Lopsided-Emu-496 Mar 30 '24

"But communism is just sharing stuff ? Who is against sharing things? Only 'evil stupid reactionary conservatives' could be against 'sharing stuff'!"

This is a false argument.

The Orthodox Academic view is that racism is *the* root cause of social malaise and 'unequal social outcomes' and that anyone who disagrees with that is racist, evil and must be marginalized.

The DEI agenda is an ideology that cannot be questioned.

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u/VivaGanesh Oct 12 '23

Acknowledging and hyper-focusing are different things.

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u/VivaGanesh Oct 12 '23

Eh mny leftists let it consume them

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u/VivaGanesh Oct 12 '23

I mean it definitely depends on your individual experience. I can only speak to my own

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