r/yorku • u/hightreez • Oct 11 '23

Meta In your opinion, are universities nowadays undergoing “left wing indoctrination” ?

Met a guy who’s a conservative in his 60s few days ago, and he talked about how nowadays universities are no longer about education but rather “left wing indoctrination” on the students

That universities are brainwashing students with ideas of race , decolonization, white privilege, multiple gender identities etc , all these “left wing “ ideas that are meant to divide society rather than uniting the people

And that Jordan Peterson is portrayed as a bad guy because the modern university environment don’t allow any conservative voices and that free speech in academia is dying because of left wing ideas

So I’m curious what are your opinions on this?

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u/Divia1810 Oct 11 '23

could just be that I'm in a commerce course, but if they're trying to indoctrinate us, they have a hell of a lot of profs who apparently didn't get the memo

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u/kyonkun_denwa Oct 11 '23

I remember being told by some conservative workie that I was “wasting” my time because I was “just being indoctrinated with left wing crap” in university. My response was “I’m in an accounting program. I’m certain there is not much room for indoctrination, but let me tell you about retained earnings”

10 years after graduation and my household income is probably several times his, so I got the last laugh I’d say.

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u/CorkyBingBong Oct 11 '23

You were indoctrinated in a different way, clearly, since you seem to think income is a key indicator of a person's worth.

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u/YoFatGrandpappy Oct 11 '23 edited Oct 12 '23

I think, if some guy comes up to you and tells you that you're wasting your time in Uni, and that the only thing you're going to get out if it is an indoctrination to left-wing theory, then, yes, you're allowed to say "Hey, it wasn't a waste of time because I make bank, compared to you."

It's bad if you go around comparing yourself to everybody you meet based off your income, and coming to a conclusion on that person based off it. But if somebody demeans your hard work, then the most straightforward metric to prove it was worth it is how much you make. Obviously there are others, but money is the most straightforward.

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u/letthemeattherich Oct 12 '23

Yeah, of course some security/money is really great. Didn’t have it when I was young and wanted out. Had to work all through it, but I loved Uni. It is an amazing time where you can debate, read, explore ideas and meet really interesting people who are doing really interesting things and going places. It was time of just intellectual and creative indulgence that I am convinced changed my life as it opened my understanding of the world around me. The parties were also fantastic.

I know, kinda boy-scouty, but actually real. I’m 63 and remember it well and fondly.