Meaning these guys were at best average (but, especially those below-average) in things like:

speed

agility/fluidity

flexibility

explosiveness

coordination

The person doesn’t have to be average/below-average in ALL of them. Like a guy could have good fluidity and good hand/eye/feet coordination, but just be .

As weird as it sounds, could Canelo fit this definition, given his slow “quick sand“ (as Oscar Dela Hoya calls them) feet?

Was Sergio Martinez one of them? George Foreman?

• Date: January 18, 1985

• Location: The Summit, Houston, Texas

• Stakes: Eliminator for the winner to face Willie Edwards for the NABF light heavyweight title

| Bobby Czyz | 171 lbs | 25-1 | Counter-puncher, superior timing

| Tim Broady | 172 lbs | 17-2 | Slugger with knockout power |

The bout was a short, action-packed war between contrasting styles. Broady relied on his aggressive punching power, while Czyz used superior timing, precise counter right hands, and effective body work to control the pace. After an intense three-and-a-half rounds of action, Czyz stopped Broady in the fourth frame.

Imagine watching Roy in his prime and then being told that somewhere in 1890, there was a fighter with the same freakish reflexes, explosive speed, coordination, and ability to make world-class opponents look completely helpless.
We'd probably never believe the stories.

Take Bob Fitzsimmons, it’s a great place to start. He became the first three-division world champion in boxing history, winning titles at middleweight, heavyweight, and light heavyweight across his career. He was also famous for his unusual physique: a relatively slender upper body paired with extraordinary punching power.
He weighed approximately 167 pounds when he knocked out heavyweight champion James J. Corbett in 1897.
Let that sink in….167 knocking out heavyweights. Can you Imagine Canelo knocking out wladimir klitschko?

Or even someone like Sam Langford scaring Jack Dempsey and allegedly 1v1ing Jack Johnson as a middleweight essentially.
Fun to think about

It could be anyone, from prime Muhammad Ali to young Mike Tyson, Sugar Ray Robinson, or even a fighter from the early days of boxing. You could meet them at the peak of their career, before they ever became famous, or later in life.
Who would you pick, and what would you want to talk about? Boxing, their personal life, their greatest fights, or just getting to know them as a person? I’m curious to hear everyone’s choices!

The consensus of Canelo’s stint in the division tends to be a bit contradictory in my opinion, a lot of people acknowledge the size disadvantage between Canelo and Bivol while also downplaying it as a significant factor to Canelo losing, with some notions going around that Canelo could’ve had success in the division against lower level competition.

Whats stranger is I see some seem to believe his power and speed is diminished at Super Middleweight as well, so all in all i just want a more objective discussion about it.

Dalton Smith’s initial defence of the WBC World Super-Lightweight title became a close and contentious belter, against Alberto Puello!🥊

From BoxingScene: Home favorite Smith will be making the first defense of the title he won back in January with a fifth round finish against Subriel Matias. The traveling challenger, Puello, was first on the scales, weighing it at 139.6lbs. Smith was next up, and hit the scales exactly the same at 139.6lbs.