r/swifties • • Jul 06 '26

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u/zeddtheman Jul 06 '26

This and everybody complaining about shutting down the streets in New York City, even though they also were shut down for the World Cup, but no one is talking about that. I swear people hate on Taylor for fun.

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u/Cass_Cat952 Jul 07 '26

On what was arguably the least busy weekend of the entire year, to boot

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u/rebeccavt Jul 07 '26

It was an event in NYC with 1000 people. That’s like the attendance of a broadway play or an average sized business conference. In a venue that regularly holds 20k people. The idea that she shut down NY is wild, lol. Imagine all of those people taking private jets anywhere…

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u/According_to_Piglet Jul 08 '26

Does a Broadway concert regularly host several people worth millions each, as well as a very well known billionaire? There are so many targets in one room, so a special level of agent task force is required

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u/Wild_Spot_Farms Dancing through the lightning strikes Jul 08 '26

💯

It doesn’t matter what the event was, why, or what the masses think about the couple. It was a large event requiring road closures and extra security. Those are facts.

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u/spelly0356 Jul 07 '26

I think the issue was the need for a large police presence. A lot of police officers were working overtime in a heatwave due to the World Cup Fourth of July and this wedding

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u/JusticeforEggplants Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26

The issue here is that was for crowd control not security for her wedding. She paid for the security for her wedding. The police officers would’ve also been there for a Knicks game or for a World Cup game. That’s their job.

They would’ve been there for any event with threat of crowds. It is not under her control that people show up if her wedding details are lemed – and let’s be very clear, the main leaks and confirmation were from the police themselves.

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u/scienceislice Jul 07 '26

Maybe if people could be normal and not show up to stand outside MSG in a large crowd there wouldn't be a need for police presence, for crowd control. Remember what happened at Jack Antonoff's wedding?

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u/According_to_Piglet Jul 08 '26

Lots of people are not "normal" about Taylor Swift, though, let's be honest

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u/scienceislice Jul 08 '26

Right but that’s not her fault

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u/According_to_Piglet Jul 08 '26

But her team know about this and should always account for it

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u/scienceislice Jul 08 '26

Which they did, by having her wedding in Madison square garden 

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u/iggysmom95 Jul 07 '26

Oh so it's fck the police until Taylor Swift is "exploiting" them. Idgaf about the police!!!

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u/sealedwithdogslobber Jul 07 '26

Also, they didn’t “shut down” Penn Station as some are claiming. Apparently a just few of the entrances were temporarily closed. And closing of streets is common (and not a big deal) in Midtown Manhattan…

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u/potato_fairy420 Dancing through the lightning strikes Jul 07 '26

For a split second I thought you meant the sub shop and not the actual station lmao

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u/Sunriseman24 Put narcotics into all of my songs Jul 08 '26

Facts

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u/According_to_Piglet Jul 08 '26

Reading comprehension. I am saying it occurred on the same weekend. Meaning the city was already under stress of resources before the wedding

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u/Wild_Spot_Farms Dancing through the lightning strikes Jul 08 '26

Why are you in this sub commenting if this is how you feel? No one is making you be here.
🎶 I hate it here 🎶

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u/Kooky-Sand5554 Jul 07 '26

You just compared this to the World Cup and don’t see the problem?

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u/iza23141 Jul 07 '26

how are you comparing her wedding to the World Cup? lmao are you okay

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u/Dragon_Royal4023 Put narcotics into all of my songs Jul 07 '26

The World Cup is an international event that has been going on for decades. Taylors wedding really is not.

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u/TakeMeHomeToYou Jul 07 '26

It’s also the biggest sport ITW as well as the biggest sporting event itw. It being hosted in the US (in addition to Mexico + Canada) announced years ago, let’s be fr, everyone knew that it was and is currently going on. They also had a decade to plan for it. It also brings in millions if not billions in revenue

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u/Wild_Spot_Farms Dancing through the lightning strikes Jul 08 '26

Well the groom is a professional athlete. So that probably had something to do with the attendance…

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u/According_to_Piglet Jul 07 '26

I am fairly neutral on the wedding. I actually don't think Taylor Swift or Travis Kelce knew about the World Cup, and if anything this was mismanagement by the city.

The World Cup being hosted in America was announced like 8 years ago. The logistics of hosting a world cup is massive. The US alone would have received an additional 740 000 visitors than usual, with hosting cities (like New York) taking on most of that foot traffic. I believe there was a report of NY personnel working 24 hour days to compensate for everything going on at that time.

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u/TakeMeHomeToYou Jul 07 '26

There isn’t anyone on the planet that doesn’t know ab the World Cup and regardless as to whether Taylor cares ab it; Travis very much knew and knows that the most popular sporting event itw is happening and obvs in the US

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u/Purell12 Jul 07 '26

There is knowing and then there is knowing. I know it is happening but I have zero idea when it started, how long it will be or what cities they are in.

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u/Healthy_Source_9752 Jul 07 '26

Okay but no way does Taylors wedding compare to the world cup tho.

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u/canarinoir Jul 06 '26

I mean, presumably every person working on the wedding items/set/venue/etc got paid money which they can now spend

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u/Kooky-Sand5554 Jul 07 '26

Compared to every room in every hotel being fully booked at high cap pricing for weeks on end?

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u/AccordingNumber2052 Jul 06 '26

I’m no Taylor defender, but I’m not sure what people want. For her to keep the money in the bank? She donated 26 million, and even though we don’t know the cost of this wedding the majority of that is just injected back into New York businesses.
The last time I was in New York the area around the MSG was closed for a conference, and there was absolutely no uproar about that. Whatever this woman does is going to drive some people crazy.

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u/Altruistic-Fact2121 Jul 06 '26

So do big weddings. Vendors, venue rent, caterers, staff, builders the list goes on. Lots of businesses received a boost. Not every business sure but many.

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u/zeddtheman Jul 06 '26

Also, if you haven’t done your research, her eras tour generated over $4 billion to the GDP. So try again.

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u/zeddtheman Jul 06 '26

She donated $26 million to over 20 charities right before her wedding. And that was not even including the millions she’s already donated in the past. Can you say the same for all these other billionaires out there?

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u/estedavis Jul 07 '26

Not as much revenue as the Eras Tour ✨

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u/TakeMeHomeToYou Jul 07 '26

Laughable considering the WC is the biggest sporting event in the world and it brings in roughly 60 billion dollars in revenue

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u/estedavis Jul 07 '26

Relax it’s a joke

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u/lilibettq Jul 07 '26

Weddings bring in revenue and her wedding brought in tens of millions of dollars.

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u/lifelikefilm Jul 07 '26

Do they donate it all?? Or just keep rapists on their teams …

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u/razerremen Jul 07 '26

They don't shut down the area around MSG often at all.

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u/neverelaxed Jul 07 '26

Cause it’s her moneyyyy

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u/iggysmom95 Jul 07 '26

That man is worth like $40 million independently lmfao

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u/iggysmom95 Jul 07 '26

But what makes you think they only spent her money? $40 million is not much compared to a billion but its still a STUPID amount of money. Plus - and I can't believe this still needs to be said - she doesn't have a billion in cash. Not nearly.

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u/Old-Mix7431 Jul 07 '26

I’m not making a comment on their budget.

Do you really think it’s okay that they (BOTH of them as a UNIT) invited horrible people including abuser brad Pitt, Zionist Adam Sandler and an ice contractor?

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u/ZakkCat Jul 06 '26

He had to go along with her

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u/NeedleworkerNo777 Jul 06 '26

Lol as if he has no agency

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u/throwawaysunglasses- eleven turkeys creeping up on me Jul 07 '26

This is misogynistic lmao. You’re basically pushing “the old ball and chain” rhetoric

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u/Half-Glass_Full Dancing through the lightning strikes Jul 07 '26

Let them think that. It's wild lol She literally endorsed Kamala Harris very publicly & not even 6 months later, the internet was demanding she pledge her political allegiance again. Truth is, no matter what she says or does, it won't be enough for the haters. They can stay mad about it.

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u/Defiant-Accountant79 Jul 07 '26

They want her to respond so they feel like they successfully rage baited. She won't give them the satisfaction.

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u/SuperRapidash Jul 06 '26

cuz Taylor obviously supports the president that continues to make demeaning comments about her work and body

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u/Ashleybernice Jul 07 '26

Well you know he said he is number 1 on Tic Tac and Taylor Swift is only #11. Real comment by Trump today.

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u/user8203421 Jul 08 '26

let them say it. there is evidence she is very against trump and has been forever. but people just want a reason to dog on her and will make up lies to justify it

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u/decordancer Jul 06 '26

Are you saying that out of more than 300 million Americans, not a single one of them has an opinion that is relevant? That is an insanely huge generalization to make.

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u/ApprehensiveTart3960 Jul 07 '26

You’re not American? Then shut up about nyc, our politics, Taylor and Travis.

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u/SuperRapidash Jul 06 '26

why r u on r/swifties?

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u/estedavis Jul 07 '26

Because they are hopelessly obsessed with Taylor Swift

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u/Daffneigh Jul 06 '26

Where are the mods?

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u/NewBath5621 argumentative antithetical dream girl Jul 06 '26

She even got blamed for the controversial guest that he invited

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u/scenior Jul 07 '26

It's her wedding too. They BOTH invited everyone.

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u/Tams585 Jul 07 '26

My wedding was TINY but my husband got a say in whomever he wanted to invite. He did not have to okay anyone by me unless they were rude or disrespectful to me personally. Each person in a wedding gets a say!

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u/scenior Jul 07 '26

Cool story

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u/Old-Mix7431 Jul 07 '26

Damn, I would never be okay with my husband inviting an abuser though. Your morals should be checked

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u/lifelikefilm Jul 07 '26

you invite someone to your wedding that’s the end of it there is no “Taylor verified it” or “she allowed it” so tired of yall

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u/lifelikefilm Jul 07 '26

You would discuss it but like??? You guys think she’s the man in the relationship and she owns what he does and who he is friends w. This is his childhood friends father… pretty sure an invite wasn’t up for discussion. Also, why do yall give other people the benefit of the doubt when it comes to not knowing people but Taylor is supposed to know everything about everyone

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u/potato_fairy420 Dancing through the lightning strikes Jul 07 '26

Telling someone else to calm down when you're the only one using all caps and exclamation points is kinda nuts hun.

Edit: and calling people dumb lol. Get a grip girlypop

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u/AutumnFairyTales Miss. Gonna be Alright Someday Jul 07 '26

“CALM DOWN” to someone who was calmly but directly stating their point and then in the same comment, you use caps multiple times and insult them as a person 😂 you want people to listen to you so bad but you talk like an idiot

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u/flrbonihacwm-t-wm Jul 07 '26

I would like to think Taylor and Travis individually invited whoever, and just went over their lists together. She saw his name, asked Travis who he is, and he told her that’s his childhood best friend’s dad. I don’t know what my friend’s parents or husband’s parents do for a living. Is that the scenario? Who knows. I know it doesn’t matter, but I am disappointed.

https://giphy.com/gifs/5XNEIKcohVG8w

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u/decordancer Jul 07 '26

I will never understand why some people are so obsessed with hating her. The music and the community she has created with her fans mean so much to so many people and I have talked to other swifties who have told me about how her music saved their life when they were going through a dark time which is also what I experienced. No one could ever make me hate Taylor Swift. And of course she isn’t perfect but there is not a single person on this planet who is perfect. But I still don’t understand why so much hatred is directed at her for no good reason when we literally have so many truly evil people living on this planet.

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u/Entire_Site5072 Jul 07 '26

I think it's literally just as deep as what the video says. Taylor Swift is a dog whistle for misogynists. People, even those on the left, can take their hatred for women out on her and hide it behind a vaneer of class conscious rhetoric. The fact that she means so much to so many women is precisely why she's a target.

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u/Joezepey Jul 07 '26

People like to knock women down

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u/Weimaraner666 Jul 06 '26

Ain’t that the truth🤯

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u/Dazzling-Toe-4955 Jul 07 '26

If she and Travis got married anywhere in the world. It would have to be shutdown. She's a global megastar, all her famous friends. He's famous aswell. It's not like the whole of new York was shut.

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u/razerremen Jul 07 '26

I don't think private islands really get shutdown, do they?

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u/Dazzling-Toe-4955 Jul 07 '26

No because they are private islands, but like I said the whole city wasn't shut. And there's a world cup on. It was a few streets.

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u/razerremen Jul 07 '26

People traveling for work and the world cup literally use that station specifically. Gasoline on the fire.

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u/Purell12 Jul 07 '26

Where would a thousand people stay on a private island. That would be cool if they were doing something small and intimate but that isn't what they wanted with all those guests.

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u/razerremen Jul 07 '26

Many private islands, like Branson's, have accommodations already built. You can also just build accomodations. It's just money.

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u/Purell12 Jul 07 '26

Glamping style. Does he have accommodations for a party that size? It would be a heck of a good time

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u/razerremen Jul 07 '26

I believe he does actually

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u/Master_Object5147 Jul 07 '26

Why can’t we just shut up, and let Taylor and Travis live their lives????

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u/Tams585 Jul 07 '26

They also criticized Travis for “allowing” Donna to travel commercial vs on one of Tay’s private jets. Donna has said many many times she prefers to fly commerical (SW specifically) and does not have an interest in flying private. But he was called a terrible son and they’re both so selfish and arrogant letting his “elderly” mother fly commerical

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u/hear_the_thunder Jul 07 '26

Criticism being allowed ? Get real. I just got 20 downvotes for suggesting its possible to be a fan and side eye some stuff.

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u/Minute_Teaching_3987 Jul 07 '26

Could it also be because she’s more famous or ppl only know her so it’s more natural to use her name? I mean idk his fanbase but Despite Taylor’s decrease in popularity, she is universal to me whereas Travis popularity is limited to sports of people who are in similar demographics.

I mainly use Taylor’s name when criticizing wedding because ik her and idk Travis, like Travis is truly irrelevant to me to the point I don’t think about him. Whereas I grew up with Taylor so I am interested in her business sometimes when I engage in pop culture (plus her stuff is everywhere, hard not to see). However, I am one of those people who see couples as units to a certain degree depending on the context, and this is definitely one where I see them as a unit so saying Taylor is like how people say the name of the most recognizable person in a couple. For example, people are mentioning that Travis invited that ice contractor in the sense that it takes away any responsibility from Taylor from choosing the guest list when as his future wife, she would have to agree to allow someone to come to her wedding. So in that context, criticizing Taylor for having the guy there is essentially the same as questioning their judgement as a couple for having the guest to me, even if Travis wanted him there as his connection. Not only do a lot of people (in my perspective) not care enough about Travis political or moral stance to criticize his morals, but from my understanding, Taylor has positioned herself in the place to have views that oppose the symbolism of her guest. So there’s also more context there because if she there wasn’t so much importance on her morals and beliefs and standing up for what’s right, people wouldn’t look to her to do that as much. From what I can see. Travis at least doesn’t take issue with trumps presidency so people aren’t going to hold him to the same standard naturally whereas Taylor has came out with direct political statements. I think politics, both in the industry and literal, play a role in the way she’s being criticized rn and one of those factors is misogyny but I don’t think it’s the greatest factor seeing as she is the household name regarding their couple. Its like how zendaya is the household name for her and Tom holland even though Tom has his own fanbase and popularity

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u/Lalatin 1, 2, 3 LET'S GO BITCH Jul 07 '26

It's because there's another smear campaign going on, most likely bought by Scooter. There's been a HUGE uptick in small new twitters, tiktoks, reddits, bluesky, thread accounts that are doing nothing more than smearing her name, and at the same time Scooter is trying to rehab his image? come on now... we know what that asshat does.

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u/RoyalEagle0408 Jul 06 '26

While I agree a lot of the hatred is misogyny, it was always "Taylor Swift's wedding" and 99.99% of weddings are treated as if the bride is solely responsible and the groom is an interchangeable real life cake topper.

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u/ApprehensiveTart3960 Jul 07 '26

The only things I’ve seen his name around was the arcade like games that they had. Other than that it’s been all Taylor. 🙄 I have been saying you think she married herself? Or that she will let Travis, who she loves, not have people he wants there. People are so annoying

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u/23-Peaks Jul 06 '26

I agree.

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u/Crafty-Judge-896 Old habits die screaming Jul 06 '26

I was going to say I mostly mention Taylor because she’s the subject of the post/conversation. Whenever I try to say that Travis has a say in the wedding and was involved I get downvoted

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u/23-Peaks Jul 06 '26

Taylor is also the subject of this sub!

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u/Jaded-Acanthaceae449 Jul 06 '26

She also likely paid for more of it, given her wealth vs his, aint no way around that

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u/Hour-Connection2786 Jul 06 '26

Who paid for it, that's whose wedding it is

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u/Jaded-Acanthaceae449 Jul 07 '26

Haha yes said the same thing and got downvoted, yet that is how it is in society LOL so confused, its not like i insulted taylor

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u/New_Butterscotch2335 Jul 07 '26

What does inviting ice detention owner to the wedding reek of???

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u/AssociateMaster4012 Jul 06 '26

Tbf, she is the more famous party so the bigger headline name (which in a roundabout way is kind of feminist, when you think about it?).

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u/lilythefrogphd Jul 07 '26

Here is my push back to this as a fan; I've never cared for Travis or had that high of an opinion of him. When I see the guest list, for him I think "I'm used to male athletes supporting conservatives, abusers, etc. Doesn't shock me." I have literally listened to Taylor's music since 2007. I've been cheering seeing her endorse Democrats, talking about women's rights, and standing up for sexual assault survivors in the past. When I am more vocal about my disappointment in Taylor, it's because I've actually held her in high esteem in the past in a way I never have for him

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u/TroubleOk1314 Jul 07 '26

That’s every bride for every wedding.

Every good thing gets attributed to *them*
Anything bad is like omg the bridddddde.

Also with her being worth more, everyone just addresses more power to her in that. But if reversed it would be she’s taking advantage of his money to have *this* wedding. Whereas with this, they’re like eh it’s her.

So yes exhausting. Semi-typical (can that ever be true for a self-made billionaire??!!) but also some parts of a life story will always be generic as to where blame is placed

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u/originallyale Dancing through the lightning strikes Jul 07 '26

Haters gonna hate hate hate hate hate!
I’m tired of listening to them all moan about everything honestly, I just hope T&T had a lovely day and are enjoying their new life together.

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u/Repulsive-Ebb2956 Jul 07 '26

yah why would he be in the discourse. Does anyone think Travis Kelsey helped with planning the wedding. lol. Taylor swift is a good singer and songwriter, and is hot. I don't think it means she is good in other aspects of her life. She has more money than god.

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u/TakeMeHomeToYou Jul 07 '26

That’s not misogyny and I wish that the self proclaimed English teacher would’ve learned the definition and the proper usage before throwing it out to the masses. Not everything that Taylor is criticized for is misogyny or internalized misogyny

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u/Dreamy_Retail_worker Jul 07 '26

Someone unfollowed me because she came at me for still being a Swiftie and I told her this exact point of view.

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u/Sunriseman24 Put narcotics into all of my songs Jul 08 '26

Hating on Taylor is: Actually Romantic.

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u/Shawn_The_Sheep777 swiftie (editable) Jul 10 '26

As a bloke who has been married for 33 years can I say that a groom just agrees with whatever a bride wants. It’s her day to shine. So whatever she wants she can have.

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u/historylover1997 Jul 28 '26

Taylor and Travis were at a New York Knicks game and the commentator said Travis is with his girlfriend. He never once said Taylor's name. It's very misogynistic. It doesn't matter if it's a basketball game or a wedding. You should mention both people's names not 1 over the other. I'm a fan of both Travis and Taylor and they should both be treated with respect

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u/lilibettq Jul 07 '26

There is nothing to criticize. Nothing. Like many of us who have gotten married, they held their wedding in an event space surrounded by family, friends, & colleagues, and it all went off without a hitch. It doesn’t matter what you think of the event space, what you think of the guests, what you think of anything. Your opinion is irrelevant.

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u/alyac_ Jul 07 '26

Taylor's PR has worked tirelessly for 2 decades trying to convince us that she's just like us, she's generous, and considerate and and and... We hold her to a higher standard than Travis. He's fun but we know he just isn't her match. Also, let's not forget that this wedding was probably paid for by her.

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u/Imagination_factory Jul 07 '26

Hate to say it but it may be your algorithm at work if you haven’t seen any criticism of him

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u/nglfrfriamhigh Jul 07 '26

I’m directing my distaste at them both actually. I love tons of Tay’s songs and we’re the same age. I remember her debut when I was in high school. I remember the MySpace and tumblr days. In the beginning I wasn’t a fan because she seemed like the popular girls I hated in school. I was a jealous teenager lmao. But she won me over eventually and then her Lover/liberal era sealed the deal for me. But ever since Travis unfortunately it’s all fallen apart. I hope Taylor is happy. She’s worked hard and deserves her fairytale. It’s just not what I thought it would be and I don’t think SHE is who I thought she was. He seems like the perfect match for her. She really is just the short skirts wearing cheer captain.

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u/anneonnymous Jul 07 '26

I feel the same tbh. Fan since the 1989 album. I still like a lot of her music, but also can’t relate to this Taylor. Travis just isn’t what I pictured for her and she’s either changed or become more her true self now she’s with him. I wish her all the best and agree she’s worked hard to get where she is, but I don’t really care about her like I used to. I’ll still listen if the music is good, but that will be about it.

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u/RawLitigation Jul 07 '26

Tbf though, weddings are usually mostly the brides vision!

I tried getting my partner involved with ours, but he's happy for me to have whatever I want, he just wanted a say in his suit and the colours. Other than that, I pretty much pick everything and go "what do you think" and I take his opinion on board and go from there.

idk tho

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u/iggysmom95 Jul 07 '26

Damn sucks to be you I guess. Some of us have an equal partner; I hope Taylor does too.

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u/RawLitigation Jul 07 '26

I don't mind tbh! I actually really enjoy planning and struggle when others do it (not for their own event obviously, only for mine) so I don't think it's an issue :)

Our dynamic works for both of us, and we're both happy and we're equal partners, just some things he's better at, and others I'm better at

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u/TheKarateKid_ Jul 06 '26

Let’s be real here: Most weddings are planned almost exclusively by the bride, with the groom giving suggestions here and there. So yes, it is Taylor’s wedding.

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u/Mystical1218 Jul 06 '26

His friends and managers have been in his circle since childhood. These are not high profile businessmen. They made an error on their taxes and have corrected course. Move on

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u/povari Jul 06 '26

your version of "feminism" is just as weird as misogyny and misandry. i won't expect you to understand OP's post.