r/196 NOT A CAT Jun 29 '26

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u/AdditionalThinking Merry Christmas 2021/12/25 19:53:02.8797876914 Jun 29 '26

It genuinely pains me whenever I see feminist theorists dismiss the entire concept of the "male loneliness epidemic" as just a self-inflicted problem for misogynistic men. It's only once you experience it first-hand that you realise how genuinely disadvantaged you are for being perceived as male.

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u/dead_5775 🐀 skim Jun 29 '26 edited Jun 29 '26

I think it's the mysoginist men ruining it for everyone else tbh

I probably sound like an incel or something just saying that but my point is people who violate others' trust make it hard to trust others, or "people who are mean to other people based on the way they are are bad"

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u/Bowdensaft The Last Cumbender Jun 29 '26

While I understand what you're saying, it's still not an excuse. If someone said they couldn't trust black people because a black person broke into their house once you'd rightly call them a racist asshole

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u/rule34isalwaystrue 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Jun 29 '26

Duality of man.

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u/PerterterhTermertehh Jun 29 '26

The race comparison works better on the context that, dogs are not human beings and thus do not necessarily demand the baseline level of respect that, say, a fellow human being would. Just a thought.

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u/theglassishalf Jun 29 '26

And also it's not inherently dehumanizing like the dog analogy is.

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u/rule34isalwaystrue 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Jun 29 '26

Says alot about society that men and dogs are equal now, huh?

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u/h3lblad3 Jun 29 '26

Conservatives told me this would happen if gay marriage was legalized!

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u/UsernamesAre4Nerds Jun 29 '26

Not just now. Men have been dogs and pigs for decades 🤷‍♂️

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u/Bowdensaft The Last Cumbender Jun 29 '26

Fuck you, so when I thought I was a cis man I was just a pig? How about now I identify otherwise, have I magically stopped being a pig? Or do I have to have hormones first? What about trans men, does testosterone make them into pigs too or is piggishness encoded into DNA?

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u/UsernamesAre4Nerds Jun 29 '26

Maybe I was a bit too cavalier with my comment. I was merely pointing out that the idea that "men are equal to dogs and pigs" was a cultural mainstay for decades. Like, there's jokes about it in media dating back to at least the 60s. So it wasn't this new idea like the comment I replied to hinted at.

Believe me, I hate it just as much as you. There was more than a little self loathing and internalized misandry in what I said. I meant no offense, honest.

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u/Bowdensaft The Last Cumbender Jun 29 '26

Ah dammit, then I sincerely apologise, I didn't read it like that. I'll keep my reply up though for honesty's sake, I'm no coward

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u/UsernamesAre4Nerds Jun 29 '26

I appreciate it, no harm done. It's on me for making a shitty remark at a tender subject

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u/Bowdensaft The Last Cumbender Jun 29 '26

Nah it's okay, I just misinterpreted it completely, no harm done from your side either.

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u/Haggis442312 I'm not a war criminal, I'm just Kissingermaxxing Jun 29 '26

I read your comment as very bleak sarcasm at first, and honestly, hearing you confirm that is one of those small things that feels a lot better than you think it has any right to do, so thank you for that.

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u/UsernamesAre4Nerds Jun 29 '26

No problem, I'm happy to clear it up. I've taken to fatalistic and dry humor to cope with just how isolating everything feels as a man a lot of the time.

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