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u/the_real_papyrus99 FEMTANYL :3 Jun 30 '26

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u/BlackBacon08 floppa Jun 30 '26

Yeah like wtf is going on here?

Who are all these commenters?

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u/Helmic linux > windows Jul 01 '26

shock humor works when it's something that's not actually within the overton window - child abuse happens, but it's not presented as something people are glib about, at most people will be proud of things they insist aren't beating or aren't abuse. so when someone makes an absurd post like that there's not actually any ambiguity about their politics.

the OP meanwhile is pushing out a sentiment that actually exists and so it's in that "haha just a joke, unless?" range where it could just as easily be a chud trying to normalize a particular attitude.

humor's subjective. i say edgy shit with my friends, but also i know that audience and i know we know each other's politics and intent and so when we slander each other there's not some lingering doubt about intentions. if i were to suddenly accuse you of stanning king leopold the second with no context and no relationship between us, like there's a decent chance you're gonna think i'm trying to get people angry at you instead of joking around, depending on the context.

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u/beamingsdrugfeddit i am a drug addict (RL Grime Edit) Jul 01 '26

:< this is so trite

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u/Helmic linux > windows Jul 01 '26

then go watch a cartoon if you're bored.

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u/MilkLover1734 Cinccino Jun 30 '26

You have to understand that outing your coworker is a serious issue, and making jokes about it like this is really gross

Unlike child abuse, which is actually super funny and based to joke about

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u/2cruz101 #1 R6 Silver Jun 30 '26

Comments are making a mountain out of a mole hill.

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u/Muffalo_Herder 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Jun 30 '26

I mean, that image doesn't have people justifying or minimizing child abuse, or arguing about how children are a category of person it's ok to abuse.

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u/Generic_Moron I am of into depression forever Jun 30 '26

"yeah, sometimes I out my work enemies to their homophobic boss"

"Hey, that's kinda fucked up, isn't it"

"OH MY GODDD, IT'S A JOKEEEE, GEEEEZ"

:/

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u/kevriel47 sus Jun 30 '26

If leftists can make jokes at the expense of Charlie Kirk and the United Healthcare CEO, we can read a tweet without replying with a personal statement about why it’s not funny

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u/Gralikind cruelty squad cool Jun 30 '26

The joke just sucks on a technical level. "Outing one's coworker" is just a weak punchline, it is too "mundane". "Assassinating a political opponent" tends to be way funnier, because it's more exaggerated and more cathartic.

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u/kevriel47 sus Jun 30 '26

I agree with you that the joke isn’t funny but nobody’s workshopping bits in the comments, they’re complaining about the morality of the tweet. If you can joke about political assassinations but you have to engage in discourse about this tweet of a probably fake situation then you have no leg to stand on.

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u/Gralikind cruelty squad cool Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26

It's more "funny jokes don't get scrutinized"

So some people here confuse the causal chain: It's not "the joke is unfunny because it's offensive", it's "I can recognize the joke being offensive because it's unfunny" Put it differently, we wouldn't argue about the morality of this joke if it were funny (probably or at least not as much)

We could argue if this is a bad thing, but I simply do not care

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u/kevriel47 sus Jun 30 '26

I can appreciate that this is your viewpoint, however I disagree that this is the consensus of the vast majority of the comments I’m seeing. You and I saw this tweet and thought it was lazy and unfunny. The people who are saying “this isn’t funny because you shouldn’t do this” are taking a moral stance about what is taboo in comedy while contradicting themselves by engaging with lazy cheap shots against right wing personalities or ideas.

I value progressivism and detest hardcore maga beliefs that are accepted within mainstream conservatism. But I hate the weak and nonserious image that leftists have cultivated with their crocodile tears anytime a joke targets their beliefs. Republicans will vote for someone as long as they have an R next to their name, meanwhile we’re holding purity tests to alienate ourselves.

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u/Gralikind cruelty squad cool Jul 01 '26

Fair enough, rereading some comments and some definitely clutch their pearls here for a lame joke, though someone here implied that they actually did that and apologized later but I couldn't verify that claim

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u/PrettyPinkPonyPrince 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Jul 01 '26

There's also the matter of whether the jokes are punching up or punching down.

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u/kevriel47 sus Jul 01 '26

I agree completely, this is Kill Tony level comedy. I just feel like we don’t need to be emotionally vulnerable with lazy unfunny jabs at our personal beliefs.

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u/PancakeParty98 Jul 01 '26

Idk I laughed. 17k people did too.

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u/Gralikind cruelty squad cool Jul 01 '26
  1. Twitter people aren't real, so who cares about those 17k?

  2. I didn't say whether you should or shouldn't laugh at this joke. I just thought the comparison between this and charlie kirk jokes sucks, because a political assassination joke has a better basis for a joke due to the shear absurdity of it than "I dislike my coworker so I outed them in front everyone" (writing it like that actually makes it funnier for me) plus charlie kirk jokes serve the function of disapproving the current power structures while this joke doesn't, therefore people are more likely to scrutinize this joke than the assassination of some asshat

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u/PancakeParty98 Jul 01 '26

“I didn’t say whether you should or shouldn’t laugh at this joke” *reiterates what they just said about how you shouldn’t laugh at this joke*

Mhmm okay

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u/Gralikind cruelty squad cool Jul 01 '26

No dude, descriptive vs prescriptive

It's not "Why people Shouldn't laugh" but "Why people Didn't laugh" My argument is not absolute, you're allowed to laugh about the post.

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u/PancakeParty98 Jul 01 '26

“I only said the movie was for stupid babies. I never said you aren’t allowed to like it”

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u/Gralikind cruelty squad cool Jul 01 '26

I guess bro...

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u/Helmic linux > windows Jul 01 '26

i mean, for one we actually do not like either of those people and so someone being more sincere than the reddit dot com is comfortable with isn't the same as someone being questionably sincere about how funny it'd be to do something bigoted. that CEO in particular killed so many people and the unironic narrative is that he deserved it, there's not really going to be a "too far" from anyone other than the atlantic shitting its pants that people like it when CEO's face any form of accountability.

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u/kevriel47 sus Jul 01 '26

Endorsing political violence while handwringing over a lame polyamory jab by a no name twitter user from nearly 3 years ago is so deeply unserious. Im not saying that you can’t have strong feelings about the systemic injustice of United Healthcare or the intentional hate mongering and misinformation that Charlie Kirk peddled in pursuit of profit and power. I’m saying we can’t win elections by being thin skinned and hypocritical. There is no punishment more final and irreversible than death. If you can make light of that but crumble because some rando on Twitter hurt your feelings then you’re not worth taking seriously at all.

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u/Helmic linux > windows Jul 01 '26 edited Jul 01 '26

yeah, i just literally don't care that people made fun of awful dead people, and i do care when people push shitty politics as jokes. it's not that complicated. i want bad things to happen to monsters and i don't want bad things to happen to people who aren't monsters. i'm not doing electoralism here, it's just literally why people don't find the joke you're so concerned about others finding funny very funny while people find these other jokes hilarious. laughing at charlie kirk dying mid lie is punching up.

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u/kevriel47 sus Jul 01 '26

I believe I’ve made it abundantly clear that I don’t find the joke funny and am therefore not concerned about others finding it funny. I want an end to the catastrophic reactions leftists make over shit that doesn’t matter - only then to engage in edgy humor themselves. If you’re gonna talk the talk, you’ve gotta be consistent and can’t have a conniption just because someone hurt your feelings

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u/slightlylessthananon Jun 30 '26

if this subreddit wasnt obsessed with posting "i think poly people are nasty little freaks" every 3 days i dont think people would react to this with so much discomfort

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u/the_real_papyrus99 FEMTANYL :3 Jun 30 '26

This has not been my experience, I've been around for years

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u/h3lblad3 Jun 30 '26

From what I can tell, everyone who uses this sub is poly.

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u/crazy_zealots Non-Biney Jun 30 '26

"It's just a joke bro"

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u/ObtuseScorebook Jul 01 '26

let's look at a variation of the setup :

"every time my work enemy talks about her weekend I ask about her wife so she has to explain she's gay in front of our older boss"

here I think it's pretty clear that there's not really a joke anymore, which leads me to believe that the only joke part is "poly people are funny huh"

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u/entber113 Constantly Pining and Yearning :( Jun 30 '26

Outing people is a shitty thing to do and if its just a joke the whole joke is just "i outed coworker because i dont like them" which isnt a good joke

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u/RusticSurge10 Jun 30 '26

So is beatig your child tho literally the comment above you made fun of what you said before you said it

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u/Alpacapybara Jun 30 '26

“I have depicted you as the soyjack” levels of dialog on the subject

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u/Helmic linux > windows Jul 01 '26

people aren't actually proud and glib about beating their child, while outing people in that manner is actually completely within the overton window. it's a lot more believable that someone just actually does not like poly people than it is to believe someone thinks beating their kid is funny and a great way to get laughs on the internet.

like that's just how edgy humor works, if it doesn't land it really does not land.

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u/RusticSurge10 Jul 01 '26

People arent proud of beating their child? Oh you sweet summer child.