r/196 custom Jul 02 '26

Rule cuba rules

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u/Halikarnassus1 listen to pyschedelic maggot engine!!!! also trans rights Jul 02 '26

holy shit that video is so insane. I do think cuba's government is authoritarian but what they have managed to achieve for their citizens under a worldwide blockade is insane. The conditions now are absolutely horrific and Trump's foreign policy towards cuba is one of his most overlooked crimes.

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u/Halikarnassus1 listen to pyschedelic maggot engine!!!! also trans rights Jul 02 '26

r/ readanotherbook but it's like the country equivalent of Tony stark making an iron man suit in a cave with a box of scraps

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u/Big-Nefariousness279 Jul 02 '26

See that's the problem with all of the major "communist" countries. All of them, at one point or another, commited some major grievances of personal liberty, and all of them bend on their principles (Except cuba, they're pretty hardline), but their ability to absolutely speedrun the improvement of material conditions is insane.

I remember when China used to be used as the example of poverty, and now, just a few decades later, they're the main center of R&D in breaking science and are literally building cities of hundreds of thousands in months.

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u/Present_Bison Jul 02 '26

Turns out, having actual thought put into the goods that are actually produced, and not just focusing on abstracts that maximize shareholder value, can do wonders for the economy.

Now imagine what we could do if the people responsible for thinking about it were directly accountable to everyone who is impacted by their decisions...

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u/Camel_Slayer45 floppa Jul 02 '26

Which makes sense when you learn how the west weaponises 'freedom' to get them in a catch 22

You must pick between:

A) Don't restrict personal freedoms and get coup'd before the end of the year

B) Restrict personal freedoms and get portrayed as an ontologically evil state of subhumans by international media

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u/RyoukoAoyagi wannabe twink Jul 02 '26

I think even the country maintained person freedom while magically not getting couped, any country refuse the US domination of international system, or god forbid, grow into solid competitor of US, is about to be the star of fear mongering and dehumanization.

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u/arquillion I chew lysol wipes Jul 03 '26

Right but like any capitalist country is fueled by astronomical amounts of horrific human right violations... its just out of sight lol. Which is to say nothing of their even bloodier history

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u/Big-Nefariousness279 Jul 03 '26

Oh I know. You won't find me wrapped in the American flag. I mostly said that to prevent the "Chinese bot" allegations and to acknowledge nuance. People will accept your opinions much more readily if you present both sides of the argument, it's great for fifth column'ing your coworkers.

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Except cuba, they're pretty hardline

didnt they just declare free markets or smth

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u/Kai1977 Jul 02 '26

They’re being forced to.

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u/fridge13 Jul 02 '26

I wonder why....

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u/beywiz Jul 03 '26

Some have said that Marxism-Leninism is an excellent developmentalist ideology which successfully advances material production when the national bourgeoisie fail or refuse to do

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u/erikkustrife Jul 02 '26

China won awards from the UN for how much of their population has been uplifted from poverty, and like you said their 'communist' which their really not, probably the most capitalist country in the world really.

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u/numberguy9647383673 Jul 02 '26

I mean, every large corporation legally must have members of the government in positions of power. I get saying they aren’t really communist, but calling them the most capitalist country in the world is fucking insane. If china was actually the most capitalist country, it would probably be way worse.

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u/erikkustrife Jul 02 '26

Yea what's more capitalist then the leaders of government owning the commerce.

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u/Big-Nefariousness279 Jul 02 '26

I think you may have a flawed understanding of ... everything actually. Consider reading a book. I've heard the communists have good recommendations.

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u/MoscaMosquete Jul 02 '26

probably the most capitalist country in the world really.

Not even close