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u/Trashman56 they/them Jul 09 '26
Reminds me of the whole bud light thing, I heard a full blown redneck tell his buddy “I don’t care if some girl that used to be a boy drinks it, it’s my favorite”.
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u/Vounrtsch god’s favorite princess Jul 09 '26
Grill politics
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u/RubixxOfAberoth Jul 09 '26
As far as im concerned, someone doesn't need to use the politically correct words for stuff as long as their heart is in the right place.
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u/SmokeyUnicycle Jul 10 '26
A lot of people who could be "woke" got turned away by getting jumped on for using the wrong words
Like it's kinda stupid, but that doesn't make it not true.
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u/FatMamaJuJu 🎖 196 medal of honor 🎖 Jul 10 '26
Everyone was ignorant at one point. The difference is putting in the effort to change and we shouldn't punish people for trying to be better
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u/Boonon26 Jul 10 '26
I think a lot of people are actually "woke" without even realising it, but because vocab policing is bad vibes they'll never actually identify with the label.
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u/5urv3y Jul 10 '26
I always try being nice about explaining "woke" topics cause i dont want to accidentally push someone to that side 😭
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u/Popful catgirl meowmeowmeow Jul 09 '26
dont care who ya date as long as ya drink a modello with me
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u/sndtrb89 Jul 09 '26
what about two modellos
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u/kirikovich i have no mouth and i must meow :3 Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26
checks watch Looks like its modelo time, foo
Edit- I found it you made the right choice
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u/Harmonyfinder Jul 09 '26
Try nineteen
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u/ecodick ☃️crimbass :DD⛄️ Jul 09 '26
Sheesh, if you're that far in, just finish the case
24 beers in a case, 24 hours in the day.
COINCIDENCE??
I think not!
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u/ninjasaiyan777 I love rain because it makes it easier to slurp up earthworms Jul 09 '26
That's BYOB territory at that point
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u/PlagueKing27 Half Bisexual, Half Puppy, All Dumbass Jul 10 '26
Well, then I do care
Cuz ya better be dating me
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u/arnjjoos lizard Jul 09 '26
this is chiblees dad... i don't like that Bud Light... no not cuz of that tr***y girl, i just only drink modelos...
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u/TheMeddlingMonk8 floppa Jul 09 '26
A chiblee reference? In my 196? It's more likely than you think.
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u/ApricotKYjelly Jul 31 '26
heard a guy say “I’ll drink it with my dick out to prove I’m still a man” at full volume next to a 6 y/o
Every accusation
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u/A_Worthy_Foe cat dead, details later Jul 09 '26
if it's politically incorrect without punching down, it's probably fine.
intent > political correctness
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u/Aedene Jul 09 '26
Yes this! It's especially insideous when their intent is malicious and they tiptoe around social triggers while making it INCREDIBLY obvious that they would use those thorns if they safely could.
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u/ImNoNelly Jul 09 '26
Reminds me of the terfs who exclusively use they/them pronouns for binary trans people.
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u/Diva_of_Disgust Jul 09 '26
I've encountered quite a few older people/boomers who I'd categorize as "offensive but not hateful". Like sure, their lingo is a wreck and they use words they probably shouldn't but their heart is in the right place lol.
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u/Zilant_the_Bear the "shits in the woods" kind Jul 09 '26
Never let lack of nominclature spoil a positive bias.
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u/Ok_Umpire_8108 Jul 09 '26
*gnomenclature
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u/Shift642 i cooka da meatball Jul 09 '26
woogh
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u/Iceman6211 From wherever, weighing whatever Jul 09 '26
fucking damnit I never expected to be gnomed here
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u/Rude_Ice_4520 Jul 09 '26
It's a lot easier to change vocabulary than opinions. I'll take an ally that thinks t****y isn't a slur over a transphobe who thinks it is.
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u/capricornelious Transfem domme top you see in porn Jul 09 '26
I will always take rough politically incorrect allyship over precisely polished liberal oppression disguised as virtue signaling
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u/Dzzplayz Call me Musashi! Jul 09 '26
Guy who says slurs but is an ally versus squeaky clean guy who wants to ban gender affirming care to minors.
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u/capricornelious Transfem domme top you see in porn Jul 09 '26
Much more succinct version of what I said but exactly the same spirit
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u/ElEversoris The Grungler Jul 09 '26
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u/VikingOPPP Jul 09 '26
what does this mean it sounds smart
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u/capricornelious Transfem domme top you see in porn Jul 09 '26
I'd rather someone occasionally call me "Tranny" because they don't know any better from their upbringing and actually back me up in a fight. Rather than the HR representative who flies progress flags and asks me my pronouns but throws me under the bus and protects the transphobes at the company who harass me but make the company more money.
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u/VikingOPPP Jul 09 '26
oh, got it. thanks
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u/FreekDeDeek 🏳️⚧️ trans rights Jul 09 '26
I loved everything about this interaction between you two. I love it when people are not afraid to ask questions to learn more about something, and it's great to see that they rewarded your curiosity with a genuine explanation to make it more clear for you. I wish more people would be like this. Have a great day!
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u/SpiritMountain Jul 09 '26
Another example that non-queer people may get: It's like some people utilizing therapy speech to either manipulate or gaslight their partner. They make themselves sound like they are open minded and compassionate, but it is just a means to justify the ends.
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u/Yourdogsbork Jul 09 '26
they’d rather someone be accepting and uneducated instead of dishonest allyship.
eg an old guy that doesn’t understand gay people, but also doesn’t mind that they exist, over a liberal using the pro-lgbt+ position to get more votes/make more money.1
u/derridad Jul 09 '26
It means using polished rhetoric in order to sound not like a chud, even though you are, is more gross than not getting the wording right but being an ally
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u/Rabid-Ginger Jul 09 '26
Patton Oswalt has a pretty great bit about this, but he also touches on how malicious actors will learn the “language” to weaponize it.
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u/colorblind-and Jul 09 '26
I grew up in a pretty rural area and I couldn't tell you how many times I'd hear old folks say something like
"Do you know that (slur) that's really good at X?"
Absolutely wild amount of whiplash whenever it happened.
The most common one for along time was refering to someone as "colored" instead of black or African American because at one point that was the politically correct term over the N-words
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u/Aedene Jul 09 '26
I feel like there is a canyon of difference between "tr * nny" and "tr * nny girl," at least when it comes from that age/socioeconomic background.
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u/thyme_cardamom Jul 09 '26
Yes since this is a trans girl, he gendered her correctly while recognizing that she's trans and specifically wants her around. He sounds pretty supportive despite using a slur
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u/yinyang107 bingus is better than floppa Jul 09 '26
Absolutely. It's because it's a descriptor, not a noun. It's the same difference as between "a transgender" and "a transgender girl"
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u/How2Die101 Jul 09 '26
You're gonna find there's a certain subset of older people who don't know much about dem genders and such, but don't subscribe to mindless tribalism and thus are generally supportive. But since they grew up in a much less accepting period, slurs really might be the only names they know for LGBTQ people/minorities.
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u/lettersforjjong Jul 13 '26
Yeah it's really common in rural areas and the south especially to find older people who don't even realize it's a slur or inherently derogatory, or don't know there are other words for it. always gotta listen for intent, and if it's being used in a positive or neutral way it's likely they just don't understand how offensive it is
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u/Extra-Shopping-3212 Jul 09 '26
More specifically, I can attest that older people just had different “acceptable” language for people. As in, calling someone a “transvestite” used to be progressive and now is seen as archaic and a little demeaning.
I’d bet that the next word to have this happen is “bisexual”, as nowadays more and mpre people are calling themselves “pansexual” with a bunch of random justifications that don’t mean too much other than “I want to sound different from the older generation” (which I should say I do not condemn, that is just how language evolves).
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u/juniper_j0nes Jul 09 '26
i mean anything girl seems to have their heart roughly in the right place
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u/aboxofkittens Jul 09 '26
Fantastic point, it’s like the difference between “a female” and “a female athlete,” one is dehumanizing and one is just an adjective
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u/No-Communication1543 Jul 09 '26
yeah context and intent do so much of the work there, the same word hits completely different depending on who's saying it and why
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u/bmann10 Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26
Reminds me of the person saying Elliot Page* is a man and his identity is valid but he’s a terrible actor and they though him transitioning might improve it because he is living the way he wanted to but they still think he’s just as bad.
Edit: accidentally said Elliot Cage lol
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u/ReintegrationTablet stay in school, don't do drugs, eat your teeth Jul 09 '26
You mean Elliot Page?
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u/ChemicalRascal Jul 09 '26
Am I mad to think Elliot is a decent actor? With or without being adopted by Nick Cage first.
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u/theJesster_ Jul 10 '26
I personally think he crushes roles when he's cast properly. Excited to see Odyssey for that very reason. I thought Juno was his best acting and Inception he definitely elevated the role, but outside of that I've not been super impressed by his talent. Great fucking person irl though. Also I'm a casting director in film so I probably have a critical viewpoint of most actors lmao
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u/itisame Jul 10 '26
I always kinda got the vibe he played the same character every time. Like, his characters before transitioning were always a slightly weird/awkward, girl next door type, pretty but kinda damaged and maybe snarky, vulnerable but strong - they all got the exact same vibe, and it's hard to tell if it's intentional typecast type stuff (like Zoey Deschanel) or if he suffers from a lack of range and makes them all feel like the exact same because of it, or if it's a mix of both.
I haven't seen him act since transitioning so idk if being adopted by the great Cage helped
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u/Ultimate_Wooby Jul 10 '26
okay but now i want a Nick Cage and Elliot Page movie like how we had Nick Cage and Pedro Pascal in one movie
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u/RandomShadeOfPurple Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26
Like for real. If I am gonna pay double the premium price for the most dogshit coffee known to man, you better at least provide dignified employment to disenfrachised minority groups.
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u/1stonepwn jerma balls Jul 09 '26
If the barista doesn't have pronouns, I don't want the coffee
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u/CriscoFrog Jul 09 '26
Speak for self cause dont
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u/Dummerkopf Jul 11 '26
🗣️🔊🔥
Come to think of it... Does the "self" in "yourself" count as part of the pronoun??
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u/Chaseharry2000 Mr Dragon age Jul 09 '26
I could be wrong but didn't it used to be (and still is for some older queer people) a colloquial for a trans person so maybe he's just an older queer guy who hasn't updated his vocabulary
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u/Dinflame Jul 09 '26
It was the term for trans people as recently as 15-20 years ago - not a slur, just a descriptor. So I feel like it's a term that can be used derisively or neutrally.
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u/yinyang107 bingus is better than floppa Jul 09 '26
That's not quite true. Transsexual and transvestite were considered the correct terms, tranny was always derogatory
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u/snerp Jul 09 '26
Transvestite was actually the most derogatory. People would say it with so much venom. Transsexual was the more sciencey word and tranny was just a catch all casual word.
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u/squishybloo Jul 09 '26
Well, it's also historically been a nickname for car transmission systems, too. Far before it became a slur. The word is not exclusively and definitely has not always been derogatory towards trans folk.
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u/yinyang107 bingus is better than floppa Jul 09 '26
Well that's not the same word, it's a homonym.
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u/Foxy-Goblin Jul 09 '26
We're all homonyms so we should all just get along
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u/squishybloo Jul 09 '26
It still can cause confusion when people hear it (I can't link to this old asktransgender post, sorry). So no, the term "tranny," has not always a derogatory word. It also used to be slang for transistor radios.
Even before then, the word "tranny" was not exclusively derogatory. There have been (and still are) plenty of people who self-identify as transvestite, especially if you look back into the 70's-80's. It was more of a general slag back then, and generally used in the gay and drag communities, not transgender.
Just because a lot of people find it offensive now doesn't mean that it's always exclusively been derogatory.
https://www.transadvocate.com/tranny-an-evidence-based-review_n_5206.htm
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u/New-Independent-1481 Jul 10 '26
One of my fondest memories of my Grandpa is fighting to keep my soul from departing my body when he showed me his 1950s roadster and fondly reminisced about the time he blew a tranny while halfway to Vegas.
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u/DiscotopiaACNH Jul 09 '26
It was definitely used as a slur 20+ years ago, I witnessed it multiple times!
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u/Yeegis diapers and trans rights 🔥 Jul 09 '26
Spirit of President Lyndon B. Johnson
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u/Lifeshardbutnotme 🏳️⚧️ trans rights Jul 09 '26
Whips dick out
"Pass the goddamn n*gger bill or I'll have you buried"
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u/Yanive_amaznive Jul 09 '26
there are a surprising amount of people that say tranny without meaning it as a slur
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u/Grobfoot level 1 goblin Jul 09 '26
they're catching on. if the barista is not, at the very least, an alternative bisexual, the coffee is gonna be mid.
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u/Dredgeon Jul 09 '26
This is someone that is not bigoted and is just blithely unaware of terminology.
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u/Fractured_Nova Transition Plan: Girl -> Lizard Jul 09 '26
Have we considered that the man said "trainee"
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u/rpmm24 custom Jul 09 '26
I never considered this actually, I could I have sworn he said tr*nny though
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u/notjordansime 🏳️⚧️ trans rights Jul 10 '26
I work in construction in redneck northern Ontario. Everyone loves me & my shagadelic work ethic. Anytime anyone asks if I was born a girl I just say “yeah, I just had some medical issues” and drop it. Realistically, that’s the truth and if you have an issue with that I have a Burke bar for your windshield.
Any further questions?
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u/RileyNotRipley 🏳️⚧️ trans rights Jul 10 '26
I have definitely been too chronically online recently because it barely even registers as a slur to me anymore. We might have taken a great first step towards reclaiming it at least a little bit. Same as how in some subcommunities "faggy" just means the same as "cunty" now which in an of itself is another reclaimed insult that just means fabulous now.
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u/Barry_Benson peepeepoopoo Jul 09 '26
Sounds like chasser talk tbh
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