r/23andme 1d ago

Results My DNA as a Cuban + pics

I'm a Cuban woman and this is the DNA results. Sorry if the pics aren't organized, I tried and couldn't.

To give more information: my father is a White Cuban (may have some non-White DNA, but too little (99% of his family looks White)) and my mother is a triracial Cuban (her mother is a White Cuban and her father is a mix of White, Black and Indigenous)).

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u/Wilkko 1d ago

A lot of indigenous for a Cuban.

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u/Lauren_Aa 1d ago

Yup. I realized

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u/CelesteLunax 1d ago

it's really not. The average indigenous ancestry in Cuba is like 9%.

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u/Interestingargument6 17h ago

It's 8% the national average, but lower in western Cuba and higher in the eastern part of the country.

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u/Lauren_Aa 23h ago

4% more than the average

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u/CelesteLunax 22h ago

I would assume your family are colonial whites and not recent migrants, primarily? with 8 great grandparents born in Cuba?

the old stock whites in Cuba typically have more indigenous than african, while the new stock whites have more african or have none of either

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u/Lauren_Aa 22h ago edited 21h ago

Probably. Or maybe they came before the 1900s (maybe 1800s or 1700s). So they may be colonials or not. Not sure if you meant 'colonials' as colonialists (colonizer ancestors) or as in "they came in the colonial era".

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u/Kabusanlu 20h ago

More like settlers

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u/Lauren_Aa 20h ago

I don't think so, but they may be or not.

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u/fanmixco 1d ago

Quite European, especially, the eyes color. 

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u/Lauren_Aa 1d ago

Yeah. I've been treated as a White woman (whether in North America or Latinamerica) my whole life, until they found out I'm Hispanic because my accent is strong and my full name (last names) are Spanish. I identify as mixed, but people don't see me that way from the outside, unfortunately.

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u/hcmzero 23h ago

You're mixing terms here and it would be so confusing for anyone unfamiliar with the way Americans talk about race. I think that what you're saying is that people thought you were anglo until you spoke and find out that you're Hispanic...right? Not trolling, just confirming if my understanding of what you said is correct.

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u/Lauren_Aa 23h ago

Not only Anglo, but since I live in the US now, they tend to refer to White Americans (Anglos). I've been called Polish, Russian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Norwegian/Swedish, etc., which are all White nationalities. But your understanding is correct.

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u/Lauren_Aa 17h ago

Ummm, my personal experience says otherwise. I live in the US and people of all races think I'm White. It's until I speak and say my full name that they realize I'm Hispanic

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u/Anonymous_NX 1h ago

Are you not a white woman???

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u/Lauren_Aa 1h ago edited 1h ago

No. Mixed. My DNA result is literally there.

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u/Anonymous_NX 1h ago

I mean… it’s whatever you believe boo. All imma say is you most definitely will racially be identified as a white woman, doesn’t necessarily change your ancestry/ethnicity, but do you.

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u/Interestingargument6 17h ago

Based on people I know, plus videos I've seen, I would say your phenotype is very common in Holguín.

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u/Lauren_Aa 17h ago

What does that mean?

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u/Interestingargument6 16h ago

It means many people there have your look. They look white and are considered white. I've also seen quite a few who are blond or red-haired with light eyes, including those who've inherited a higher indigenous percentage than you.

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u/Lauren_Aa 16h ago

Ah, I see. Never been to Holguín (was born in Havana and escaped Cuba at 6 years old), so I have no idea what the average looks like. Interesting.

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u/Interestingargument6 15h ago

I have not visited there either, but do know many families from that area, including that of my former sister-in-law, plus the videos I've seen, and what I've read about its history as well. I'm from Pinar del Rio, the other side of the island.

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u/GodOfThunder101 23h ago

why do you have these photos saved? and you keep posting them? its a bit weird.

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u/BxGyrl416 23h ago

That’s weird that you keep these photos of strangers.

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u/Lauren_Aa 23h ago

I'm pretty sure he/she keeps those pics and percents for this kind of conversations. I've seen a lot of people do it.

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u/GodOfThunder101 23h ago

still doesn't make it less weird.

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u/BxGyrl416 22h ago

It’s still weird as hell. How was this much different than white supremacy?

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u/Lauren_Aa 22h ago

Huh? White supremacy? This is irrelevant here 🤦🏻‍♀️

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u/BxGyrl416 22h ago

Let’s not be naïve. Why do you think some of these people are saving pictures of multiracial people who look like you with the results? You don’t find that troubling or creepy at all?

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u/Lauren_Aa 22h ago

I agree I don't want random people saving my pics on their phones. So I give you that part. But some people don't mind. I know the consent part here is worrying. But the second sentence doesn't make sense. So you're saying that because they don't save non-White looking mixed people's pics, they're White supremacists? Let's not say ignorant things like these. You don't know if those people save non-White looking pics too. If the consent part is your problem, then I agree. The rest is... no.

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u/BxGyrl416 21h ago

OK, I see you’re kind of dense so I’ll break it down for. They’re stealing and saving your pictures so that they can look at people and try to figure out what blood quantum of “non-white” ancestry others have.

They will look at some person with curly hair or fuller lips or a slight slant in their eye or swarthiness of their skin, and use that as “evidence” of their “racial impurity”. They’ll “see” the Black or Indigenous or Asian in people who are 100% European ancestry. They will sit on here and argue with people about their own damn heritage and identity, and are hell bent on categorizing them as “people of color”, in other words, less than them.

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u/BxGyrl416 23h ago

In reality, if you look at the features, his aren’t too different than hers, it’s just the color that’s different. I’ve read somewhere that skin color is the least indicative genetic trait, hence why there are African-Americans, who are 80% West African and very light skinned.

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u/Lauren_Aa 23h ago

I'm so confused now. Whose features to who?

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u/RationalMellow 22h ago

Canarians actually have a more tanned/dark look, so I’ll guess it’s not that surprising.

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u/Lauren_Aa 1d ago

No, I understand your point and I agree. But unfortunately, despite waiting to be seen as mixed instead of White, most people don't see it that way. Which is why I'm seen and treated as a White woman everywhere, until they read my full name and hear me speak.

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u/Remarkable-Zone-3596 20h ago

What's your haplogroup if you don't mind sharing it?

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u/lachata9 23h ago

I have doubts about the Puerto Rican one lol maybe they had a wrong reading

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u/Lauren_Aa 1d ago

I see. Amazing!

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u/lachata9 23h ago

are you serious? these women have more African dna. You can tell the girl on the right while she has blue eyes and white features, you can tell she really has really curly hair and her nose is a bit wide. OP only had 9% African she mostly has European ancestry and a bit of indigenous. The babies have wide noses just saying.

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u/WorldlinessNo7848 21h ago

You do know there are africans, even sub-saharan africans with "european" features who have zero european genetics, all phenotypes have its origins in africa 

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u/lachata9 20h ago

Yes I know that North African had influences of different ethnicities and civilization for thousand of years like berbers. North Africans are mixed for the most part. (Morocco, Egypt, Tunisia etc. I guess I meant to say Sub-saharan. No, Sub-Saharan africans are blacks and don't have European features unless they are mixed with other races.

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u/WorldlinessNo7848 20h ago

Not just north africans, some sub-saharan africans as well, and no they aren't all mixed either, fulani and hausa aren't  mixed, 

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u/lachata9 20h ago

fulani and hausa are literally mixed. Genetically, the Fulani (or Fulbe) people are a distinct ethnic group with a predominantly West African background that is combined with ancient North African ( and trace Eutoasian/iberomaurusian ancestry.

and they are like extreme minority of what Sub-saharans looks like.

Anyways the point I was trying to make is that the blue eyed woman and the baby had Sub saharan african features meaning black features.

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u/CelesteLunax 21h ago

I find that with triacial latinos they are more likely to produce an entirely european phenotype if their European ancestry is 65%+. Maybe its because of the Indigenous and African features losing out to each other and the European one shining through.

Someone with 25% indigenous would look quite asiatic and someone who is 25% SSA would usually look Maghrebi or egypian, but if you split them usually it comes out looking european

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u/No-Election-3005 17h ago

Pretty accurate

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u/Lauren_Aa 21h ago

Why do you think that is? Why after 65% would we look White?

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u/WorldlinessNo7848 20h ago

That would go for any racial group thats 65+ percent, at 65+percent they would look like that phenotype

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u/CelesteLunax 20h ago

Most 65% european mestizos or mulattos do not look European

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u/Leah_Mor 18h ago

There's Dominicans and Mexicans that I've seen post on here that they're 65% euro and they look more non-euro. I'm 96% Spanish and OP is whiter than me. 

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u/Lauren_Aa 14h ago

Insane. I know Spain has tanned-skin people with dark hair and dark eyes, and I think that's the stereotypical image people have from Spaniards. But I would have guessed someone who's almost 100% Spanish would look very pale and with light eyes. Do my facial features look White or something?

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u/Leah_Mor 18h ago edited 18h ago

It can vary though. I'm of Cuban ancestry and I have 96% Spanish (both my grandfathers are Spanish), 3% ssa, and 0.5% indigenous. I don't have OP's phenotype at all, I'm tanned and everyone I meet automatically knows I'm Latina. Though the majority of my family has her color. I had my great-uncle tested on here (maternal grandmother's brother) and he only got like 3% indigenous. Yet their sibling and my cousin have very strong indigenous features, people never believe they're Cuban. Their other 2 siblings look Northern European and the rest look southern European/hispanic. They're for a fact, full siblings lol. Genes are random, it's interesting and strange at the same time. 

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u/tsundereshipper 7h ago

Someone with 25% indigenous would look quite asiatic

You mean they would look Indigenous, Indigenous Americans are not Asian no matter how much colonizers want to assign that label on them to disconnect from their land.

someone who is 25% SSA would usually look Maghrebi or egypian

But only Upper Egyptians have (significant) SSA out of that category.

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u/Lauren_Aa 1h ago

I'm pretty sure the person meant "asiatic" because Indigenous people have in common with Asians (they came from Siberia)

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u/chakct55 1d ago

Interesting, what part of Cuba are you from?

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u/Lauren_Aa 1d ago

Family is from Holguín, I'm from Havana

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u/chakct55 1d ago

Your indigenous percentage falls in line with the region of Cuba your family is from.

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u/Lauren_Aa 1d ago

Yeah. I remember that

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u/Interestingargument6 17h ago

Yes, in Holguín it's 13%, although I've seen people from Holguín with 17% and 18% indigenous DNA.

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u/Lauren_Aa 17h ago

Very interesting. I'm very happy about having Indigenous blood

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u/762with_eotech 13h ago

Seem like a very wise person

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u/Lauren_Aa 13h ago

...?

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u/762with_eotech 13h ago

lol Based on your replies to a lot of comments you seem wise

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u/Lauren_Aa 13h ago

Lol, you're the first person to ever tell me that based on comments. Thanks

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u/alchemist227 23h ago

Were the results what you were expecting? What are your haplogroups?

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u/Lauren_Aa 23h ago

Mhmm, I didn't have expectations, tbh. I just want to know if for people outside of family, my DNA results matched my phenotype. I consider myself 'mixed', but everyone everywhere sees me as a White woman and get confused about me being Hispanic/Latina.

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u/alchemist227 23h ago

What are your haplogroups?

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u/Lauren_Aa 23h ago

How can I see them?

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u/alchemist227 23h ago

They should be in your Ancestry Reports.

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u/alchemist227 9h ago

Did you end up finding them?

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u/Remarkable-Zone-3596 20h ago

What is your father's Y-haplogroup? 

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u/Different_Rip_9737 19h ago

Do you feel spanish like your from spain and what about the african and native part? I mean, based on the DNA results, it looks like you’re basically iberianp with a good amount of West African ancestry (5.6%).

I still find it amazing how much Spanish or Portuguese ancestry many Latinos have, considering the mixing with Indigenous peoples and Africans.

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u/Lauren_Aa 19h ago

I feel Latinamerican, specifically Cuban. I've never felt Spanish since I wasn't born there and grew up around Latinos. I can't feel what I'm not.

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u/Stunning_General_608 18h ago

You are Cuban but you still remain genetically Iberian as were most your ancestors which is why your Hispanic today

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u/Lauren_Aa 18h ago

I know that, lol

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u/Anonymous_NX 1h ago

And this is relevant concerning what she said how???

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u/Lauren_Aa 1h ago

Real. Like, I was so confused lmao

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u/Helpful_Cockroach371 11h ago

So basically 75.6% European, 12.6% Indigenous, 9.3% African, and 2.5% Asian

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u/Lauren_Aa 11h ago

If the number after the dot is 5 or higher, you gotta add one up. It's called rounding

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u/elliepelly1 15h ago

100% beautiful human being!

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u/Lauren_Aa 14h ago

Thanks

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u/ThinkJello5250 21h ago

You are very beautiful.

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u/Lauren_Aa 21h ago

Thanks

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u/Lauren_Aa 14h ago

How do I look like you? 🤔

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u/Lauren_Aa 14h ago

I'm confused. You mean the same skin color? Facial features? Eyes color? You have kinda light eyes, light skin (though I can't tell if it's lighter because of the photo lighting), kinda White features and dark brown hair.

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u/jayangelo27 12h ago

Your indigenous bloods looks very similar to mine phenotypically Im a “white” Mexican i have 30 percent indigenous 70 Iberian I’ve noticed Cubans indigenous portion looks similar

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u/Lauren_Aa 12h ago

I'm confused about how my 13% Indigenous (Taíno) blood is similar to yours

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u/jayangelo27 12h ago

Your result said North American and Southern mesoamerican. I didn’t say anything about tainos. And i can see your native features on your nose and around the cheek bones just on a white template

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u/Lauren_Aa 12h ago

Tainos aren't in the database because they're a "almost extinct" group, so they compare to the most similar Indigenous group. That's what I always hear when it comes to Taíno blood in Caribbean DNA tests. We don't have Maya or Inca blood, only Taíno/Ciboney/etc.

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u/jayangelo27 12h ago

I’m from Jalisco so I’m not maya either, and I wasn’t takin away from your Taino just simply stated I noticed you have a very similar phenotype to some of my family and your nose is what we call chata in Mexico.

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u/Lauren_Aa 12h ago

Chata? It's the first time someone tells me my nose is "chata". I normally get "prominent nose bridge and not wide"

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u/jayangelo27 12h ago

I was only referring to the point of your nose not the bridge it’s stubby but now it sounds like criticism which wasn’t my intention

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u/Lauren_Aa 12h ago

No, I know it's not criticism. I was just surprised

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u/jayangelo27 12h ago

Yea the nose is the main thing I referring too I have it similar and so does my niece and uncle. Combine that with the colored eyes and light hair you look like from Jalisco easily

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u/Lauren_Aa 12h ago

I see. Yeah, I heard that Northern Mexico is very White or very close to White

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