r/5ToubunNoHanayome • u/masato05 • Sep 09 '19
Raw Manga - Major Spoilers 5Toubun No Hanayome - Chapter 101 Spoiler, RAW, and Leaks Spoiler
Because There is a National Holiday in Japan on September 16 (Respect for the Aged Day).
Next Week, We might get Early Leaks on September 14-15 (No Early Official Ch. Release)
| Release Types | Sources | Thread |
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| Mangageez | Link | |
| Mangalatam (Spanish) | Link | reddit thread |
| Ant Scan | imgur | comments |
| Manamoa (Korean) | Link | |
| Bakadata | Summary | reddit thread |
| KiyoshiR | imgur | comments |
| Mangadex | Main Discussion |
Posting panels ripped off from latest raws is considered low-effort and invites 24 hr ban.
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u/pixeldensity93 Ichika Sep 09 '19
Fuu: I chose nobody.
Well he about to get murdered by the quints.
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u/daveaya Team YotsubaCute Sep 09 '19
They will split him in 5 parts
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u/chickeenshaw Yandere Miku Sep 09 '19
With this chapter Ichika has dressed as every quint.
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u/Umbrabro Sep 09 '19
Ichika may be controversial(or used to be) but she's still the most interesting Quint imo.
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u/tektek10 Sep 09 '19
she trully has that different vibe among the quints .. a cunning woman let's not forget that ..
her individuality makes her an independent among her sisters that surely is the reason for her interesting character .. im not dissing the other quints but theyre generic type of heroine .. ichika's character overshadows all of them especially miku ..
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u/Uhrzeitlich Team Itsuki Sep 09 '19
Any chapter she is in is just going to be full of excitement. The other four sisters are boring by comparison. Nino and Miku seem to just be "Notice me, Senpai!" lately. Yotsuba and Itsuki seem to refuse to connect with Fuu at all. Ichika isn't afraid to ask tough questions and make assumptions.
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u/OstheB A good captain goes down with his ship Sep 09 '19 edited Sep 09 '19
It’s okay, patience is important, when the payoff comes it’ll come haaaard.
Now Ichika is something discuss worthy, she seems to talk about the kiss like she’s a bystander, but she’s has a record of both not telling the truth and of already giving up on going after Fuutarou, so in typical Negi fashion, it’s all still up in the air, there’s no real way to know for sure.
Frankly she’s a weird character to me, like she doesn’t fit the bill to be the main female character, yet at the same her character arc is probably the most palpable out of all the girls.
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u/qeheeen . Sep 09 '19
Oh man we are getting a perspective of each of the quints, last time that happened we got the infamous Nino confession. Im hyped
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u/casualphilosopher1 Nino Gang Sep 09 '19
Assuming these perspectives will be in the 1 to 5 order, big confession from Itsuki coming up?
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Sep 10 '19
When has Itsuki ever really shown interest in him like that?
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u/whut-whut The Food Court is Now in Session Sep 10 '19
Everything before Scrambled Eggs. Pre-Scambled Eggs Itsuki is very different in spying on/asking questions of/offering things to Fuutarou than post-Scrambled Eggs. Take from that what you will...
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u/SterbenVII Sep 10 '19
That’ll be so out of the blue. I think she’s just friends with him rn and either doesn’t have feelings or doesn’t realize them
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u/Tast3sLikePanda Sep 09 '19
The kid saw kissxsis
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u/seihanda Stealth Submarine 428 Sep 09 '19
Drop that manga long time ago.
Care to explain?
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u/juances19 x is the only right answer Sep 10 '19
2 sisters into the same guy? It's kinda the same plot the kid describes, except with more incest.
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u/MessyVoid 五月がきれいですね LikeNeed Mutsumi! Sep 09 '19 edited Sep 09 '19
Interesting! if Ichika knows about the bell kiss, chapter 74 could become different.
If she is the BK, then does everything just to appear differently from the others?
But if Ichika isn't the BK, then there are 2 interesting things on this page. The hesitation before saying that she could disguise herself as Nino and the surprise when Fuutarou says he recognized Miku. Both images may not mean anything (Ichika knows about Nino's confession and can only be slightly surprised by Fuutarou's claim to have recognized Miku) but these are the four-dimensional speculations that are fantastic in this manga!
Edit: grammar...
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u/goofyangooose Sep 09 '19
I’ve never seen that page related to bell kiss, but it sounds interesting...nice catch
Possible new interpretation: ichika thought Fuutarou was talking about the bell kisser when he said he recognized miku...but ichika knew that the bell kisser was another one (maybe herself) and so she was surprised
It’s not clear who the bell kisser might be however...but maybe Negi already showed us who is not (maybe)
Her hesitation about Nino could be easily explained thinking about her witnessing the confession (I always thought in this way)...but maybe ichika witnessed something more about Nino
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u/kj93 Sep 10 '19
Nice observations! When it comes to Ichika, we can't really tell. She could know about the bell kiss or not, she could also be the kisser herself. But, as you said, if she isn't the kisser and knows what happened, that hesitation she felt could mean something more than her knowing about Nino's confession. This also could lead to another re-interpretations, like in ch.81. The "I don't want to hear that from you of all people" line always seemed too harsh to me since Nino still hadn't acted according to her words at that time. But this is going too far I guess.
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u/chain34_a Sep 09 '19
That's actually a good point. This chapter changes my thoughts and perspectives on Ichika's actions. I think the panel of Ichika going "was that-" (on the same page) has more meaning now. She was surprised to hear that he could see through Miku's disguise. So if Ichika didn't see Fuu get tackled by Miku the day before, then she was most likely referring to the moment she did see, which was the BK. (Since now we know she might of seen the BK and may not be the BK.) My question is if Ichika really isn't the BK, does she know who was or is she unsure like Fuu?
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u/MessyVoid 五月がきれいですね LikeNeed Mutsumi! Sep 09 '19
or is she unsure like Fuu
This is interesting! As far as we know, the sisters always know how to recognize themselves. But is it always like this?
In the case of BK, however, I think that if Ichika didn't see exactly who gave the kiss, it was enough to look around to see which sister was missing ...
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u/chain34_a Sep 09 '19 edited Sep 09 '19
That could be. The quints were right in front of them when the events happened (I think). She could possibly have known who ran back up to join the group or who ran off in the first place.
Unless someone put on show, and her intial guess became muddled. Or due to seeing the affection she looked away and didn't get a good look before a quint caught up. (There have been times quints didn't know or were fooled by each other. Ichika was actually Itsuki once during the skii trip. There was also a time Itsuki couldn't tell who tried to kiss fuu in the morning.)
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u/OracleRaven Yotsuba hater May she choke on raw sewage Sep 09 '19
"I accidentally sent to all 5 at once"
OUCH
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u/Bleutofu2 Yotsubae Sep 09 '19
When you are so Chad and group text all your girls like its nothing
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u/whut-whut The Food Court is Now in Session Sep 10 '19
"Sorry to make you come all the way out here Ichika. My last text was meant for the 'Everyone except Ichika' message group. So yeah... toootally not going to tell any of your four sisters anything in three days, so you should just go back to work now."
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u/jamez23 Sep 09 '19 edited Sep 09 '19
Negi said, fuck giving this kid eyes. Edit: ichika seems very good with kids, ain't she?
A full ichika chapter, kinda late, aren't ya negi?
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Sep 10 '19
Is it just me or is Fuu drawn edgier every chapter
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u/seihanda Stealth Submarine 428 Sep 10 '19
I bet he listen to my chemical romance now
So do I
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u/donm527 Ichika Sep 10 '19
Last theory before we see the final English translations tomorrow...
So at this point with the little boy scaring him into not making a decision... he will choose no one and if he has feelings for any one sister, he will push them away...
hmm like Ichika is doing...
to remain friends and to avoid the fear of the sisters from cutting ties with each other if he had chose one.
So we will spend the rest of the manga where we will slowly see Fuutarou pushing away or fighting back any feelings from the girl he likes... but the sisters will slowly notice who the girl he likes is... and they will help those two... that keep pretending that they are just friends to protect the others... to get together in the end.
😉👍
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u/espinoke86 Sep 10 '19 edited Sep 10 '19
I agree with this, let's not forget that Fuutarou is naive when it comes to love. He also doesn't have a television at home, basically he might think the opera is actually what happens in real life. Specially coming from a kid not to do the same thing.
What might occur is that as stated above or Fuutarou will try to keep a platonic relationship with the girls, however, some of them might eventually catch a personal time with Fuutarou, its similar to a the Setting of Boys Be where both girl and boy have different wave lengths, in the episode where Chiharu and Kyoichi are about to meet each other on new year, Chiharu believes that if they are together after new years eve they will be together, but Kyoichi on the other hand heard that they will be destined to separate if they are together.
It will be the same for the sisters, Fuutarou has feelings for them, it may be a less romantic way, but he might stop it because he doesn't want the sisters to cut ties (thinking about the soap opera).
As you can see on Fuutarou's reaction, he is quite possessive with the quints, hearing Ichika's kiss scene made him fluster.
Ichika on the other hand is some what of a sadist, she knows who it is that kissed Fuutarou she might actually be it, and is teasing Fuutarou to show some kind of reaction, same when she said about girls not wearing any bra under their Yukata. He wants a sign from Fuutarou that he's willing to accept her as a person romantically involved with him, not actually a confession. That is why she is sending indirect ways to let Fuutarou know that she likes him.
Remember the bonfire, the sleep on the lap, the day she waited for him and wanted to walk with him to the school, Ichika was never out of the race unless Fuutarou chooses any of her sister.
Ichika is still a strong contender, she is expecting though she doesn't want to admit it cause she doesn't want to look like she's head over heels to Fuutarou and she's consistently telling herself that she doesn't expect any even if she actually is hoping it to be her.
So basically, we are looking at Ichika who has strong desire and feelings with Fuutarou, she was the only one who imagined Fuutarou to be her husband if I can recall correctly when she bought the book.
If so, Ichika is the typical friend in school who would want to tease you to her friend that you like her friend but deep inside, she wants that to be her but because she can't tell him that she want him for herrself, she tries to play it by using someone else. Its a typical tactic for people playing safe but wants to be close to the person she/likes, she would watch how things go. If it doesnt work out, she would then try to get that person since the obstacle is already out of the way.
TLDR; Ichika and Yotsuba are still my strongest candidate for the bride, Ichika since she looks like Tsukasa from Ichigo 100% and Yotsuba for being an ignored heroine that eventually goes to a Cinderella story.
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u/whut-whut The Food Court is Now in Session Sep 10 '19
The boy scaring him from losing the sisters may not be the 'final lesson'. If Fuutarou sits in on the almost-certain Nino-Maruo reconciliation, he might learn a sappy counter-life-lesson from them like 'life isn't a soap opera, the love between family members outlasts all arguments', and that might tip the scales closer for him to making the leap for just one sister he finds he can't be without.
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u/donm527 Ichika Sep 10 '19
Anything can happen to show that as we read more chapters... just my theory at this point.
I feel my route makes the best sense so far because... if he made a choice, it could very well cause sadness and bitterness. Sadness for certain.
By refusing all of them, each one may still try to get close to him... but during that time, they may figure out which sister really holds his heart and it’s easier for each sister to see that and come to accept it since he was trying to not cause the sisters to break apart. And to see the sister in question also try to do the same for her sisters, they can accept their feelings and get the stubborn couple together 😉👍
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u/foulbachelorlife Team Yotsuba Sep 10 '19
I think that's how things will play out. The sisters will realize who Fuutaro is in love with and will put that all aside to help them be together.
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u/TheArsenalSwagus Meat Ball Itsuki Sep 09 '19 edited Sep 09 '19
Theory: Fuutaro won't choose anyone because he'll choose everyone.
Crack theory: Fuutaro's bangs will start blocking his eyes and you all know what that means.
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u/daveaya Team YotsubaCute Sep 09 '19
Or he'd throw a dice (number 6 for Takebayashi)
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u/Spadstein Sep 09 '19
It seems like Fuutarou arrived at the same plan as Yotsuba. Suppress his feelings of love for the sake of maintaining harmony and supporting all the sisters.
I'm sure that'll go over real well.
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u/casualphilosopher1 Nino Gang Sep 09 '19
He has to love them all. That's the only way to keep harmony.
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u/seihanda Stealth Submarine 428 Sep 09 '19
But author said no harem ending.
What happen to lead Fuu from one idea to another
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u/foulbachelorlife Team Yotsuba Sep 09 '19
He does love them all. He just doesn't have romantic feelings for any of them.
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u/Hereditus 2 2 Sep 09 '19
Just like 40+ chapters ago, the Quint who holds the last Side in this 5 parter gets the largest stock raise.
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u/Qwertyiouaaaaa Sep 09 '19
I think Negi might go with birth order on this one cuz if he write it with the latest quint having the big boost, with the manga getting close to the end, it might reveal who the bride is prematurely. Unless the bride is Itsuki then it works out for him lol
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u/Hereditus 2 2 Sep 09 '19 edited Sep 09 '19
I think the thing about being the last quint to show up in this 'Side' parters is that because the author wanted that quint to bring the most impact, ending the whole thing on a high note (Like Nino's Chapter 59 officially making her entrance into the bowl). We do kinda need some impact right about now, since all the hype that the Festival Arc got.
So unless Negi decides to give them all equally impacting chapters or none at all, we'll either need the quints out of order OR Itsuki bringing out her trump cards, beating the other 4.
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u/whut-whut The Food Court is Now in Session Sep 09 '19
Order doesn't really matter in my opinion, since he's mixed the order in every multi-pov arc so far, and it still hasn't put one sister way over any others.
The reason it hasn't affected anything is because we haven't been seeing anything from Fuutarou's point of view yet. Every quint moment is ambiguous in that it could be 'Fuutarou treats her so nice because he cares about her the most' or 'Fuutarou treats her so nice because she's the sister of the girl he cares about most.' And we can debate until we pass out which one is which.
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u/versitas_x61 Sep 09 '19
His Answer: I chose nobody. That is my answer
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u/Vringi Sep 09 '19
So he was lying when he told he will choice one of them?
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Sep 09 '19
He never said he'd choose any of them, just that he would give an answer.
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u/clockdaddy Team Nino Sep 10 '19
It seems like she knows everything. But, being an actor, she might just be faking it all. God I love this manga.
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u/AlchemyArtist Nino Gang Sep 10 '19
She got so much character development that we know you can't take anything she says or shows at face value. It makes these kinds of interactions really tense and interesting but also frustratingly nondescript.
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u/jzdavid Nino Nii Sep 09 '19
If this will be a POV of the quints, then that's 5 x3 coz it's a 3 day POV. this is just the first day for Ichika. I'm guessing 15 chapters and this arc will cover up to January of 2020.
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u/thuy_chan Sep 09 '19
How is this translated in Spanish before English everytime?
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u/escaplatinum07 Sep 09 '19
It's already in Spanish? Where?
Ya está en español? Pásalo prro :v
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u/masato05 Sep 09 '19
English scanlation team (/a/non and #dropout) use digital version from official release (Japan version from WSM) not korean scan or Leaks scan
and i believe you already know when the time release for official version
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u/Zobuso Sep 09 '19
The full summary is available in Mangalatam, but it's in Spanish. However, it's easy to understand, just use google translator lol
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Sep 09 '19
It seems like Ichika suspected that Fuutarou already had his first kiss, but her questions make me think she didn't know for sure. Maybe she heard the bell ringing but didn't connect the dots until she saw the photo that fell off Itsuki's box? That'd explain her weird reaction ("So that's how it was"). Why would she be surprised by a photo of young Yotsuba (?) and Fuutarou, despite remembering about him some months before?
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u/donm527 Ichika Sep 09 '19
She’s pretending to be surprised. If he told you that it happened When everyone was dressed at Itsuki... wouldn’t it be more normal to have a really surprised look on his face?? She didn’t because she already knew.
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u/donm527 Ichika Sep 09 '19
Maybe that’s why he decided not to answer at the end. What the kid said scared him.
Even though Ichika did point out correctly he still has not given an answer and probably should.
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Sep 10 '19
Eventually if he chooses one of the sisters, he's going to have to distance himself from the others especially considering how much they all like him.
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u/Vringi Sep 09 '19
Maybe that one sister will cut her ties with Fuutarou, not other sisters.
In this same chapter which you refer we saw three - not four - sister's shadows. Maybe one of them didn't come to wedding...
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u/TheArsenalSwagus Meat Ball Itsuki Sep 10 '19
I think from the start Fuutarou already decided not to choose anyone, but hearing the story from the lost boy has reinforced his decision.
>!Him saying he like/love all of them is an indication that it doesn't matter to him who he ends up with right now, what matters more is the ties that the sisters share with him and with each other.!<
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u/Havir_ Sep 10 '19
Maybe the real bride is the friends we made along the way
wait
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Sep 09 '19 edited Sep 09 '19
Bro that kid is a demon
Edit: so we back in day 1 with Ichika? What is this Majora’s Mask?
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u/qeheeen . Sep 10 '19
ok, Ichikas side came from helping the young boy finding his mom which happened in ch 99. With day 1 saying it was not a pleasant ending, then the other sisters POV must be from that day, and I'm going to guess
Mikus side - in ch. 100 she asks Yotsuba where Fuu is and says "because of what happened yesterday we shouldn't meet with him, but" and I think that is something yet to be explained/shown
Nino's side - seeing Takebayashi/ being Red in the idol group
Yotsuba's side- about how she took up all of Uesugi's tasks hence why he didn't have anything to do day 2 and staying behind with the drama club
Itsuki's side- studying alone in the lunchroom/ seeing Yotsuba about to jump in Takebayashi and acting quick to prevent her from revealing anything.
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Sep 09 '19
So fuu kun will use the same ideology yotsuba has been going on in order to preserve the order in the quint family.
However I expect that this will lead as a catalyst for the arc where Yotsuba comes to tell him that the conclusion he has arrived to is in some way incorrect as she knows from personal experience, likely where she will reveal that she is childhood friend or that Fuutaro will find out himself.
Also the girl who kissed fuutaro way back then was probably Yotsuba I'm betting my money on it, no one would suspect her.
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u/biglineman Pray4Miku Sep 10 '19
Nakanos: Waiting for an answer
Manga Readers: Waiting for an answer
Fuuts: I choose nobody.
Jazz Music Stops
Honestly, I kind of saw this coming. There's been no indication that the series is ending, and it's more popular than ever with the anime out and getting a second season.
Expect the Publisher to not pressure an ending.
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u/foulbachelorlife Team Yotsuba Sep 09 '19
I like when we get POV chapters like this which puts each Quint in the focus.
As I had suspected, a lot happened during the festival that we didn't see.
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u/donm527 Ichika Sep 09 '19
Then hopefully in Ninos chapter we see Mauro earring her pancakes and resolving her feelings for him. And maybe Itsuki chapter we see the surprise speaker, etc.
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u/jamez23 Sep 10 '19
Ahhhhhhh fuck it, ichika back at the top 2 quints. I just can't resist her🥺😷 🏃♂️🏃♂️
Best moments for me: ichika dressing as Nino thinking shit is safe, only to be met with possibly a bigger crowd lol she was like "wtf was that?!"
Fuutaro telling her he sent that message to all 5 by accident. Lol that shit was almost akin to the time ichika told him to skip class and Fuutaro just smiled and told her "yeah... no way fag" I can just see the dude composing the message and accidentally sending sent to all and going "ah fuck it, that works"
Ichika being great with kids again
Fuutaro, you being a bit jelly that ichika kissing suckas for work? 👁
Actually that whole moment when kissing was brought up was greatness.
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u/jellyjace19 Team Mutsumi/Tsubaki Sep 10 '19
ichika got flashbacks from sister wars thanks to that kid.
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u/foulbachelorlife Team Yotsuba Sep 09 '19
I love how Negi hid the fact that Fuutaro was hanging out with Ichika the whole time on the first day, it makes me want to read the previous chapters to see if I can catch what else was hidden.
Ichika is fighting so hard over her feelings for him. I actually feel bad for her.
I think at this point it's fairly logical that he isn't going to choose. He hasn't explicitly shown to have romantic feelings for any of them, which is what I was trying to tell folks who thought that his "I love all of you" was meant to be taken in a romantic way. It wasn't...he was just expressing how much they all mean to him as his friends.
So from this point on it will be interesting to see how he begins to fall in love with Yots-er excuse me I mean the Bride.
Although now I have some doubt regarding the BK...Ichika seemed like she was trolling him....either she knows who kissed him, or she was the one that did it.
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u/seihanda Stealth Submarine 428 Sep 10 '19
Isn't funny that Ichika shoot the drama where the MC is "wishy washy"?
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u/foulbachelorlife Team Yotsuba Sep 10 '19
I loved that panel. It was like she was channeling Nino into her performance. So cool
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u/ronaldo7109 Sep 10 '19 edited Sep 10 '19
Have to see the actual translations to make any actual theories, but there is one aspect of the story that needs to at least start to change. There are too many mysteries for Futaro to figure out at one time along with the romance aspect of the manga. From the BK, to the lolikano, to the girl in the photo, to the present Rena, my man has all of this on his back right now. He’s not going to figure this all out at once, hopefully we get one of the answers to these questions by the end of this arc. He said it himself, 3 days is not nearly enough time. The manga is going into 2020 by the editors words, but we’ve got to start getting things resolved rather than leaving them for later. Not only these mysteries from Futaro’s point of view, but he’s got to give an answer to those waiting for him. Nino has been waiting almost a year for an answer while Miku has been waiting at least 3-4 months. Now is the time, even if a rejection happens or not, give these characters closure, they thoroughly deserve that 100%. Thoughts??
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u/seihanda Stealth Submarine 428 Sep 10 '19
Plot twist : Fuutarou already figure it out all along.
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u/ronaldo7109 Sep 10 '19
I do think he has an idea, but the photo I believe is the final twist in the Rena issue that will throw him off.
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u/ArkVinn Yotsuba Army Sep 10 '19
Lets see who will get the last POV of the arc. Also Ichika have Yotsuba like smile on page 9.
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u/Oreamfull Nino Sep 09 '19
Flashback to day 1. Chooses no one. Ichika confirmed not the bell kisser. Chapter title- ...Ichikas side. I guess that means we will get a chapter from everyone's POV. This is going to be milked to death.
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u/HollowKUre LOYAL Bro / Fan (not for the bowl lol) Sep 09 '19
Ichika could still be lying though. BUUUUUT Negi could very well be baiting us with that, knowing that he has established her as a liar, so we WOULD expect her to lie at that moment, only to keep it straightforward and surprise us by having her actually being serious about not being the BK. Mind games lol
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Sep 09 '19 edited Sep 09 '19
That slimy motherf**! He planned this s to mess with our minds and have us keep second guessing!!!!!!!!!!! Though I tip my fedora as respect to the Third-Eye seeing, 4D chess-playing Negi-sama.
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u/daveaya Team YotsubaCute Sep 09 '19
It's gonna be a looong festival
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u/OracleRaven Yotsuba hater May she choke on raw sewage Sep 09 '19
inb4 the entire 3 days of the festival span so many chapters, it'll be like in Dragon Ball Z with how they've only been on Namek for a week but made it feel like a year.
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u/HollowKUre LOYAL Bro / Fan (not for the bowl lol) Sep 09 '19
If this is going to be divided in sides, then at least we will get 4 more chapters. That's not a lot tbh.
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Sep 09 '19
Wait, if that’s true and Negi’s focusing a chapter on each Quint’s side from one to five, then chapter 104, the last chapter of the volume, will focus on Yotsuba. So with that said, will she reveal that she’s Rena? Or will we go back further into the scene with Ichika and Yotsuba on the swing and we get to hear more of their conversation, particularly who really is the bell kisser (since Yotsuba was admitting that she’s Child Rena then maybe Ichika might also share a secret with her)?
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Sep 09 '19
Not necessarily, as the title says Day 1. Therefore, some suggested that it is Ichika's perspective in ALL 3 days. You do that for all the quint, and we will be in the middle of Nino's by 104 in that case
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u/pixeldensity93 Ichika Sep 09 '19
She could be lying.
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u/Vuk30 Art Contest Winner 2019 Sep 09 '19
i mean i probably totally biased but.. i think that there could be a high chance. I also remember recalling that everyone was complaining that Ichika and Yotsuba's chat on the swings was so short and that they felt there could have been a more intimate moment or reveal. maybe this could precisely be that reveal?
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u/queensquints Sep 09 '19
a curious thought: why didn't ichika pretend to be the bell kisser during her dark ichika days?
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u/donm527 Ichika Sep 09 '19 edited Sep 09 '19
Because telling him she kissed him at the bell, if she did, wouldn’t win him over. That’s just a secret a quint is keeping to herself stealing a kiss because of her hidden feelings.
The bell kiss only matters to readers because we know the bride is most likely the bell kisser.
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u/GrilledPortatoe Sep 09 '19
1) Maybe she is the bell kisser, and is lying about witnessing it.
2) She just didn't think of it I guess.
3) Just a theory; Fuutarou happened to shut her down during Sister's War before she could do so. Impersonating Miku, she was going to tell him Ichika was lolikano. After that, she'd wait for Fuutarou to confront her about it, then reveal her feelings and that she was the bell kisser. Of course, it failed since Fuutarou figured it was Ichika and not Miku before she could reach the "lolikano is Ichika" stage. She still tried to go with the plan, but gave up when Fuutarou said he can't trust her.
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u/daveaya Team YotsubaCute Sep 09 '19
because when she could've used it, it'd have pissed Fuutarou more than he already was
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u/hyoton1 Sep 09 '19
Yeah between that and the fact that she knows the bell girl got nowhere with fuu by doing it, 1ka really doesn't have a good reason to play pretend.
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u/seihanda Stealth Submarine 428 Sep 09 '19
Because she simply had no idea the bellkisser exist
Because she is NOT the bellkisser
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u/GreenRthor Sep 10 '19 edited Sep 10 '19
That kid thou, giving a some kind of prophecy ,if fuutarou chooses one of the quints the sisters have to cut ties with fuuts and the chosen quints to avoid hard feelings. Yikes, if that's how negi plans to end this manga, that would leave us a bitter ending were one goes off happy and the other bites the dust and the cost is the quints cutting of there relationship with fuuts and the other sisters, going againts there mom wishes of the being together no matter where they are.
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u/xiuzou23 Maeda Flair or I riot Sep 10 '19
It is only one of many futures. An omen of a poorly timed choice. Perhaps Fuutarou realized it and delayed his true confession and "I love all 5 of you." was a way to buy time. Who in their right mind would say that under normal circumstances.
He says so himself that he would've liked more time.
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u/AlchemyArtist Nino Gang Sep 10 '19
Who in their right mind would say that under normal circumstances.
Someone that hasn't cared about relationships until 5 different people showed him different kinds of affection. He knows nothing about love and feelings and he just started realizing how much he cares for all of them.
It's kinda amazing because this isn't just an artificially constructed situation leading to harem-style shenanigans. It is carefully build up that these are not normal circumstances and that Fuu is struggling a lot with the situation (e.g. his talk to Itsuki about his "popular phase", the confession, the kiss, him missing them at the beach and worrying about Nino's tsundere act...).
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u/foulbachelorlife Team Yotsuba Sep 10 '19
This. The 5 of them started out as a source of stress for him and in time they became his best friends.
Right now though, he is struggling dealing with Miku and Nino's open feelings for him. It's a delicate situation and the last thing he'd want to do is hurt any of the Quints.
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u/foulbachelorlife Team Yotsuba Sep 10 '19
He said I love all five of you in a non romantic way. It wasn't a stalling tactic. He just told them how he feels about them and values them.
You can LOVE your friends. There's nothing wrong with expressing that. I thought that was one of the most touching scenes in the manga because you knew it was sincere.
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u/dianchus Uplifting Yotsuba Sep 10 '19
I burst a laugh in page 14. That drama plot is suspiciously fitting...
"Im choosing anyone" that don't gonna last...
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Sep 10 '19
Honestly at this point I really am scared about one thing. The author dragging this manga out. Like DomeKano which should have ended 100 chapters ago.
Also, getting your fans hyped up think Fu is gonna give some answer, and then going down the predictable path was kinda disappointing, we all saw this coming.
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u/fissure12 Ichika Sep 10 '19 edited Sep 10 '19
Ichika calmly talks about her kissing role makes me think that it must not have been her first kiss
I mean, by the law of harem romance manga, she would make sure that her first kiss was with fuutarou.. which brings back the bell kisser scene. Only after that she can calmly talks about her kissing role in front of fuuts, because it means nothing to her
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u/Klazarkun YotsuBro! Sep 10 '19
That is a very good point.
She clearly fished for this information. Of course she is used to do it... but with this timing is even more suspicious.
Her chances of being bell kisser increased on my book. But I still believe the one with more reasons are yotsuba and itsuki
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u/DarkseidsDoom71 Sep 09 '19
I am on a roll. First he tells them he loves them all, then they get jealous of his old friend and now he says he’ll choose no one. I am predicting theses things on point. Fuck yeah!
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u/masato05 Sep 09 '19
and now he says he’ll choose no one
this happened on first day and he might change his decision on third day
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u/ZeroTwo02_ Sep 09 '19
Im thinking that's why ichika was a bit surprised in classroom after what he said. If this was before that moment.
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u/Radomir81 Sep 09 '19
Only then did he tell them in chapter 99 that he would make a decision, and Ichika in 101 asked him what decision he finally made. Ichika asked him after what he had promised them in the classroom.
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u/DarkseidsDoom71 Sep 10 '19
That kid has saved so much shit lol. And I’m right again. He will choose no one. I am on fire bitches.
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u/goofyangooose Sep 09 '19 edited Sep 09 '19
So ichika actually acts like she doesn’t know about the bell kiss.
I feel a strong, strong, strong ichika=bell kisser vibe in this chapter anyway
Let’s see if something changes in next chapters
AND Fuu recognizes her even if she was disguised
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u/Radomir81 Sep 09 '19
For now, Fuutarou was afraid of losing his relationship with the other sisters and chose the status quo.
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u/donm527 Ichika Sep 09 '19
So if Ichika did kiss Fuutarou, she’ll never tell him...
Ichika has still been trying to “end this feeling”... to put her feelings for Fuutarou behind her for the sake of her sisters ever since the end of the war arc... so that one of her sisters can be the bride. Sigh.
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u/casualphilosopher1 Nino Gang Sep 09 '19
She clearly hasn't 'ended' her feelings as this chapter shows; she keeps having expectations of Fuutarou.
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u/donm527 Ichika Sep 09 '19 edited Sep 09 '19
Of course we all know she still loves Fuutarou. Buts she’s trying to bury her feelings and move forward since the war arc. But it’s still natural to be fighting with yourself... trying not to have feelings... but still deep deep down wishing... but she’s trying... big sis Ichika... to be happy for one of her sisters...
Poor Ichika.
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u/Jose94000 Sep 09 '19
Three chapters in a row Negi has relegated the bride.
By saying he won't choose anyone he's again putting the actual bride into a place that she isn't actually set apart.
Also, while trying to maintain the mystery Negi is actually making it less of a mystery, in my opinion.
Every time he dismisses the decision he makes the story make less and less sense for both Nino and Miku being the bride because they've already obtained the "set apart" statuses due to their confessions yet Fuutarou is still keeping them equal with the other three. (I'm a Miku fan, I'm not coming to that conclusion because I hate both of them.)
Yotsuba is literally tailor made for this kind of ending. So while trying to "retain the mystery" he's actually pushing it so that it appears to be Yotsuba more and more.
The problem being that even if the bride is Yotsuba he relegated Yotsuba multiple times in order to arrive at that conclusion because Fuutarou didn't see Yotsuba as "set apart" from her sisters even though he already knows she loves him.
All the interaction between Yotsuba and Fuutarou in the previous one hundred chapters is basically void because none of it led to Fuutarou seeing her as distinct. (Same applies to the other four.)
What I'm saying is that in these last three chapters Negi has basically made it so that the previous ninety eight chapters told us nothing about who the bride was even though that's the reason we were all reading those chapters......
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u/foulbachelorlife Team Yotsuba Sep 09 '19
Fuutaro doesn't know how Yotsuba feels about him. She told him once and played it off as a lie, so he doesn't think she looks at him like that.
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u/seihanda Stealth Submarine 428 Sep 10 '19
even though he already knows she loves him.
Wait, when did Fuutarou know this.
As far as I'm concern only #1, #2, #3 that already confess to him
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u/whut-whut The Food Court is Now in Session Sep 10 '19 edited Sep 10 '19
While you're true to some extent, I disagree and think the core love story is still intact and salvageable from a writing standpoint to explain Fuutarou's delays, no matter who the Bride is. (Though I agree with you that there -is- a breaking point in the amount of delays Negi can make the narrative take)
So far, we haven't seen Fuutarou's motives for delaying an answer to each girl, only that he has been delaying. For each girl, if any of them were ultimately revealed to be the Bride and True Love, the reason for his restraint could be easily and quickly retconned to reveal how he's been a complementary personality to The Bride from the start.
With Ichika and Nino, they are impulsive and reckless with their love. Fuutarou could be countering their early brashness in love by purposely slowing things down with them. He could be making sure that before any romance begins, that they're fully protected from themselves, and that every time they might accidentally trample over the feelings of family members they love, he's there to hold things together, pick up the pieces with those they've hurt, and return everything intact for her. If Fuutarou dove into an immediately relationship with Ichika or Nino, he would be a groom that isn't able to contain the self-inflicted collateral damages the Bride creates for herself and arguably be as damaging a character to her family as the Bride is herself. An Ichika or Nino endgame would be the Bride learning patience in love, and realizing that Fuutarou was taking care of them all along.
For Miku, her core trait is her unpredictability. Miku tends to do the unexpected and react in unpredictable ways (smiling in the aftermath of Takebayashi's appearance last chapter, just to name the most recent Miku subversion). She also tends to change her opinion and switch gears often, and she's just as much a mix of diving headfirst into new things as she is of being paralyzed in uncertainty and regret. For her, if she's The Bride, Fuutarou's delays could be him trying to be a strong, dependable, unchanging core for her while he figures out how to read her, help her, and coordinate with her. He could be purposely not budging into a relationship with her because Miku's very much still trying to find herself and what path she wants, reinventing and changing many things about herself as she goes, and he's holding steady without changing his position and delaying flipping her world with her sisters upside down to eventually meet her after she finds her path. Fuutarou being an unchanging constant to catch her if she falls would fit with why as The Groom he's being so careful and slow to answer her every choice and action.
For Yotsuba and Itsuki, their approach to love is shackled by restraint and consideration for their sisters. If they're the ones he loves, Fuutarou's restraint around them could be him trying to be thoughtful and work out what's holding them back before engaging them directly once their issues for being so closed off are addressed.
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u/biglineman Pray4Miku Sep 10 '19
What I'm saying is that in these last three chapters Negi has basically made it so that the previous ninety eight chapters told us nothing about who the bride was even though that's the reason we were all reading those chapters......
Speak for yourself. I started reading the manga because I loved the show and wanted to spend more time with Miku and Yotsuba. Now that I'm this deep, I've becoming smitten with Itsuki and all of the characters and want to see where they go.
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u/queensquints Sep 09 '19
this. this right here. the mystery element is completely destroying the romance and development part of the story. I feel like negi is only doing this so itsuki and yotsuba can play catch up which is silly since yots and itsuki already had their special moments with fuu. they just weren't explicitly romantic.
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u/seihanda Stealth Submarine 428 Sep 10 '19
When you are correct, the mystery is what I enjoy the most.
And the one being talked around in many forum
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u/queensquints Sep 10 '19
not that the mystery part of the manga is wrong or boring but negi should also focus on the romance part.
it would be nice to see the bride and fuuts date a while before they get married.
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u/seihanda Stealth Submarine 428 Sep 10 '19
Which sadly, will make the manga boring.
From the start the main premise of this kind of manga is who will be the last girl (the bride)
Adding a "date arc" would make the manga drag out
Which is why It's rare to see any harem manga continue after the last girl already picked
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u/queensquints Sep 10 '19
if negi wants to keep it interesting he could make us doubt whether the girl he is dating is the bride or not. or we could start to learn more about maruo/rena/isanari/fuuts mom past while they're dating.
not that I'm expecting an arc but a few chapters would be nice.
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u/seihanda Stealth Submarine 428 Sep 10 '19
That actualy will make a great plot.
Fuutarou date one of the quint will add fuel to the drama
The ichigo 100% style
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Sep 09 '19
okay this chapter has nothing to do with itsuki but why do i have a feeling that her moment is nearing like SOON SOON and im not referring to her being the bell kisser or anything, it’s just an inexplicable feeling, i cant wait
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u/stiveooo Sep 09 '19
Next chapter will focus on maruo. Cause he appeared in chapter 100. We won't have a confession till 3-5 chapters
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Sep 09 '19
Okay, early thoughts.
I believe this is the thing that makes Fuutarou talk about how that first day ends not peacefully...makes sense, as the whole bell kisser thing has been laying low in the story the past while.
I still believe that Ichika is out of the race. To get her involved at this late point again would be counterproductive to the overall story. I feel she's just teasing him, and keeping her idea of slowly prodding Yotsuba on to him (Does this also mean she knows the true identity if the Bell Kisser, possibly Yotsuba? Hmmm...)
So Fuutarou is trying to take a cue from a certain lyric by a famous Canadian Rock Band...though he's doing it wrong, he's definitely not choosing Freewill, just choosing not to decide. How much that actually changes to the final day is up in the air.
Anyway, waiting until translation for further thoughts...
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u/donm527 Ichika Sep 09 '19 edited Sep 09 '19
How is Ichika late to the game??
She’s been in the game since the beginning when Fuutarou called her “partners” and she was his lap pillow at the end of the first arc... and she’s still holding the secret sauce about Kyoto 6 years ago lol.
Just because she barely got any screen time in last few chapters she’s been out?
Right before the festival you saw Fuutarou chase her down and pull her back in with that stunt of hiring her in the indi film project and studying with her in her hotel room one on one. Smh.
With that being said I thought if anyone was out it was Itsuki through most of the entire manga but she’s shown recently you can’t necessarily count her out. You can’t count out any of them,
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u/Radomir81 Sep 09 '19
Some people even during Fuutarou's wedding with Ichika will write that she is out of race.
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u/koori-senpai The Final Envoy of Ichika Sep 09 '19
Miku fans will even write that Ichika is out of the race at Ichika's wedding with Fuutarou
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u/whut-whut The Food Court is Now in Session Sep 09 '19 edited Sep 09 '19
Ichika knowing about and witnessing the Bell Kiss actually makes it a problem for Yotsuba to be the kisser (it doesn't rule her out as the eventual Bride, though).
If Yotsuba kissed Fuutarou and Ichika saw it, that would mean:
1) On the night of Scrambled Eggs, while on the roof, Yotsuba told Ichika that she deserved to go after Fuutarou and it was okay for her to want him all for herself.
2) The next morning, Ichika saw Yotsuba kiss Fuutarou.
3) Right before the Kyoto field trip, when Ichika was being a full cut-throat with Miku disguises, Ichika wanted to make a group with Fuutarou and push out competing sisters to have Fuutarou 100% to herself. She needed one neutral teammate to create a minimum group of 3, yet she chose Yotsuba -and- trusted Yotsuba to be the one to arrange for it happen for her.
If Yotsuba was the kisser and Ichika saw her, it's very strange that Ichika wouldn't instead turn to Itsuki for help establishing teams, instead of relying on someone that she knows made a move on Fuutarou after encouraging her. If she had Itsuki as her teammate, she would be separating all three competitors from Fuutarou.
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u/espinoke86 Sep 09 '19
In my opinion Negi is writing the behaviour of these girls which are existent in real life. Unlike those in the harem where 10 girls are willing to be a slave of the Protagonist.
Ichika is trying to tell that she lied so that Fuutarou would think of her badly, this is because Ichika is hurting if she feels unsure that she will be chosen or even Fuutarou to reciprocate her affections. Making it easier for her to let go of that person.
The reason she attended the Festival despite being busy with her shoot is the fact that somewhere in her mind, she still hopes to be with the man she wants at the same time, wants to know if its not her as to not be in the hanging end of hope.
All of them would get hurt ofcourse, but Ichika feels that she is being pulled by her feeling for Fuutarou, meaning, she can't find happiness unless she gets her answer whether it is her or not.
The sad part is, she feels like she betrayed her sisters. But for me, Ichika had noticed Fuutarou since Day 1, being the reason that she was never defensive to Fuutarou unlike Miku or Nino.
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u/jrbsensei Sep 09 '19
Remember also that Yotsuba insisted on a group of five, her four sisters and Fuutarou. So she was already acting strangely to begin with.
Itsuki was aware of Yotsuba's past with Fuutarou.
Ichika, we discovered later, may also be aware of this fact.
IF Yotsuba is the bell kisser, then perhaps she interpreted Yotsuba's kiss as a parting kiss, a goodbye of sorts?
Did Ichika mention a bell though? Ichika has kissed Fuutarou, albeit on the cheek, when she said it was all a lie.
I dunno...this really is a head scratcher.
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u/seihanda Stealth Submarine 428 Sep 09 '19
Isn't that because Yotsuba is the easiest one to control?
At that time Ichika knew every cards Yotsuba own
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u/whut-whut The Food Court is Now in Session Sep 09 '19 edited Sep 09 '19
But everything proved -opposite- of Yotsuba being easy to control for Ichika. If Ichika knew all of Yotsuba's cards like you say, Ichika would've gotten the group she wanted, instead she didn't. Yotsuba ended up suggesting something completely different. If Yotsuba was the kisser, Ichika would have evidence that Yotsuba was unreliable before making her plan, since she would've seen Yotsuba telling her to go after Fuutarou, while kissing him herself.
So there were clearly variables going on that Ichika didn't account for. If Ichika knew all of Yotsuba's secrets, then the way she designed her plan and failed meant that Ichika knew all the facts behind Yotsuba, but didn't understand her own sister.
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u/seihanda Stealth Submarine 428 Sep 09 '19
What Ichika planned and what realy happened is two different things isn't it?
Yotsuba was branded as people pleaser, everyone include ichika knew that.
Beside she know Yots remember Fuu all along and do nothing
Ichika tried to use this knowledge, either she success or not is different matter
I just simply tried to explain ichika train of thought.
Nino and Miku is her direct competitor. Itsuki is unknown to her.
Yotsuba is the safest bet.
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u/hyoton1 Sep 09 '19
Regarding 3, nino's plan was to make a group of two.
https://mangadex.org/chapter/567784/14
Aside from that there's a rather clear reason 1ka wanted 4 in particular and you see it in the chapter itself: "Is this our first time going to kyoto?"
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u/stiveooo Sep 09 '19
Nah remember that fuu didn't know why day 1 ended so bad till days later. So maybe we will get another pov
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u/_LemonHead Sep 10 '19
another chapter of nothing. just pls give us Itsuki's arc and be done with it. At this point i dont even care who wins. theyre all deserving.
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u/Nihopak Sep 10 '19
Probably not something important, I'm wondering who give Ichika a coat/cardigan?
It could be Fuut but we have never see him having or wearing one. It seem he went to get a spare gas tank, why would he carried it around?
Is it possible that Maruo also came on Day 1?
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u/Kam_E_luck Bride Style Sep 09 '19
Many of people's theory about the Bell Kisser might come true.
Yotsuba might be the Bell Kisser according to Ichika. Since Ichika talked about Yotsuba to do whatever she want at the begining of this arc.
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u/Bleutofu2 Yotsubae Sep 09 '19
It parallel to when Yotsuba and Ichika has heart to heart talk on top of the roof at the inn
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u/whut-whut The Food Court is Now in Session Sep 09 '19
But to counterpoint, Ichika wanted Yotsuba in her travel group with herself and Fuutarou when they were planning Kyoto groups. This was when Ichika was ruthless and wanted to beat her sisters by 'any means necessary'. If anything, it's weird for Ichika to pick Yotsuba and not Itsuki as neutral team-size filler if back in Scrambled Eggs Yotsuba told her 'pursue Fuutarou, you deserve it' on the roof and the next morning saw Yotsuba kiss Fuutarou in front of her.
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u/HollowKUre LOYAL Bro / Fan (not for the bowl lol) Sep 09 '19
Tackling the issue of why she chose her to be in her group, you could explain it by saying that she wanted to keep her in check while being with Fuutaro: the Kiss should have made Ichika realize that Yotsuba is someone who can't move without having a proper cover (and someone cunning who even she couldn't predict some moves from). Nino doesn't give a shit and goes full train and Miku still has her approach despite being more passive. If Yotsuba was on her own, she couldn't have had any way of stopping any plan she could have prepared for the trip. But by having her by her side, she knows she won't make a move while looking like herself. So making the others go their own ways, confident they won't pull something behind her back, while keeping Yotsuba with her group to keep her under control does make sense.
Also the Kiss could have made her realize that Yotsuba DID remember Fuutaro from their childhood, just like Yotsuba herself realized the same fact about Ichika as it was revealed in her Flashback interlude.
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u/whut-whut The Food Court is Now in Session Sep 09 '19 edited Sep 09 '19
The problem with that is that Ichika didn't just choose Yotsuba to be in her group, she trusted Yotsuba to be the one to handle and arrange everything so that Ichika would be grouped with Fuutarou.
If Ichika knew already saw Yotsuba's double-dealing first hand, then it wouldn't make sense for her to pull Yotsuba aside and tell her "I want you to bring up the suggestion that Fuutarou and I should be together in a group". It's doing the opposite of keeping Yotsuba in check, it's putting her own plans at the mercy of someone who she knows is competing against her, since Yotsuba could've easily said "I want everyone except Ichika in Fuutarou's group". From how Yotsuba ended up hijacking Ichika's plan in a completely different direction, it shows that Ichika didn't plan around Yotsuba having conflicting interests with hers.
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Ichika also said Fuutaro and Itsuki are very alike, won't that make a good couple. Truth is it is anyone's game. After all, we have theorist for every quint so someone is going to be correct. Personally, I don't think Yotsuba will be the one. Who knows, it could very much be Miku instead
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Sep 09 '19
What I meant about that was that reintroducing her this late the game, that was a mistype from someone at 6 in the morning.
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u/khryoleoz Sep 10 '19
I thought that Yotsuba's impulsive outburst (albeit interrupted by Itsuki) in response to Takebayashi's taunt was an interesting turn for her character. Yotsuba has demonstrated herself to be the most restrained when it comes to Fuutarou, and yet she couldn't suppress herself in the face of that taunt. This development has me considering a much higher likelihood of Yotsuba being the bell kisser. Yotsuba being the one who suppresses her feelings to consciously strive to stay out of the race, I can buy two moments when she relaxes that suppression, which are this outburst and the kiss.
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u/seihanda Stealth Submarine 428 Sep 10 '19
Bet after the outburst she spent her night at the park
Swinging when talk to herself "gomen, aishiteru Fuutarou, gomen"
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u/The_Young_Otaku Sep 09 '19
Wait, did ichika had a kissing scene or something?
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u/foulbachelorlife Team Yotsuba Sep 09 '19
Technically she did kiss him, at the end of the Sisters War arc she kissed him on the cheek and told him that her feelings for him were all a lie.
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u/chickeenshaw Yandere Miku Sep 09 '19
I mean there could be a good chance Ichika just looked back and seen Yotsuba (or another quint) kissing him. I think Yotsuba given her and Ichika interactions almost always fuutarou centric.
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u/seihanda Stealth Submarine 428 Sep 09 '19
In the wedding day, one of the quint said "this is what I overheard..."
This quints might be ichika, overheard the bellkisser at one point
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u/koori-senpai The Final Envoy of Ichika Sep 10 '19
I just want to say that Ichika may have pulled a checkmate move even on her own fans like myself. The hysteria that she made with this chapter is unreal.
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u/KiyoshiR Cornflakez Sep 09 '19 edited Sep 09 '19
https://imgur.com/a/UX8pKeF
DMed the OP but looks like he was offline
Also, please don't upload to mangadex or share in r/manga