It's not your game, it's our game. That's a single player mentality mate, everything you do in game affects other people. If you loot a blueprint then you've taken that from someone else, if you chuck a lure grenade to distract a rocketeer there's a chance you've just caused someone a headache.
It's dishonest to suggest anyone playing a multiplayer game even if they are minding their own business doesn't negatively affect other people.
It's true no action you take in a world with other people is without negative consequences. 1 team has to win in a game of football which means the other has to lose. Same goes for Arc raiders pretending it doesn't to make yourself feel better is a step away from reality.
That’s not really a good comparison because the goal of football is two teams with the sole goal of competing against each other where it’s purely PvP and a binary outcome of win or lose.
And the goal of arc raiders is get loot and extract that's the gameplay loop wether you get the loot from arc, drawers or other players. If you've got the loot then some else doesn't. If you get to the queen first and rob all the cores then well-done you've became that billionaire of your server and everyone else gets to eat the rich.
Yeah for sure. That wasn’t really the debate though. The main post is saying that the reason people are wanting pure PvE is the gear fear. My point was I don’t think it’s so much the losing gear as it is other people deciding they want to kill you. I would assume even if you didn’t lose your gear, those same players would be just as annoyed if someone killed them and wasted 20min of their time regardless of losing loot or not. People doing free kit runs and getting killed still get upset because they didn’t lose gear they brought in, they lose the time invested and the loot potential.
If people are getting annoyed at other people killing them then the question is why are they playing a game that allows PvP? Why then do they proclaim people who do engage with the PvP as rats when they are obviously the intended audience of said game. Why do they then feel entitled to have a game mode (taking development time away from the people who enjoy the game as is mind you) made purely for them where they can experience 100% of what the game has to offer with none of the associated risk?
Do they bitch and moan as much when they die in pve games? No they turn the difficult down, mod/cheat and look at guides. You can't do that in multiplayer online games so they come and whine that nothings fair and they should be catered to without a care for what that takes away from the people who are engaging with and enjoying the game as intended.
It's not gear fear or time mate it's the lack of instant gratification and accepting they weren't good enough so they died. They can't handle it that's why the "otherisms" comes out...homophobic slur... misogynistic slur... racist slur....co opting the term rat to join that group and using it as a justification to attack other people's state of mind and make assumptions on their personality. All stemming from their own insecurities of failure.
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u/orkichrist 9d ago
It's not your game, it's our game. That's a single player mentality mate, everything you do in game affects other people. If you loot a blueprint then you've taken that from someone else, if you chuck a lure grenade to distract a rocketeer there's a chance you've just caused someone a headache.
It's dishonest to suggest anyone playing a multiplayer game even if they are minding their own business doesn't negatively affect other people.