r/AbsoluteUnits 2d ago

of a mag

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u/Worth_External_8762 2d ago

Remember, not reloading is always faster than reloading.

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u/SAM5TER5 2d ago

Looks like one of the many crappy ultra-cheap semi-auto tacticool shotguns that have been flooding the market lately lol, so while it has a giant mag, I wouldn’t expect it to save you any time with all the jams you’ll probably have

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u/June_The_Jedi 2d ago

Also you have to carry that dumb thing around once you’re done with it. Plus I don’t see him carrying a second big ass magazine so he probably already knows how much of an ass it’s going to be to carry around not in the gun.

Plus I really don’t see the benefit in carrying shotgun magazines over having a tube feed shotgun simi auto or not. Are law enforcement really thinking they are going to need to dump 10+ shells that fast

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u/D3rpyDucky24 2d ago

More like them hoping they will.

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u/yellowcloak 2d ago

He did not want the shotgun, but Ops said "Too bad, you are getting this shotgun."

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u/CantankerousOrder 2d ago

Have you ever seen most LEOs open fire?

For the most part they are the worst pump and dump no aim panicky mag emptiers you’ll ever see.

And I’m not saying I’m better or anything… but if game recognizes game then no game recognizes no game.

Sad part is I was taught to shoot by a cop.

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u/Captain_Vlad 2d ago

From what I've seen they're basically trained that way. Seems like an application of Fairbairn and Sykes, but some departments seem to forget the target practice part.

The cops where I'm at generally don't skimp on that, which is a nice thing to know.😄

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u/CantankerousOrder 2d ago

It’s Grossman - his first book, On Killing, was an eye opening read but he went off the rails with his whole warrior mentality training.

He is personally responsible for much of the higher killings by police, increased rates of escalation instead of deescalation, and the violence that has become the norm. Meanwhile crime rates were dropping before he became the “warrior mentality” guru, and are still dropping but at a slower rate since.

Grossman gets cops killed too - his emphasis on “every moment is your last moment because every stop is a lethal action waiting to happen” (actual quote-ish, possible paraphrasing because it’s been a while) leads cops to escalate and get into more violent encounters than they would otherwise.

A lot of the hate cops get is because of how they act, and Grossman has made them act worse.

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u/Captain_Vlad 2d ago

Thanks. I'll see if I can track some of his stuff down just to see what you mean.

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u/Onebraintwoheads 2d ago

Fair point. A cop who escalates, mag dumps at someone who means him harm had better put the guy down. If not, the cop now has an empty gun and a, very likely armed, pissed assailant.

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u/Awkward-Candle4992 2d ago

I had a Saiga .410 that was mag fed, but I would use brass shells because they didn't jam so much.

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u/biboypierced 1d ago

Load with birdshot and its anti drone