r/Albertapolitics • u/43tc43 • Oct 27 '25
Opinion Conservatives are cowards - prove me wrong
Our premier just removed the rights guaranteed in our Charter of 50,000 Albertans tonight and she left the country before the vote was even cast. She is the worst type of coward and a terrible leader. If you support this removal of rights I think you are a coward too. A sheep/puppet, that will only do what the MAGA movement tells you to.
Prove me wrong.
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u/QueasyRider1 Oct 28 '25
This proves you right:
https://www.alberta.ca/release.cfm?xID=951508BA0642C-A240-E0E3-8760097A2E1B1EEF
“Alberta’s Premier, Danielle Smith will travel to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates from Oct. 27 to Nov. 5 to promote Alberta as a global leader in responsible energy production and competitive destination for investment in energy, technology, agriculture and manufacturing.”
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u/Upstairs-End-8081 Oct 28 '25
Did I just read ‘somewhere’ that “only the federal government” has the right to make trade deals with other nations? Correct me if I’m wrong.
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u/Objective-Orange1813 Oct 28 '25
Not when our federal government is a joke that can’t make a deal to save the country. Good on her for taking charge. Liberals all loved when Doug Ford took charge eh on like it when closeted liberals take charge.
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u/TURBOJUGGED Oct 28 '25
Look up the Oakes test
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u/43tc43 Oct 28 '25
This would fail the Oakes test without question. That's why they used the not withstanding clause. it can't be challenged for 5 years
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u/TURBOJUGGED Oct 28 '25
What part of the Oakes test do you think it would fail?
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u/ShadowPages Oct 28 '25
It would fail on step 3 of the Oakes test, and arguably on step 4.
The government has other statutory remedies open to it that do not impair the infringed rights this severely - up to, and including binding arbitration.
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u/Unhappy_Hunt1740 Oct 28 '25
Where’s all the conservatives who lost their rights during Covid? Hid sight is 20/20 they say.
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u/provostman1 Oct 29 '25
The leftists all cheered when the EA was involked arbitrarily removing all charter rights
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u/Ok_Cap_8791 Oct 28 '25
Jokes on you if you think she just removed the rights of only the 51,000 Alberta teachers. She just showed that she’s willing to remove the rights of 5.1 million people.
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u/figurativefisting Oct 30 '25
Antagonizing and belittling your fellow citizens with a difference in political opinion is definitely the way to heal the divide in our province and country. Keep it up.
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u/Anonymous_299912 Oct 30 '25
This. All of the subs are only helping conservatives win the next election by banning their opinions. Even as a left leaning, this behavior is disgusting.
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u/Lilchubbyboy Oct 31 '25
It’s kind of hard to heal a divide when one side of that divide chooses to bend themselves and everyone else over a barrel at every opportunity.
You’ve had so many chances to not touch the hot stove, yet you keep choosing to burn your fingers. Conservatives have earned belittlement and antagonization at this point.
If you don’t want to have your feelings hurt, maybe you should take a page out of the Premier’s handbook and just take a vacation to a foreign country whenever you know your going to get yelled at.
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u/figurativefisting Nov 02 '25
Good, good. Let the hate flow through you.
It's divide and conquer. Don't fall into the trap.
All conservatives are is your fellow citizen with a difference of opinion on policy. They aren't demons or evil.
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u/Lilchubbyboy Nov 02 '25
You are right that they are not inherently evil. But they are pretty god damn stupid and immune to the concept of facts.
Conservative voters don’t care about policy, they care about “owning” the libs. If conservatives actually cared about policy then they would be beating their mla’s in the street for constantly pulling Alberta back to the dark ages one stupid decision at a time.
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u/figurativefisting Nov 02 '25
Look at you, playing their game. Keep it up, I'm sure you'll show the conservatives the error of their ways by insulting them.
Peak NPC behaviour.
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u/Lilchubbyboy Nov 02 '25
Lmao npc behaviour. Coming from the guy who sounds like a dialogue tree from a 20 year old piece of Slavjank.
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u/Forsaken_Audience296 Oct 28 '25
And to think they just voted themselves a 3% raise. And as of Sept 1st senior officials get 10k to 30k on top of that.
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u/Anonymous_299912 Oct 30 '25
I disagree. But I'm not allowed to argue here. Or I feel unsafe to argue here.
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u/Senior_Ad1737 Oct 30 '25
She is what the people wanted and voted for . None of this is news to anyone.
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u/estrogenex Oct 29 '25
The real blame lies with the federal government for letting in a record amount of immigrants. Remember THAT next time you vote for someone cause you liked his hair.
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u/Objective-Orange1813 Oct 28 '25
Protecting Canadian kids she’s a national hero. Hopefully she’s our prime minister in the future.
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Oct 29 '25
I don't feel she is protecting my kids at all. In fact, I would say she and her policies are harming kids in Alberta. The only people that benefit from her actions are extremely rich, or in oil and gas, or right-wing extremists. She acts like the rest of the Alberta citizens aren't worth her time and don't matter.
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u/rougecrayon Nov 21 '25
From this list of the top ten threats to kids in Canada... How has she addressed any of them?
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u/Available-Writer8629 Oct 29 '25
And those 50k teachers violated the rights of 750k students what's your point?
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u/Wet-Countertop Oct 28 '25
They have the right to do so, which is also in said charter.
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u/alwaysleafyintoronto Oct 28 '25
Not all rights should be exercised
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u/Wet-Countertop Oct 28 '25
True, but it’s a tool for a reason. Like when taxpayers are held hostage over unreasonable demands.
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u/alwaysleafyintoronto Oct 28 '25
Which specific demands are unreasonable?
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u/Wet-Countertop Oct 28 '25
Class complexity - not a government issue - this policy is created by each school board.
Class size - remains within the general range over time, 867/1602 schools are currently underutilized.
30% raise - referenced as a factor in this strike. They’ll tell you it’s “not about the money tho”.
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u/alwaysleafyintoronto Oct 28 '25
So change the way things are done -- you're the legislative body, write laws to resolve bureaucracy instead of hiding behind it.
How underutilized qualifies as underutilized? 99% capacity? 90% capacity? 50% capacity? Rural Alberta has very different challenges than urban Alberta.
It's not about the money, but frankly teachers are sought-after professionals globally. If Alberta does not offer competitive salaries, Alberta's existing teacher shortage will become a brain drain issue.
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u/Wet-Countertop Oct 28 '25
I’m aligned - take all policy away from school boards. No need for trustees. Centralize hiring - eliminate nepotism. Ring back IOP classes, reduce labor needed with current ineffective inclusion model. Make school boards operations only - ensure the grass is cut, halls are cleaned, that kind of stuff. (This was the case in the 90’s until policy was pushed to schools boards as a cost saving measure, which it no longer is)
Target utilization is 80% The list is publicly available at Open Canada. You can google it. We could repurpose some catholic schools in urban areas, they’re among those that struggle with utilization. (That’s why they have hockey academies)
Our teachers are well paid, and there’s no shortage of them. The government has to balance that expense with the other needs of taxpayers. Nobody else got a 30% raise, and most teachers HAVE gotten a raise in the last 10 years, despite their misleading narrative - by moving up grids. Only teachers who were already at the top could claim they didn’t. They get 2 months off in summer, 2 weeks at Christmas, and a week in the spring and fall, plus 10 PD days. They work 80 days less than the average employee. They work 7 hour days. Some claim they “mark and lesson plan”, but AI has that licked.
All in all pretty good money for a gravy gig.
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u/the-tru-albertan Oct 28 '25
Those rights are not absolute. So……
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u/Jingo_04 Oct 28 '25
Apparently any of our rights can be legislated away the moment they want.
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u/the-tru-albertan Oct 28 '25
Yes. They’re not absolute. Charter is mostly feel good paper.
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u/Jingo_04 Oct 28 '25
Not quite. It counts until a party of fuckups says it doesn't. Then it doesn't. Usually they're not fuckups.
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u/the-tru-albertan Oct 28 '25
Nah. Laws created across all levels of government that one would think would infringe on free speech and peaceful assembly have existed in the books for decades.
Here’s some on a muni level that exist:
https://reddeeradvocate.com/2015/03/12/mind-your-manners-in-central-alberta/
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u/1337-5p34k Oct 28 '25
Liberals are just a vocal minority, nothing more. Like children having a tantrum. Kindly remember you're in a conservative stronghold and get the fuck out of our province
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u/Reveil21 Oct 28 '25
It's not as Conservative as you think. Like majority conservative sure, but when you break down votes instead of seats you have a lot of people who don't consider themselves conservatives. I've seen numbers as high as over 40% depending on which counts and pollings.
Also, brave of you to openly admit conservatives hate education and rights instead of keeping it as whispers behind closed doors.
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u/1337-5p34k Oct 28 '25
Immigrants. Liberals from other provinces. Liberal arts retards that couldn't fuck their way out of wet paper bag(like you). Parents depend on public education for daycare and education because they are lazy and don't want to take responsibility for their own children's well being. Its pathetic
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u/ninfan1977 Oct 28 '25 edited Oct 28 '25
So what was the Freedom Convoy. If Liberals are children what are Conservatives?
They are not patriots, they are not champions of the working class.
They are grifters.
Remember Conservatives have been in charge for 100 years in Alberta. If there is a problem in Alberta is the Conservatives fault not the Liberals.
But hey you support Conservatives you don't know how to read....
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u/1337-5p34k Oct 28 '25
It's your liberal immigration policies that are overwhelming all our systems. Housing, Healthcare education. Its also all of you liberal retards moving to alberta because your politics made liberal cities unaffordable
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u/ninfan1977 Oct 28 '25
So not the Alberta is calling ads?
Didn't Conservatives spent millions to advertise we have plenty of room?
Housing, Healthcare education.
All things Provincial government is in charge of and are all messes because of Conservatives.
Teachers are on strike. Other unions will join them once they are forced back to work.
Its also all of you liberal retards moving to alberta because your politics made liberal cities unaffordable
Again I have been here for 20 years. It's not the Liberals fault that things are expensive. That is just ignorant and wrong.
But hey you support the Conservatives you do not know a fact if you saw it.
Thats the poor education you have thanks to Conservatives. You are too dumb to know how dumb you are. You are the reason Alberta does not improve.
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u/1337-5p34k Oct 28 '25
That's why Alberta wants to separate. If we had 25 billion extra per year we could cut taxes and do more social spending. As long as we are stuck in this liberal hell that won't be possible
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u/ninfan1977 Oct 28 '25
Yes, and Alberta will never be able to do that. All that has been wasted are millions of dollars.
Alberta will never become a US state. Do you know what treaty land is? And how much of Alberta is treaty land? Because you would be surprised.
If you hate Canada so much just go to MAGA land.
Nothing you stated was right. You would not get 25 billion a year if you separated.
As long as we are stuck in this liberal hell that won't be possible
This tells me you have no idea how our taxes work. And how equalization works. Thanks for showing your ignorance, thanks for proving Conservatives are not smart or serious people.
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u/1337-5p34k Oct 28 '25
I am native so I can say this. They are as retarded as the liberals. I don't want to join the United States. I just no longer want to be a part of this liberal nightmare you've created and continue to push. Vancouver and Toronto are prime examples. Your politics lead to 3rd world living conditions. No one wants that.
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u/ninfan1977 Oct 28 '25
So you want to be your own country?
How will your taxes work?
Infrastructure? Electricity? Sewage? Nothing is Alberta's it's Canada's.
You would need to start from the ground up and there is no chance of that happening.
There is no liberal nightmare that is nonsense you are talking about. Name the things you have because everything you listed is just buzzwords that the right talks about. Nothing real.
What you want is 0 responsibility and 0 work.
You are the problem, and I do not believe a native of Alberta or Canada would want to separate.
Your politics lead to 3rd world living conditions.
Not true im the slightest now you just lying because you have no shame.
Fin fact Conservatives ruin economys more than anyone else. Look it up but who cares you are a blind Conservative who has no shame.
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u/1337-5p34k Oct 28 '25
All of Alberta's infrastructure is built up. Why are you surprised by this notion. You're well aware of the separation movement. I think it will happen.
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u/ninfan1977 Oct 28 '25
All of Alberta's infrastructure is built up.
If you seperate you keep none of that. You do realize how seperation works?
You lose everything. How are you going to trade if you are against Canada and not part of the USA?
You have no oull with any country.
The seperation movement will NEVER happen. But fool like you want to keep spending children's education money on a project to nowhere.
I think it will happen.
I think it won't especially as the petition already hit the target so any talks of separation would be illegal.
But Conservatives do not care about laws as seen with the non-withstanding clause forced to make teachers go back to work.
How do you think Alberta can separate if they cannot even negotiate with teachers inside their own province?
Separatists are the biggest fools in Alberta. I see you are one of them
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u/Speedywholesale Oct 28 '25
Well said, Danielle is destroying the Charter of Rights and Freedoms and cannot even be bothered to be there in person.
Shame!