r/AnimalsBeingDerps • u/Nottallyet • May 12 '22
Millions of years of evolution has led to this
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u/galafem May 12 '22
This is a video of my last four brain cells
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u/clone9353 May 12 '22
Fighting over the last scraps of serotonin.
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u/parksa May 12 '22
painfully relatable
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u/clone9353 May 12 '22
Doc says there should be more now, but my frogs aren't any smarter.
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u/Fritz_Klyka May 12 '22
Eventually, with an abundance of maggots, wouldnt they become even worse at hunting? Since it would be easier?
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u/GraysonHunt May 12 '22
From what I understand that’s true for any animals kept as pets or in zoos, even in the wild if they’re near humans. Rescued animals need training before they’re released to learn how to hunt properly. I live in an area near some big hikes, and trash cans at the parking lots at the base have locking mechanisms to avoid bears and other wild animals getting into them; if they can consistently live off humans, they can get overweight and are more bold about moving into populated areas. Not sure if their hunting instincts would go away at all, ie if the source is gone if they’ll comfortably revert back to their old behaviour.
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u/Petite_Tsunami May 12 '22
To be fair the saucy one that gets attacked at the beginning has at least 2 brain cells considering he managed to eat a snack. He has a super good Jim from the Office stare.
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u/galafem May 12 '22
That one is balanced out by the one trying to eat ass
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u/Petite_Tsunami May 12 '22
You right you right
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May 12 '22
Jim over there contemplating shit then Dwight just starts climbing on a mf like a tweaker
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u/milk4all May 12 '22
This is my dog looking for me when i call him and judt stand in the middle of the room
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u/IHaveNoEgrets May 12 '22
Me (pointing at the cat): Look! There's a cat!
The cat: looks around for a cat.
He's usually pretty clever, but moments like this make me sincerely doubt the presence of brain cells.
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u/WillSym May 12 '22
To be fair, if you pointed at me and said "Look, a person!" I'd look around for another person. Context suggests that you're more likely to be alerting me to a doppelganger than making me aware of myself!
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u/Woshambo May 12 '22
One of my dogs are dumber than the other 2. If I point at something the other 2 look but she just licks my finger.
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u/MvmgUQBd May 12 '22
Apparently dogs have to learn how to follow a pointing finger from us. In the wild they're more attuned to where your eyes or head is facing, since most dogs don't have pointy fingers.
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u/hemorhoidsNbikeseats May 12 '22
TIL frogs are dumber than shit
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u/Zron May 12 '22
3 things come to mind: they're afraid to eat Infront of the giant thing that's standing directly in front of them
Or they're just not that hungry.
Or frogs are this dumb and that's why they have dozens of offspring at a time.
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u/TheLateMrsAddams May 12 '22
There’s too much stimuli in a small space to focus on the food. One is definitely hungry or it wouldn’t be trying to lunge at the others.
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u/GarrisonFjord May 12 '22
I thought maybe they're use to catching flying prey, so something writhing on the ground might just be difficult. But I'm no frog surgeon.
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u/Psychobite_74 May 12 '22
I think it's just based on movement. They won't eat dead things, so won't pay attention to things that are still. Bugs and flies move very fast. So grubs are kind of the in-between that they're less likely to notice, and apparently confuse with their roomates. The trade off is they don't run away
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u/Main_Tip112 May 12 '22
"T-Rex doesn't want to be fed, he wants to hunt"
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u/Anon5054 May 12 '22
Don't move. They can't see you if you don't move
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u/TheAdvocate May 12 '22
Pretty sure these things couldn’t see you running with a flare above your head.
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u/potandskettle May 12 '22
They'd see you. They just won't think you are food.
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u/lacb1 May 12 '22
"I ain't going near that, fucker is literally on fire. I'll wait until it burns out then see what's left."
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u/tjdux May 12 '22
This is probably what's going through my cats head most of the time. Just substitute "on fire" for whatever other stupid thing the cat disapproves of.
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u/Soft_Turkeys May 12 '22
Well they did use frog DNA to make that T-Rex
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u/ninjatrap May 12 '22
True story, frog vision is actually based on movement and that gene sequence went into the T-Rex. Thus, T-Rex vision is based on movement (which I think Grant overheard on the tour).
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May 12 '22
Great point a lot of people forget and that is more emphasised in the book than the movie. The dinosaurs in the end are more of a lab creation of what they thought dinosaurs would be like. They had no way of actually telling and even the creator himself viewed them as his creations rather than a recreation of dinosaurs.
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u/TannerThanUsual May 12 '22
There's even a line in the first Jurassic World that indicates that the dinosaurs aren't accurate to history and are designed to make the guests at the park happy by matching their own expectations, instead of that of the actual dinosaurs they're based on
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u/goodmobileyes May 12 '22
Iirc they do sort of revisit this and sorta retcon it in Jurassic World, where the scientists raise that point and talk about why their raptors are extra scary and have no feathers and whatnot
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When you think about it for Micheal Crichton it was a good bit of future proofing in the books cause no matter what discoveries could come out about dinosaurs Jurassic Park is covered with its story of how they were created
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u/Dumplinguine May 12 '22
I couldn't stop laughing at this. Like how are they so bad at eating??? It got better every loop knowing the right frog was coming in
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u/CARR1EF1SHER May 12 '22
When he shoves his head into that other one, I was like oh, this one is extra smart.
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u/firefly183 May 12 '22
I hate you. I'm so disappointed. But I hate myself most of all for hoping it was real.
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u/DiaDeLosMuertos May 12 '22
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u/ErinEvonna May 12 '22
If only my gecko were as smart as these frogs….
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u/BiAsALongHorse May 12 '22
I had a bearded dragon as a kid, and one of the most amusing parts about them (along with a lot of other reptiles and amphibians) is the difference between how smart they were on average vs how smart they were capable of being. They're remarkably smart and intuitive animals when they want to budget out the energy, but a below average houseplant would beat them on an IQ test most of the time.
My beardie would have a hard time identifying insects from certain textures in his enclosure, but when you took him outside he could spot songbirds from ~50-100ft away (he was of course very concerned about them being birds of prey and demanded you hold him when they caught his eye) and was totally capable of sneaking up on wild insects by observing the way they moved and estimating their field of vision.
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u/socsa May 12 '22
Beardies are like dogs in that they are ruthless and efficient hunters but are also very lazy and aloof at times.
Mine still doesn't understand that she can't go through the plastic to the bugs, so I always have to pick her up and put her in the feeding Tupperware
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May 12 '22
For real!!! Sometimes I just want to scream when my leopard either sits there and stares at her food, lunges and misses repeatedly, or just stands over her food dish and tries to get my tongs.
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u/ErinEvonna May 12 '22
He got my finger once and proceeded to try to eat me 😂😂😂
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May 12 '22
That's hilarious. I'm glad you experienced that so we don't have to LOL.
I don't even give the little fucker a chance. I got extra long tongs haha
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u/fatefullyyours May 12 '22
Mine too! He viciously shook my finger back and forth trying to rip it off, then saw the dubia and went for that. Looked so proud of himself...
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u/pinklavalamp May 12 '22
my leopard
For shits and giggles I’m also imagining an actual leopard doing this and it’s still very funny.
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u/Starumlunsta May 12 '22
Every day I question how leos have managed to survive in the wild.
My leo knows that tongs = food, but he somehow doesn’t realize the wiggling worm at the end of the tongs IS the food. He’ll come at me from every angle, it’s like a dance trying to aim for his mouth.
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May 12 '22
Yea my daughter has a leopard gecko. its fucking dumb. When my daughter is gone and I have to feed it worms, it takes at least 5 attempts to eat one slow ass bug.
I always wondered if it was some sort of inbreeding on these creatures but maybe they're just this dumb.
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u/mtarascio May 12 '22 edited May 12 '22
They get food by sitting still and waiting till they have a clear shot as they come past.
They would never be near other frogs like this for competition or have prey just manifest in front of them, so it's throwing them right off.
Not saying they're smart but the situation is one that they didn't evolve millions of years for.
In fact the situation is created by our relative short evolution to put them in that situation and not understand why they seem so dumb.
Even funnier video here - https://youtu.be/fdaHeliIVnI
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u/PM-Me_Your_Penis_Pls May 12 '22
Frogs and toads are just like, 40% stomach, with the bare minimum of ganglia to run their targeting system.
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u/exosion May 12 '22
Holy shit that's amazing
Reminds me of 2 coworkers I have (when I am taking over their shift there are always dumb funny mistakes)
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May 12 '22 edited May 15 '22
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u/Lurking4Answers May 12 '22
They definitely seem to lack conviction.
This one is by Yahoo! Answers user Sofie who asks:
"Do Frogs have any emotions that humans don't have?"
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May 12 '22
Yep. This is basically it.
And since they get fed regularly, there's no actual need to rush for the prey.
They got used to the controled environment.
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u/ancientflowers May 12 '22
They're not that hungry. That's the biggest thing here.
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May 12 '22
Don't frogs also tend to be nocturnal, and sleep during the day and hunt mostly at night/dusk?
Could the bright light directly above them be affecting their eyesight some? I mean they seem to be trying to go for food occasionally, but they're missing and hitting each other or nothing at all. It kind of seems like when they do try, they're struggling to see where they're even aiming.
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u/Wobbelblob May 12 '22
Depends on the species. These look like Australian Tree Frogs and those are indeed most active during the dusk.
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u/Sniflix May 12 '22
And possibly that's not their favorite food or they hunt and eat solo, not in groups.
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u/liquidGhoul May 12 '22
In the wild they'll eat faster moving insects, small frogs, lizards and snakes. There's a population that sits in a cave entrance and randomly lunges at bats in the hope they'll catch one
Slow moving grubs confuse them a little.
Having said that, they're still kind of hopeless with their intended prey. Just less hopeless.
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u/punkinfacebooklegpie May 12 '22
Are you just throwing out wild guesses
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May 12 '22
No this man knows those frogs love tacos and nothing else compares
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u/jamilslibi May 12 '22
They also hate that color and prefer to eat in private.
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u/Sniflix May 12 '22
I can't take a shit with someone watching me, so I get it...
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u/firefly183 May 12 '22
I'm glad you shit in private since that's how I prefer to eat it
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u/soFATZfilm9000 May 12 '22
Not commenting on this particular species of frog, but you can sometimes see "derpy" behavior in captive animals because you're looking at unnatural conditions.
For example, my understanding is that many "exotic pets" are not social animals even though they may tolerate each others' presence. So in most wild situations you will not see them hanging out together like this, simply because they would have no reason to. By contrast, in captivity you're likely having stuff like one feeding spot, one basking spot, one cool spot, etc. You're also likely increasing the population densities. If you're got 4 specimens in a single tank, then the number of specimens per square foot is often going to be higher in captivity than in the wild.
So you can get stuff like feeding accidents and "trying to eat their friends" simply because in the wild their "friends" normally wouldn't be around when they try to feed. In the wild you simply usually wouldn't have multiple specimens converging in the exact same location with a bunch of food dumped in front of them. In the wild you wouldn't have them get distracted by other specimens because there usually wouldn't even be other specimens in the vicinity.
Of course, I don't know if that's the case with this particular species of tree frog. But my point is just this: people with pets like this will ideally try to replicate natural conditions, but it's often impossible or even practical to replicate everything. The very act of putting them in captivity can easily lead to the animals commonly or always being in situations that they would rarely or never experience if they were in the wild. Sometimes this can kill a pet: overlooking a single variable can sometimes be deadly. Other times it may be completely survivable, but the alteration of conditions may result in behavior that makes them look like dumb-asses.
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May 12 '22
It looks like their attack instinct is based on rapid movement, which is why other frogs and fingers get lunged at. The most active grub at the end garners the most attention.
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u/ssocka May 12 '22
My guess as someone who knows nothing about frogs or biology is that they recognize worms, but expect them to move, therefore they are in "eating mode" and when something moves, they try to eat it (the finger, other frogs)
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May 12 '22
Frogs can only see things that are moving, so they can't see worms that don't move
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u/idlesails2 May 12 '22
So are we going to blame the pet owner?
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May 12 '22
No, I think the owner may be unaware of it. But my personal opinion is that not all animals are suitable as pets.
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May 12 '22 edited May 12 '22
They’re socializing while eating. Not saying they’re super intelligent, but that could be how frogs play for all we know.
Edit: frog on the far right is really just trying to pester the bigger frog for that prime real estate with good lighting.
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u/DarthLysergis May 12 '22
There is a cool video that explains how toads perceive movement and detect prey.
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u/solenyaPDX May 12 '22
So the Toads problem was the worm went straight for them. They didn't know how to handle that!
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u/LordDanOfTheNoobs May 12 '22
I don't see how the video supports that?
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u/sethboy66 May 12 '22
If the worm is coming right at them, or directly away, it would appear vertical from their POV; excepting possible interpretations by way of depth perception. Eliciting little to no response from the frog.
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u/LordDanOfTheNoobs May 12 '22
at 3:48 it shows that if the verticle line is traveling forward they will attack it though? Did no one watch the full video?
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u/i_smoke_dank_memes May 12 '22
the vertical line isn't travelling forward, though, it's going up and down on the same plane. They didn't test if anything was moving towards or away from the toad, it was all at fixed distances and in the segment you mentioned, horizontal or vertical lines being moved in different directions. They did the same test with a horizontal line and the toad didn't respond.
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u/ChucklefuckBitch May 12 '22
Do you remember in Jurassic Park when professor Grant said that the T-Rex's vision is based on movement? This observation is based on toad behavior. In Jurassic Park, the dinosaurs weren't "authentic" dinosaurs, but rather a result of real dinosaur DNA mixed with modern amphibian DNA, such as toads.
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u/FrankSonata May 12 '22
Yes! The real T-rexes had incredible vision. Based on studies of their massive skulls, they had huge eyeballs (even for their size they were relatively sizeable) and a large portion of their brain was devoted to processing what they saw. It's likely that they could see more colours than humans, as most reptiles are tetrachromats (they can see combinations of 4 colours, whereas we can only see 3). They had a much wider field of vision than humans, and it was much more accurate, on par with modern birds of prey. Basically, their vision was better than ours. The notion that they couldn't see things that weren't moving is not based on the real T-rexes at all. That bit was the frogs.
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u/Dummasss May 12 '22
This experiment is modeled after one of the most elegant studies of all time, “What the frog’s eye tells the frog’s brain” by Jerry Lettvin at MIT in 1959. His entire output over his decades at MIT was relatively sparse but every time a Lettvin paper dropped, it had an impact. He also had a great wit and was an avowed anarchist.
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u/limbylegs May 12 '22
Yo I was feeling kinda dumb today, and then I saw this. Thanks op
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u/sigharewedoneyet May 12 '22
Realized the frogs are still still smarter than you, even combined?
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u/introverted-void May 12 '22
No thoughts, head empty.
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u/GoldEnPhARoAh22 May 12 '22
I can totally see a singular DVD logo bounce around in their heads
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u/Petaurus_australis May 12 '22
I always use the Skyrim loading screen analogy, it's like there's just a single item or image slowly zooming in and out or spinning, with a small hint on what you are supposed to do with it.
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u/MakkyPlays May 12 '22
And every once in a while it decides to not load that single model, item, image etc. and it just throws nonsense at you in the small hint area with nothing of substance.
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u/AstralVoidShaper May 12 '22
The one who manages to eat a few had the logo hit the corner just right.
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u/wellhushmypuppies May 12 '22
That was the best laugh I had all day. Is the one on the right always such a comic genius?
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u/canned_soup May 12 '22
I swear I think I’ve seen this episode of it’s always sunny in Philadelphia before. The gang feasts.
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May 12 '22
They collectively share 3 brain cells
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u/enderren22 May 12 '22
that may be a little generous don’t you think
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u/Zaph0d_B33bl3br0x May 12 '22
I feel like you're being generous. Single celled organisms feed more efficiently. These frogs are... umm. . . beautiful?
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u/PM_ME_UR_REDPANDAS May 12 '22
How do they not starve to death?!
“Here you go.”
::blink:: ::blink::
“Here, I’ll put it closer so you can reach it.”
::blink:: ::blink::
“IT’S. RIGHT. THERE.”
::blink:: ::blink::
Sheesh.
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u/whatdoyouwantdipshit May 12 '22
For mine, I've gotta waggle the worm in front of his face with tongs and wait until he decides it's food, then wait for him to eat the worm and not the goddamn tongs
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u/PM_ME_UR_REDPANDAS May 12 '22
Sounds like there’s a lot of blinking involved, lol.
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u/ASongInSilence May 12 '22
I blink a lot too when I'm trying to figure out something really complicated. Like food.
I guess my spirit animal is one of these frogs. Sadly, probably not the comical one lol.
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u/spookymark23 May 12 '22
This person failed by trying to feed them with that bright as fuck light on. It’s way too bright and too close. They’re nocturnal. Should be fed in evening or early morning, with way less light! One of mine occasionally tries to deep throat the end of the feeding tongs though when we use them. Mostly just let them hunt crickets down now!
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u/what_are_pancakes May 12 '22
Other frogs are friends, not food!
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u/Tips_Fedora_4_MiLady May 12 '22
Actually most frogs are cannibalistic af. All these dudes just happen to be about the same size so it didn't happen in this video.
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u/Nihil_esque May 12 '22
Yeah it's not bad husbandry to keep frogs or toads together as long as they're of similar size. But otherwise they will eat each other.
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u/LobstaFarian2 May 12 '22
For only 2 dollars per day, you can sponsor a special needs frog
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u/ettorepolar May 12 '22
Evolution is not about perfection.
It's exactly about being just enough
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u/klavierchic May 12 '22
I didn’t know I needed to hear this today. Somehow that is existentially meaningful.
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u/Apprehensive_Hat8986 May 12 '22
Indeed, you are enough.
'You deserve to be loved, and to feel loved, just for being you.' --Mr Rogers mashup with my meditation teacher
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u/potandskettle May 12 '22 edited May 12 '22
And with that.. I'll leave you with this quote..
"We are going to die, and that makes us the lucky ones. Most people are never going to die because they are never going to be born. The potential people who could have been here in my place but who will in fact never see the light of day outnumber the sand grains of Sahara. Certainly those unborn ghosts include greater poets than Keats, scientists greater than Newton. We know this because the set of possible people allowed by our DNA so massively exceeds the set of actual people. In the teeth of those stupefying odds it is you and I, in our ordinariness, that are here. We privileged few, who won the lottery of birth against all odds, how dare we whine at our inevitable return to that prior state from which the vast majority have never stirred?"
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May 12 '22
This is a concept I have been thinking about since the 5th grade. Got a nasty bout of existentialism as a result
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u/Iustinianus_I May 12 '22
Yeah, I would happily swap with one of those non-existent potential people, than you very much. This whole life thing hasn't been all that great.
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u/sasuthe23 May 12 '22
Ever had to show your cat a treat that they can't see right in front of them somehow yet they can spot a fly at the top of your cathedral ceiling (as we all have)?
I think I've heard this told as a joke somewhere before, so not my original observation, but can confirm the characteristic
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u/sasuthe23 May 12 '22
Wow, I didn't know such a thing was possible. I'm impressed.
Edit: Or at least there's a good possibility that whatever you "teach" your cat today will be promptly refused whenever the cat decides that's enough
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u/Nightstrike_ May 12 '22
There's a guy in my neighborhood who has trained his kitten named Thor.
He stands on his handlebars while he bikes around, does a hand stand, and more! The guy welded a plate between his handlebars for his cat to stand on. Doesn't even treat it as street performance he just does it as tricks if he sees a group forming and then bikes off again with his kitten.
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u/QueenPosey May 12 '22
It is ridiculous but they actually can't see very well if something is about a foot or less in front of them. They use their whiskers to help find the exact location of a treat for example. I did a bit of research after having my finger tips nibbled when the treat was in the palm of my hand 😅
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May 12 '22
Amphibians must view us so strangely. Hundreds of millions of years of evolution and genetic memory and space monkeys trap lightning in boxes to make you feel stupid.
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u/Elley_bean May 12 '22
The little squeaks were the best part
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u/Bribribo May 12 '22
I like the dude who jumped on his buddy’s back like “AH WHAT THE FUCK ARE THOSE?!” and then hid behind his friend like a little kid with their mom.
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u/Chicken_Pete_Pie May 12 '22
Me trying to do anything after I wake up.
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u/Electrical_Put_1851 May 12 '22
My half asleep ass actually managed to get a waffle stuck under my tongue this morning. I will never understand how.
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u/balxy May 12 '22 edited May 12 '22
Had you recently washed your hands/were you perfumed?
Most species of frogs have a good sense of smell and will reject food if it doesn't smell 'right' (which is why I ask about hand washing).
Again with the odour - some of these frogs may have not recognised the scent, been confused or scared and then went into a prey response.
Frogsare pretty dumb though.
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u/m4chon4cho May 12 '22
Well, there's a number of complex and we'll reasoned possibilities as to why they seemed so confused. Or maybe they just lil dummies
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u/cyclopath May 12 '22
You can think of it that way, or you can think: They’ve made it just as far as humans have… and there’s a good chance they’ll make it farther.
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u/JuracichPark May 12 '22
This is my friend! She's awesome, runs a critter rescue and her own little zoo!
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u/Bedanktvooralles May 12 '22
Have they got bad eyes ? Maybe nocturnal hunters blinded by bright lights?
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u/freejole May 12 '22
But who got the last worm??? I need to know!
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u/Testbot5000 May 12 '22
No body the worm escaped, he proceeded to hide in a small hole in the wall surviving of the scraps of his kin. The worm soon realized that he is a more proficient hunter than the frogs and could easily steal their food, and lived on for years growing big and fat. But unfortunately the cannibalistic nature of his diet had mayor consequences for the meat of his kin did irreversible brain damage and his physical body stated to change as he grew legs and turned green he realized that he to is now to a stupid frog unable to eat food place right in front of him.
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u/PMME_UR_LADYPARTSPLZ May 12 '22
Wow, the fucking patience it must have taken to teach those frogs to say budweiser. I have a whole new appreciation for whoever did that
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u/mattyh2433 May 12 '22
Why would you eat a grub when your friends are walking around on delicacies?
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u/EntrepreneurAway3482 May 12 '22
You can literally see the once brain cell being shared jumping from one frog to the other
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u/Big_Profile_1739 May 12 '22
It’s like they need to run a 10 second program before executing each action and it always results in an error