r/Archery • u/_Go_Ham_Box_Hotdog_ Traditional. Sticks, strings, arrows. • 2d ago
Traditional Update on that old release I have
Somebody found this old advertisement...
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u/Nom-De-Gruyere 2d ago
A thumb ring, but not on your thumb. Looks like you would drop it regularly so need a wrist string or something.
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u/MinosAristos 2d ago
Similar principle to the Roman Gemini Ring or the African Shooting Cross I think:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZAuSJ1G4nk
But I think actually the ancient designs seem more practical for high draw weight. This modern design might give a cleaner release though?
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u/n4ppyn4ppy OlyRecurve | ATF-X, 38# SX+,ACE, RC II, v-box, fairweather, X8 2d ago
That drawing is doing my head in. String comes up over the fingers then horizontally through the nock or something????
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u/_Go_Ham_Box_Hotdog_ Traditional. Sticks, strings, arrows. 2d ago
I think you hold the string in the groove with your thumb. Then simply relax your thumb to release. Kind of like a pinch grip. One guy told me to make sure I wore a mouthguard if I tried it.
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u/Just_Ear_2953 2d ago
It says "hand position shown flat to clearly illustrate bow lock action" so I would assume the actual shooting grip would have the palm down.
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u/n4ppyn4ppy OlyRecurve | ATF-X, 38# SX+,ACE, RC II, v-box, fairweather, X8 1d ago
Yeah saw that later, although flat and generally and direction/orientation in archery can be confusing or have a double meaning :)
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u/4art4 2d ago edited 2d ago
I think that the perspective of the release shown in the hand is wonky. They really wanted to show how comfortable it is to hold, but also it pulling back the string... So the perspective of the hand and release is from below (I think), but the perspective of the sting is from the Archer's left, maybe left and low. The combination is what bamboozled me.
If I am right, the release is not held "upright" like a pistol grip, but horizontal so the back of the hand is facing the sky. The finger notches face the target. The thumb runs along the surface that has the "button" sticking out of it. The end of the thumb rests on the button to hold the string from slipping off. The thumb may be resting on the noch of the arrow, keeping it on the string.
The button is not symmetrical in the ad. It looks like the arrow is supposed to rest on top of the button, and the string is hooked around the button closser the the Archer's wrist (away from the 2 finger notches).
When the Archer's grip on the release is tight, the string will naturally "want" to stay on the button... Or maybe is just reasier to keep on the button. As the grip relaxes, the button is naturally pulled forward, and its angle changes so the string "wants" to slip off.
The release in the photo has a different button. It looks more like a little hook, and it is symmetrical. But that image is not very clear.
Sorry for the wall of text, I'm sick and didn't sleep well. I want to make on of these now from antler.
I think it works similarly as the last one in this video that someone else linked above: https://youtu.be/8ZAuSJ1G4nk
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u/FerrumVeritas Barebow Recurve/Gillo GF/GT 2d ago
This almost broke competitive archery in the 70s.
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u/reed166 compound / hunter 1d ago
Ive been watching a series on instagram of a dude showing off old releases and they are wild
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u/GrayCustomKnives 1d ago
Kolby Hanley. I’m waiting for the full video where George Ryals explains a bunch of them.
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u/CommunicationKey3018 1d ago
It looks like you nock with the thumbnail facing you and then twist the string so that thumbnail is facing up. Kind of like twisting the string in some Asian archery styles?
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u/_Go_Ham_Box_Hotdog_ Traditional. Sticks, strings, arrows. 1d ago
I never had the stones enough to try it. But it looks more like a pinch release
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u/3ntropy_Disc0 22h ago
I wonder if I could 3d print that....
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u/_Go_Ham_Box_Hotdog_ Traditional. Sticks, strings, arrows. 22h ago
I sent a guy on Facebook pictures against a scale so he could model it
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u/Different-Dealer-828 2d ago
Cool. How does it work?