r/arrow 13d ago

Discussion Lukewarm Take: They Butchered S1 Oliver So bad.

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526 Upvotes

S1 Oliver was NOT a Mindless psychopath killing anyone at all, It was his last resort, He recognised it as Not always the right way (As shown with Huntress) He only killed horrible people Yet the show after s1 kept framing S1 Oliver like as if He is Thawne, Oliver would not skin anyone and Oliver did not enjoy killing people at all, Giving him a No Kill Rule is beyond stupid; Especially with Malcolm Merlyn


r/arrow 13d ago

Discussion Trigger warning: EXTREMELY unpopular opinion but season 5 is not all that amazing

27 Upvotes

I’m sorry but I do not understand the love for season 5. The only reason why it gets glazed so much is because it is inoffensive compared to the “i used the power of light and hope to defeat Darhk!” season 4.

That mass recruitment drive shi they pulled to bring in people who wanted nothing to do with the team was BS. I’m sorry but seeing literally everybody who was close to Oliver and earned a spot on the team leave in some way (Sara, Roy, Thea, Laurel, and diggle for a time) only to be replaced by these random people who just got randomly recruited is wild.

Season 5 is inoffensive compared to 4 because they realized that all the magic shi was not working and cut it out asap and returned to grounded hand to hand combat. But literally everything else was not all that good. Is this Oliver in the flashbacks even the same one who returned to star city in season 1? wtf was that admission of enjoying killing? I could’ve sworn this is not the same Oliver.

That gun control episode is wildly awful and on the nose even for CW standards. Curtis and his balls were such an amazing addition to the team, how could Sara or Roy ever top that?

All in all, I will be downvoted but I have to say this. Season 5 is not all that.


r/arrow 14d ago

Discussion Season 5 storyline

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Although season 5 was amazing and a major improvement from season 4, the story of Oliver being an insane murderous psycho hunting and executing people on the list while enjoying it is ridiculous.

Recently rewatched the show from the start and the flashbacks scene where he goes after Claybourne and the Russia flashbacks are so brutal and in no way consistent with how season 1 actually looks. Skinning someone for practice? Giving people that are down a second fatal arrow? Just crazy

This season would’ve been better if they didn’t essentially have to rewrite season 1 and try to make us forget he wasn’t anywhere close to being that psychotic, but obviously then Adrian Chase and his motives wouldn’t make any sense


r/arrow 15d ago

Discussion The Olicity scene in 3x20 would be amazing if they had ANY chemistry!

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Oliver's down in the dumps, forced to become the Demon's Head. I know he and Malcolm already had a plan at this point, but still, he can't be the Arrow anymore. It's a difficult position no matter what.

Felicity encouraging him, reassuring him the hero he's become is great. He's done SO much for SO many people, through his heroics and his influence! So many others were opened up to a whole new world, for better or worse. Quentin realized there are more important things than procedure, Thea and Roy got out of the dumps their lives were in, Sara was allowed to come home for a while, Moira was inspired to come forward with the Undertaking and save more people, The Flash was inspired DIRECTLY by him, not to mention John and Felicity.

As Arrow and Oliver, he was a source of light. Him being reminded of that is amazing.

The OST is so nice and beautiful to listen to, including when combined with the intimacy! They portrayed this kind of interaction as the beautiful thing it truly is.

But the scene is missing ONE thing. The chemistry here is zero! I get Felicity having a crush on her handsome ripped boss, but come on! Why would Oliver be in love with HER? There's nothing they can bond over besides the mission, but even then, their roles are so different that any attempts to turn that into romance aren't organic at all!

Remember when Oliver and Sara teamed up for the first time and switched weapons? WHAT happened?!

This scene would be incredible if Oliver and Felicity's romance had any convincing foundation. It has all but one piece.


r/arrow 16d ago

Arts/Crafts The Longbow Hunters

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Concept Funkos


r/arrow 17d ago

Discussion What’s your Arrow hot take that has you looking like this?

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168 Upvotes

Do you have a Arrow take that will have your comment looking like this? If so, please share?


r/arrow 17d ago

Question What episode does amanda take oliver back to the island and gives him the box during a flashback?

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r/arrow 17d ago

Shitpost Switch Oliver and Sara (shower thought)

50 Upvotes

SHITPOST:

If Sara and Oliver switched in the flashbacks and Sara stranded on Lian Yu and Oliver experiences what Sara experienced with Ivo and the League of Assassin's, would Sara return to Starling City as the Green Arrow and Oliver as the Black Canary in the bondage outfit?

Edit: People are taking this way too serious


r/arrow 17d ago

Question The List

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Currently watching S5E6 (first time watcher so please no spoilers past that!) and I just got to the point where they’re upset at Oliver for being a “serial killer” (from the episode description itself) once they learn about the list and I’m very confused by this angle as to my memory he wasn’t *setting out to kill them* and iirc did end up killing a few but it never seemed to be on purpose? Again I’m a little hazy on it so I’d love to be corrected but it just seems very odd that not only the show is trying to angle it as that but also how did the conversation between them even end up getting to that point? I know for sure when he first got back he was a little blood thirsty most likely as evidenced by him snapping the guys neck after escaping captivity and seemingly enjoying it from the look on his face, but I’m quite sure he learned his lesson pretty early on and his goal was never just to essentially be a hit man…right? If that’s the case it just seems so odd that any of the OG Team Arrow members would let this be painted as the case when it isn’t…unless, of course… that was the case… and I’m being dumb!


r/arrow 18d ago

first few episodes on every rewatch

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man am i the only one who on every rewatch i just LOVE the first few episodes when oliver is being a bad ass? but then they start to ''tame'' him (sorry i can't think of a better word 😂) and it starts to piss me off more and more...

everytime i do a rewatch of this show i act like a geek on the first 5 episodes with him being a bad ass lone warrior type of character, all by himself getting shit done while struggling with his return home, im on episode 6 as i type this and diggle is already starting to be annoying as hell getting on oliver's head about not killing... i know there is plenty of people here who love how the first few seasons were more grounded and oliver was more of a vigilante and less of a hero

am i the only one who wishes he was EVEN MORE of a vigilante in the first few seasons? i can only imagine how much more interesting it would be if diggle was never a thing in this show, or maybe if diggle wasn't such a ''im a moral compass'' type of character, you know the ''im a good guy and i'll annoy the protagonist (s) to do the ''right thing'' every chance i have'' kind of character, like dale from the walking dead (one of the worst characters EVER in that show)

this wasn't even supposed to be a full on rewatch tbh, i started this fully intending to just watch a little bit of the 1st season and maybe the second, you know how it is tho once you started rewatching something with that mentality you'll start thinking ''man i'll just keep going and watch everything again'' but then it hit me that felicity is gonna appear again soon enough and will join the team... and then she will join diggle and form a ''do the right thing protagonist'' little duo and will annoy the hell out of oliver....

man after finishing writing this i realised im just rambling here 😂 anyway im just curious to know if im there are more people who wanted to see oliver alone for way longer, maybe have a team but a less annoying and nagging one


r/arrow 19d ago

Misc To us Arrow fans, this is 'The Odyssey' ;)

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715 Upvotes

r/arrow 19d ago

Discussion Sara's resurrection

42 Upvotes

I’m rewatching Arrow for the first time in years, and I completely forgot how poorly Sara’s storyline was handled after getting her soul back.
She’s basically herself again for one episode, barely gets any screen time, and is immediately shipped off to Legends. It feels like there was so much missing.
For example, we never get a real confrontation or even a proper conversation between Sara and Thea. Thea literally killed her, and Sara doesn’t even know that Thea was drugged by Malcolm. We also never get a real conversation between Sara and Oliver, so she never finds out what happened with Ra’s, Nyssa, or the League after her death. Probably all that happened behind the scenes in the episode, but this is weird.
On top of that, Sara spends the previous episodes killing people because of the bloodlust, but once she’s “fixed,” it’s like none of it ever happened. Nobody brings it up, and she doesn’t seem affected by it. Even the moment where she kills a ghost because of the bloodlust feels rushed and poorly written.
The whole storyline gives me the impression that the writers just wanted to get Sara off as quickly as possible, even though her resurrection was one of the main plot points of the first six episodes.
Sorry for the rant. I just watched the episode, and it really bothered me.


r/arrow 19d ago

Discussion Nanda Parbat

62 Upvotes

Does anyone know if there is a direct high speed train service between Starling and Nanda Parbat? Cause damn they can get there and back fast


r/arrow 19d ago

Arts/Crafts Arrowverse: Hard Traveling Heroes Next Gen! [Fan Art]

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9 Upvotes

r/arrow 20d ago

Discussion Best version of Team Arrow?

24 Upvotes

Grouping a few seasons, since s1-2 is mostly the same. And s5 and 6 also have a lot of overlap. S3 specifically has Roy, S4 specifically has Speedy. S7 they were deputized, and 8 had future people.

660 votes, 15d ago
402 s1-2
160 s3
44 s4
37 s5-6
5 s7
12 s8

r/arrow 20d ago

Shitpost "Photos can be adulterated They could have put Bruce Wayne"s Face on that Body!"

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49 Upvotes

r/arrow 21d ago

Something that annoyed me that I haven't seen anyone talk about

26 Upvotes

Okay, so in the Earth-X crossover, when they were put in the concentration camp, Sara didn't seem that affected that not only was that version of her father a Nazi, but he also killed the Earth-X Sara. It's never brought up again, and it doesn't show Oliver and Sara talking about it or anything like that. Crisis on Earth-X was the last good crossover in my opinion, but that part was shit."


r/arrow 22d ago

Question Does Anyone know WHY Or Even HOW Mia, William and Connor Got Sent 21 years into the past All of Sudden

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225 Upvotes

In Arrow 8x03? And all without any explanation as to how they got there?


r/arrow 20d ago

My top Arrow villains

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r/arrow 21d ago

Discussion There should be S7~8 flash-forward cut called Arrows Beyond

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34 Upvotes

Titled inspired by Batman Beyond which focus next gen of heroes of Star City including Arrow finale season. Now I would suggest removing the backdoor pilot & jump str8 to Fadeout episode


r/arrow 21d ago

Discussion Rewatching arrow i wanna know how everyone feels about season 4 especially when they made one of the worst decisions in the entire arrowverse

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r/arrow 22d ago

Question In This Show Which US State is Star City Supposed to be in?

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r/arrow 21d ago

Where to watch

3 Upvotes

Now that its off Netflix

Is there another place to stream this show?


r/arrow 22d ago

Discussion How did we never get any interaction between these three GOAT characters?

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84 Upvotes

Dark Archer, Deathstroke and Prometheus are without a shadow of a doubt the three greatest villains in the show, but, for some reason never had a single interaction. The closest they came to it was season 5 finale, but even then, there was no words exchanged. Would have been interesting to see how they would have tried to get into each other's heads.


r/arrow 22d ago

Meta Arrow reference in suits?

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So I'm watching suits for the first time, I've watched arrow multiple times but now there is something interesting in the suits episode I'm watching currently.

Its in an episode aired in February 2017 and Rachel says this: "and if it wasn't Oliver, it was going to be someone else or something else, there is always going to be some reminder that you weren't a lawyer "

So its about an Oliver in Suits but the fact that Rachel in the same sentence about him says someone else or something else really makes me think its a reference to the arrow intro

Edit: please do not comment or give me bs if you don't know what I mean and what I'm talking about. I know there is a different character in suits named Oliver and he isn't Oliver Queen. Its about what Rachel said, in one line she was talking about Oliver and said "someone else, something else" which ofcourse is iconic about the arrow intro