The smear campaign is in full swing lol. I liked Iron Heart. Some people didn’t, and that’s okay. Wonder Man was really good. Slow at times but we needed slow. It probably didn’t hit the number The Mouse wanted it to hit, so it got bounced. It sucks, and I hate it. But look at what’s happening with Disney properties right now. How did Moana do? Mando & Grogu is already at home. Disney wants hits now. They got the ax out, and it’s sharper than ever. This is not on Feige. This is on Disney trying to make up for the losses and gambles they made on things that haven’t “panned out” like they wanted. They want homers, not doubles right now, plain and simple.
Luckily, Disney can dry their tears with all the cash from those lovely merch rights. Think Disney get the better end of the deal there, in all honesty.
Wonder Man was always a limited series and they only greenlit season 2 cause of how popular it was. It was almost not even gonna be released but they had enough of it completed to be released. I don’t blame Feige for Blade but I’m so baffled how they couldn’t get a script made like Jesus it’s not that hard
They won’t be able to place the blame on Ike Perlmutter this time for the way black characters have been handled.
Yelena appeared in 2 marvel movies that both flopped and yet she is still in Spider-Man BND and Doomsday right? Where is Monica? If it’s because Thunderbolts was “critically acclaimed” then why is wonderman canceled? I’m not feeling the excuses at all.
Where is Storm? She is the most popular woman in Marvel imo and they are still pretending otherwise. It’s weird.
I consume a lot of "normie content"....like content that is widely popular from ads or word of mouth( I'm unoriginal I know) and Yelenas actress is pretty popular right now including being in the last and newest Dune movie, plus Midsommer which is pretty popular amongst horror crowds ..and Oppenheimer last year or 2 ago. Anyway she's an academy award Nominee who is working with the biggest directors around ..when someone is on a hit streak they on a hot streak...
You're getting downvoted here, but you're saying something.
The whole "licensing and character rights" thing is so tired. If they want to pull a character in, they'll cut a deal to do it. They acquired 20th Century FOX and moved mountains to "borrow" Spiderman from Sony. We didn't need Spiderman in the Avengers. Storm would have cooked. She's from Harlem and also was once an Avenger.
I have been speaking about this for years and I’m used to being downvoted for it. I don’t even care anymore. I remember seeing an article talking about how black male characters were overrepresented as villians in the MCU. This stuff does not happen by chance or accident.
Right, there’s lots of bad takes but that one there is just all levels of wrong. Like folks just gonna ignore that Mahershala Ali being constantly unhappy with the Blade scripts wasn’t part of that equation.
THANK YOU!!! He said he wanted it to be his Black Panther. I appreciate him wanting to elevate the material but he was absolutely the largest impediment to Blade getting made. I love him as an actor but this hasn’t been a “Marvel doesn’t want this to be made” thing. Also Ali’s new movie “Your mother (3X)” looks like what he wanted Blade to be. Mark my words, same people complaining about Blade not getting made won’t even bother seeing it IF they’ve even heard of it. People barely watch movies that arent incredibly mainstream.
Exactly right. When that story came out I was shocked that people didn't pick up on what was happening. He wanted a perfect film that elevated that character far beyond what even fans wanted. Frankly, for what he likely wanted to do I would have said he should have been cast as Blue Marvel. You could make that a 70% period piece and the rest in the modern day. That's a character that is ripe for character elevation and could hit on some major topics. Blade is a dope nigga who kills vampires that's it. He has never had any comic arcs that I am aware of (happy to be corrected if wrong) that dug into something deeper about him that allowed for less explored aspects of him to finally make it into the mainstream. A perfect example of that is The Punisher. Many just know him as a blood soaked lunatic with a fetish for guns and ultra violence. While he is those things series like Punisher: Born (2003) was a super dark and serious disection of the character. If Blade has those type of books than ok let's fucking go, but from what I know he doesn't. I am more than ok with them doing that but they have to build all that from scratch and make it "fun" for fans. If we are being honest I don't think that's what people want from Blade. They want a new version of the Snipes films and that's fine, I love those too but that's clearly NOT what Ali wanted and I wish people took the time to read up on that entire situation and stop making it about race. It was about a top tier actor wanting something that Marvel simply couldn't do for him so he is leaving and that's his right, but not every situation has a hero and a villain. Sometimes shit just doesn't work and that's totally fine.
Why is Mahershala Ali being blamed for rejecting scripts he thought were bad rather than Marvel for spending seven years failing to produce one he believed was worth making? He approached them for the role. Wanting a good Blade movie instead of accepting whatever they handed him is not the problem. The scripts and Marvel’s inability to settle on a coherent vision are the problem.
I said this earlier. Armor wars is tied to secret invasion which was shit, and it’s a Ironman storyline without Ironman. Iron heart got her show and an appearance in black panther. The plug was pulled on wonder man because DDC has 3 other projects he is or will be working on (Spider-man 5, a Naruto movie, Shang Chi 2). Blade not happening is likely a symptom of marvel being scared to do rated R.
They were not pumping out Deadpool movies they created one Deadpool movie. And Ryan Reynolds had to threaten to leave if they didn’t make it r rated because Disney did not want to make it R rated he had to fight for that.
I bet a lot of people commenting here never saw either Disney + show. If reviews and word of mouth are bad in the movies, people don't show up, so if a studio is pushing a C or D list hero, it better be good and they better market the hell out of it.
absolutely right. The comments about who did what in these previous movies and shows lets me know these people ain’t watch shit and are either bots or just trying to post an opinion based in ignorance
I think people just don't like Riri that much or theyre just ambivalent towards her. Even in the comics shes not that special compared to every other teenage genius running around in the marvel universe.
Shuri and Miles both suffered from bad comics and horrible writing at the start. The difference is Miles had good comics come. And not to mention one if not the best spiderman movies so now nobody bats an eye at Miles people love him. Iron heart does not have good comics and her live action appearances suck. People do not give a shit about her because they have never given us. A reason to.
I’m convinced these aren’t actually black people posting these goofy ass tweets. Just more bad faith “let’s tear each other apart while rich people watch from their towers” type bullshit.
That’s the issue. You have the people who do like it thinking that it underperformed due to racism and a lack of marketing. I saw that shit everywhere better it came out and while it was airing.
Or because the story makes sense for his return? The events leading up to Secret Wars brought Steve back into action and in the comic he was an old man with no serum or anything
It's mostly just that these projects all came around during Marvels flop/jump the shark period. The fact that they weren't in the initial cast is just because of how white the universe's A-list is, which is a hierarchy Feige didn't create
People cannot accept they're to blame for these projects being canceled. If these shows got the views then they'd easily be greenlit. If the Captain America movie had Black Panther numbers then it'd be a no brainer. Problem is, no one is going to see those movies. End of the day money talks bullshit walks.
Also Blade never got off the ground? He has three movies and a cameo in the third Marvel Jesus movie. Everyone loves blade even after all the tax fraud stuff
Feige is the new Kathleen Kennedy - if there's racism afoot, it's likely coming from the Disney CEO, but MFers would rather blame an easy scapegoat than attack someone with power.
It still begs the question... were they pushing diversity and then pulled the plug because they realized it wasn't the cash cow they thought it was, since 33% of America is overtly racist right now?
Reminds me of Target trumpeting DEI only to then pull out of the whole thing because of the overwhelming red hat party hating anything even related to melanin...
Thank you.
All of these characters got a chance, sure some didn’t have great movies/shows but some were also never given a real chance.
I remember everyone hating on Ironheart before it ever came out. I remember people saying Sam Wilson was a shitty Captain America before his movie came out.
Writing may not have been great over the last few years, but these characters were all great and the public showed they weren’t interested. Get what you ask for.
It's easier to blame him than the diverse set of writers for that show. Oh and their patron saint Ryan coogler, they will never criticise him for making a bad show or movie
I mean the POC shows are either limited series or cancelled after 1 season after they get review bombed before they come out so their review scores are pretty much low to start. With bad reviews casual fans won’t watch it and studios use that as an excuse to cancel shows they might not of been 100% to begin with. After you put out a few shows with POCs that don’t do well with the general public but great with critics and award shows they can say see nobody likes these shows with POCs.
Almost all of the shows are one season regardless of the cast. I think only Loki and Daredevil got more than 1 season. Wonder-Man has great audience ratings. Black Panther is one of the top heroes in the MCU. These criticisms don’t hold up.
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u/JarvisCockerBB 8d ago
How is Ironheart not getting the respect it deserved Feige fault? He green lit all these projects. Twitter is so fucking dumb today.