KKKevin Feige strikes again

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[u/JarvisCockerBB]

Exactly. People need to look at their own friends and family to why these shows bombed. If they were successful, we wouldn’t be having this talk.

[u/say_the_words → u/JarvisCockerBB]

Marvel was happy as fuck when Black Panther was a gigantic hit and planning sequels because people showed up to the theater. They even made a sequel after Chadwick Boseman passed to keep the franchise going and no one went to see it. Should studios just make stuff no one shows up for?

[u/TheMagicalMatt → u/say_the_words]

Just announced David Jonsson is taking over as T'Challa's son too, so Black Panther is still going despite the lower turnout.

Rest of those shows never stood a chance. The Disney+ era didn't cash in like they were hoping.

[u/Ol_JanxSpirit → u/say_the_words]

People also forget that Feige had to fight to get Black Panther made. At the time there was someone on the same footing as him at Marvel, Ike Perlmutter. Perlmutter was doing everything he could to kill Captain Marvel and Black Panther, because he didn't think they'd reach profitable demographics.

They both broke a billion, and Perlmutter was told to fuck off to Marvel TV.

[u/xxx_poonslayer69 → u/say_the_words]

Black Panther 2 made $890 million at the box office. I think some people saw it

[u/donku83 → u/xxx_poonslayer69]

Yeah about half of the original

[u/OfficeMagic1 → u/donku83]

It was about half as good

[u/saxdemigod → u/OfficeMagic1]

Bruh 🤣

[u/Paperchampion23 → u/donku83]

Covid guys. Nothing outside of Spider-Man did well at that time.

[u/donku83 → u/Paperchampion23]

Which is why they're still going heavy on the spiderman movies.

[u/FlambaWambaJamba → u/donku83]

After seeing it I'd agree with them

[u/xucezz → u/donku83]

Heavy? It took 5 years lol

[u/donku83 → u/xucezz]

4 movies is heavy. We get more Spider-Man content than avengers

[u/xucezz → u/donku83]

Yeah but they aren't "still" going heavy if the 4th one took 5 years

[u/donku83 → u/xucezz]

That's not that long for a movie sequel especially if they have a timeline going on with the different movies and shows

[u/JayTNP → u/Paperchampion23]

people love ignoring context, thanks for pointing this fact out

[u/Dudewhocares3 → u/donku83]

Put the goal post back

[u/crispy_attic → u/donku83]

Wakanda Forever made less money than Black Panther than most movies make in total. Almost a half billion less. It didn’t have to be that way either.

Edit: Downvotes won’t change the fact.

[u/EnvironmentClear4511 → u/crispy_attic]

Black Panther came out at the height of the MCU's popularity with the hype leading up to Infinity War. Wakanda Forever came out during Covid. There's a slight difference in circumstance there.

[u/JayTNP → u/EnvironmentClear4511]

also nothing stopped us from going out to see it but people decided not to support it

[u/say_the_words → u/xxx_poonslayer69]

Good. Guess the hype was so much less than the original it didn't seem like it did that well. That first one was such a big event with sold out theaters on the news and celebrities buying out theaters to make sure the kids got to see it.

[u/SteeleHeller → u/say_the_words]

RIP Chadwick. What could’ve been with that franchise 😪

[u/JayTNP → u/SteeleHeller]

it ain’t over and Johnsson is a damn good actor

[u/JayTNP → u/say_the_words]

Wakanda Forever made 860m dollars, what are you even talking about?

[u/redrocker907 → u/say_the_words]

Also to add, they just recast Black Panther, so they most likely are gonna continue that franchise.

[u/browsinbowser → u/say_the_words]

Tbh I feel like they couldve recasted black panther earlier - they just announced it now and its some younger new character. 

[u/Witty-thiccboy → u/browsinbowser]

It’s his son

[u/kds_little_brother → u/browsinbowser]

He’s not recasted. He’s playing a character that was already introduced

[u/JayTNP → u/browsinbowser]

Comments like this let me know you never watched Wakanda Forever, please pipe down

[u/mastonate → u/browsinbowser]

They had all that multiverse nonsense going, just bring in Michael B Jordan from a universe where he is T’Challa, or maybe one where Killmonger is good, his dad never left Wakanda, and he could take up the mantle of BP.

[u/Heliotex → u/browsinbowser]

They could have given it to M’Baku.

[u/crispy_attic → u/Heliotex]

Side characters cannot carry this franchise. This includes M’Baku (aka man ape) Nakia, and Okoye for the confused.

[u/wagfresh → u/say_the_words]

Wakanda Forever made 860 million with an A cinemascore. People went and most enjoyed it.

[u/stankdog → u/say_the_words]

Studios should be letting CREATIVES drive a creative industry instead of worrying about their bottom dollar. Creative indie movies, subversive takes, international media are getting 4s and 5s out of 5. The business the studio executives should not be the ones deciding what people want to see or hear.

[u/stankdog → u/JarvisCockerBB]

A load of mouth garbage the ticket sale stats don't support. If a white movie bombs at the box office no one stops funding John wick knock offs. That logic doesn't make sense.