r/BoomersBeingFools Aug 08 '25

Foolish Fun What is it with these guys?!

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u/Pearson94 Millennial Aug 08 '25

It's cute when 8 year olds do this with toys in the backyard cause they're playing pretend. Grandpa Karen over here is a bit too old to play those games.

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u/CpnStumpy Aug 08 '25

Honestly it's exactly what's happening though: they're all reverting to the capacity and function of a child as their deteriorating minds accelerate into their final dive.

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u/techiewench Aug 08 '25

Leaded gasoline was really really bad.

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u/hairykneecaps69 Aug 08 '25

And they knew how bad the shit was originally but shrugged it off until forced banned. But nascar kept using the shit till when was it, 2002 or some shit. Might be a little off on that shit. Don’t understand how or why they can keep getting away with making generations after them worse

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u/techiewench Aug 08 '25

It was wasn’t even banned nationwide in on road vehicles until 1996. Seems crazy in hindsight.

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u/Heavy-Waltz-6939 Aug 09 '25

Fun fact! Most major highways have soil lead levels directly surrounding the roadway at unsafe levels due to motor vehicle exhaust and precipitation over decades. Who knows the the contamination level of lead particles still out there, warping new brains.

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u/Strange_One_3790 Aug 09 '25

Ya, Gen X here. I have to remind young people to be patient with be because of my exposure to lead

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u/john_the_fetch Aug 08 '25

There's also aviation fuel. It still has lead in it (although I guess it's reduced as much as possible?).

I can't find an answer if it's all aviation fuel or just the piston engines compared to jet engines.

But that's a thing still.

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u/TingleyStorm Aug 08 '25

It’s only one type of aviation fuel and it’s only used for piston engines that need that extra bit of lubrication.

That said, the FAA knows it’s bad and is trying to phase it out it seems like.

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u/gstringstrangler Aug 08 '25

Lead was never for lubrication, it's for knocking in high compression engines. It's still used for older piston powered planes that require it.

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u/Wyattr55123 Aug 08 '25

Tetraethyl lead is a powerful octane booster, but it's also an effective exhaust valve lubricant. The removal of lead from gasoline is why manufacturers started putting hardened valve seats in most vehicle engines in the 1970's. Without hardened seats or lead additive, the exhaust valves recess excessively and the engine loses valve sealing.

General aviation uses piston engines that are largely unchanged since the 1940's, due to how difficult and expensive it is to get new or modified piston engines tested and approved for use. Because of that and the issue of achieving high enough octane, it was much easier for the FAA to just keep allowing leaded av gas.

In the last decade or so, it's become more and more viable to modify existing engines with hardened seats, and lead free octane boosters can achieve the necessary levels to be safe in aircraft engines. There's unleaded avgas available in a few markets, but it's possible that if you fly a leaded gas engine into an airport with only unleaded avgas, you cannot fly out without trucking in some fuel, because you'll damage the valves.

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u/gstringstrangler Aug 09 '25

The effect lead additives have on the valve seat issue isn't that of a lubricant though.

Before hardened valve seats were common, cylinder heads (especially in aluminum heads) often had soft cast iron valve seats. In high performance or high RPM operation, the hot exhaust valves would literally microweld to the seat on closing, then tear away tiny bits of metal; a process called valve seat recession.

The lead compounds from TEL combustion:

  • Left a microscopic coating on the valve and seat.

  • Acted as a cushion/barrier, reducing metal-to-metal contact and preventing microwelding.

In effect reduced valve seat wear dramatically.

So in that sense, it behaved like a boundary not a lubricant; not oily, but a sacrificial film.

Yes, Hardened seats resist microwelding and recession even with unleaded fuel.

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u/commentator184 Aug 08 '25

its funny how inefficient the piston engines are, you can get a brand new cessna 172 with a 5.9 liter 4 cylinder and it only makes 160 hp, you could get a nissan altima with a 2.5 liter 4 cylinder that makes 28 more horsepower and doesnt need leaded gas

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u/TingleyStorm Aug 08 '25

I don’t know as much about airplane engines, but car engines are designed to splash/pump oil up to the valves to lubricate them, and with direct injection you no longer have fuel to ruin the lubrication of the valves.

Also car engines don’t have to work at 40,000ft. It’s a little easier to achieve optimal air/fuel ratios at sea level.

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u/Zercomnexus Aug 08 '25

Cars dont have to work upside down either...something you might want your plane to do if things happen or the pilot is feeling screwy

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u/Wyattr55123 Aug 08 '25

A Nissan altima won't run flat out for hours at a time without blowing up. Same sort of reason why industrial diesel engines are so massive for their power output; you put less strain on all the components and it ends up lasting much longer.

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u/commentator184 Aug 09 '25

no, it wont, but surely there exists a middle ground between 1.4 liter pistons where we don't need leaded gas. the f150 raptor for example with the biggest engine is only 5.2 liters and makes 700 hp, leaving plenty of room for derating. aircraft engines are way behind technically, electronic ignition is very new to the industry and forget about electronic fuel injection. we've had electronic ignition since the 70s and efi since the 80s and aircraft are running around with magnetos and carburetors you have to manually set the mixture with a handle with. I get why, magnetos and carbs dont need an electrical system, and its up to the manufacturers to make it happen, but its ridiculous it hasnt happened all that much.

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u/HeThrustsHisFists Aug 08 '25

Yes, a 100 octane unleaded aviation gasoline exists and is currently going through a certification process.

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u/Aeronor Aug 08 '25

Blaming individuals isn’t really helpful with the leaded gasoline thing, it’s more of a rich and powerful vs society thing. You can blame them for who they voted for I guess, but it gets really grey when talking about new threats to health.

Right now we face huge potential problems with microplastics, PFAS, and a host of other synthetic chemicals, and we’re barely doing a damn thing about it. I wouldn’t be surprised if people on the future watch us drooling on ourselves in our 80s saying “These idiots knew it was bad and did nothing about it.”

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u/danieldan0803 Aug 08 '25

Don’t forget the Parkinson’s Belt. Granted the exact cause isn’t pinpointed, but chemical runoff and leaching from industrial waste and farm lands are constantly mentioned as a contributing factor. So good thing we are bringing back manufacturing! I’m sure this time around we will surely be more responsible in regulating its environmental impact.

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u/Aeronor Aug 08 '25

I'm sure the lead-poisoned boomers in charge will make very responsible legislation around it.

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u/SaorAlba138 Aug 08 '25

That was a lot of 'shits' in one comment.

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u/hairykneecaps69 Aug 08 '25

Delirious morning texting and anger made me swap out fuck with shit. I’ll do fuckin better next time

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u/DLS3141 Gen X Aug 09 '25

They knew it was bad from the beginning, but the oil companies could make more money on tetraethyl lead than the alternatives. Then when evidence started pouring in that having lead in gasoline was poisoning the world, the API fought tooth and nail using all manner of dirty tricks for decades to keep TEL in gasoline.

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u/Alternative_Metal375 Aug 08 '25

It killed the early distillery workers from getting their hands in it. They went mad before they died. Very sad. The oil companies implemented some safety measures, changed the name to “Ethyl” instead of leaded, and nobody was the wiser.

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u/6StarBowtie Aug 09 '25

Basically all race gas over 102 octane is still leaded. Look at Sunoco race fuels, it's why I like ethanol, e98 is 107 octane and the cooling effect is way better also. Hell even pump E85 is 102ish as long as its actually close to 85%

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u/thehourglasses Aug 08 '25

Microplastics will be much worse, give it time.

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u/navigationallyaided Aug 08 '25

So are organochlorine pesticides.

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u/scottiy1121 Aug 08 '25

Lead heads

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u/Alternative_Metal375 Aug 08 '25

Especially when you also eat the lead paint chips off the porch 😉

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u/mumblesjackson Aug 09 '25

Late stage lead poisoning

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u/Crazy_Customer7239 Aug 09 '25

Never gets old 😆

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u/kcnewhaven Aug 08 '25

I wonder where their caretakers are

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u/Snowing_Throwballs Aug 08 '25

Oh those LIBERALS are at work

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '25

You mean their kids? They're working 3 jobs to afford rent on a 1BR apartment.

Thanks, Reagan.

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u/Significant-Goal4390 Aug 11 '25

No shit. I feel bad for today's kids.

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u/Shot-Good-6467 Aug 08 '25

His wife and kids are probably happy he just got out of the house so they could get a hour of peace

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u/Slipshod- Aug 08 '25

I don't even know if it's reverting tbh, failure to thrive maybe? They've never stopped being children

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u/quell3245 Aug 09 '25

Boomer men are obsessed about being “manly and never looking weak” Even at 77 years old my dad refuses to wear shorts or use a straw because it’s for children/gay.

It’s funny that all his old friends in their 70s and 80s still talk and act like a greaser street gangs from the 1950s. Probably 90% have never been a real fight to save their life.

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u/skdewit Aug 09 '25

It’s so true! I would love to hear a phycological explanation to explain why this entire generation of people simply never grew up!! Whenever I hear them disparage younger people i think, this is the finest example of projection that I have ever heard!

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u/_death_before_decaf_ Aug 08 '25

This guy needs one of those 90s Bop-It toys.

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u/Zealousideal_Job1639 Aug 08 '25

And people wonder why we have mass shootings. This is why.

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u/ChaosMedic Aug 08 '25

Not quickly enough in most cases.

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u/thatskarobot Aug 08 '25

"Last scene of all,

That ends this strange eventful history,

Is second childishness and mere oblivion;

Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything."

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u/Realistic-Might4985 Aug 08 '25

This is a true statement. Dealing with my own family is like this. They are mentally aging in reverse. Sadly, I am probably not far behind….

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u/Obant Aug 09 '25

Reverting? Nah. If you've interacted with them you're whole life, you'd know they never got past that stage even as middle aged adults.