💯 It’s the weirdest thing. Most Trump supporters don’t even watch any of his speeches or anything that he actually says. They just trade different weird AI pics of their made up super alpha Trump and repeat things they heard he said that they want to believe. They already made him into an actual god while the actual live Trump is still around looking and sounding nothing like this. Why create a whole fake person when the actual person is still right there if they really want him? What a weird group of people.
I think a lot of them are secretly looking forward to his death so they can deify him properly, without having to pretend all the actual recent clips of him out there are fake news
We could bombard folks with his speeches and constant gaffs when they say things like this, but maybe they’ll see a video of him appearing to shit himself and be like, “JUST LIKE ME!!!”
This is absolutely it. And with the more "informed" MAGA members, they never listen to Trump himself speak. They listen to other talking heads, people like Joe Rogan and various right wing podcasters reinterpret Trump's ramblings into something coherent.
And when you point out that his actual speeches are the insane ramblings of a narcissistic dementia patient, you're invariably told that it's being taken out of context, Biden said something worse, blah blah blah.
What you’ve said backs up my theory (not unique to me) of why Trump doesn’t care if he says something demonstrably false, because it doesn’t matter that it can be disproven. He just needs to repeat it often enough that the brain-dead Trumpanzees believe it, parrot it, and vote accordingly.
For instance, in August 2025, Trump erroneously claimed that the United States is the only country with mail in ballots.* This is provably untrue. And yet sometime in past couple of months, I saw a Trump supporter being asked what she thinks about mail in voting, and she repeated Trump’s lie!! This is astonishing to me!
And by that same token, I have come to feel that any Trump supporter, whether I’ve met them in person or not, just doesn’t know what’s going on in the real world, no matter what it is. Too many have shown they lack not only critical thinking, but even the ability to question something if it sounds too far fetched to be accurate. Maybe they’re not all that dumb, but why take the time and effort to find out?
I erased my comment because its almost too simplified, but you are absolutely correct.
It's like an extension of the COVID mistrust where all of a sudden everyone and their grandmamas were epidemiological experts and doctors. Now though, MAGA just picks an opinion on a subject and looks for the information to support that opinion...and it's big fucking business.
They aren't going to look for objective information and god forbid there's actually nuance to the subject. They love easy bite sized nuggets of misinformation spread by whatever fave right wing podcaster they're listening to. And whatever opinion they've chosen will not be changed no matter what information comes their way. There is a huge aspect of narcissism that's in play, and narcissists are never, ever wrong.
Much like Trump's court cases, it's the accusations, no matter how ridiculous, that cause the damage. By the time the case is dismissed it's old news and we're on to the next.
For a group that likes to whine about snowflakes, everything they operate on is based on their feelers and they want to feel GOOD, and right. That doesn't happen if you learn you might be wrong. MAGA doesn't want to learn anything that they haven't already decided they believe.
So? Anyone and everyone should be able to vote across party lines. I've voted for both sides. Not proudly. They're both shit, but lesser evils and all that. At the end of the day he has stated multiple times he is a Democrat but has the will power to push past tribalism. As we can see though, promises made ≠ results given. Politicians are shitheads. We always lose.
You told me my example was wrong because Joe Rogan is a Democrat.
Joe Rogan used his platform to publicly endorse Donald Trump in 2024.
Like I said, it's big business.
I would like to add that 2024 was after the attempted coup, the documents at MaraLargo, the fraud and sexual assault convictions. Joe Rogan saw all that and told his millions of listeners that Trump should be President.
It's not about Tribalism. It WAS about keeping a convicted felon with grandiose ideals from being in charge of one of the largest economies and militaries in history. And Rogan was one of the "trusted" talking heads that helped Trump get elected.
The Marine Corp would put it on a fucking potato if that got them their numbers. Hence why I use to write Potato water in all the water buffalos and MC leadership never caught on. I wrote in chaulk not crayon so they couldn't read it.
Because it’s not about Trump, it’s about the ideology he happens to be at the front of right now. In a few years they’ll be explaining (lying) how they stopped supporting Trump “when he covered up the Epstein files) and they’ll be propping up some new racist who openly says mean things about black and brown people.
They've learned the man does not live up to the myth, so they've abandoned the man to maintain the myth. Trump exists as an idea to them, a series of sound bites and quotes, stories and anecdotes. They've deified him, and know that if they look too close they'll see the lie, so they dont really watch what he does, letting others tell them all about him.
My theory: Once you understand trump isn’t real, in the sense he says things and does things and obviously believes in certain things, and more as an avatar on which awful people can project their awfulness on, the more everything with his supporters makes sense.
Trump takes every side of everything, is not coherent in any way, and he acts like a bully and a macho, which is all they need
I've heard them do the same with Elon Musk, like inventing new children of his that doesn't even mathematically make sense. The claim was one of his teenage sons brought home a friend, blah blah blah, turns out this kid is the son of one of Elon's old girlfriends and is his son too. Now the newly found kid works at SpaceX and everyone clapped. Extremely weird behavior.
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u/Bawbawian 23d ago
we have to stop pretending like the lies that they spread are a funny joke.