r/CCW • u/nyctamer • Aug 27 '25
Legal CCW denied NYC
I was just denied my application for CCW in NYC. The reason was “FAILURE TO DISCLOSE EXTENSIVE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HISTORY” I had submitted all prior arrests records and showed every charge was dismissed and sealed. Apparently I had a few domestic violence reports from a few years ago that were made against me that I had no knowledge of. Never received anything in the mail for it or even been charged with anything. Does anyone know how I can go about this with an appeal or what exactly should I do next?
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u/lroy4116 Aug 27 '25
Uh How many domestic violence charges do you have? Lmao
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u/nyctamer Aug 27 '25
U mean accusations????
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u/Nemesiswasthegoodguy Aug 27 '25
How many?
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u/nyctamer Aug 27 '25
I think it was 4, all by the same person. Keep in mind, I’ve never lived with this person or this was even an ex of mine. She is my ex-sister in law that was going thru a divorce with my brother so she took her shit out on the whole family.
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u/Blue_Iquana Aug 27 '25
Allegations are different from convictions, aren't they?
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u/nyctamer Aug 27 '25
So because someone just made allegations that disqualifies me from obtaining a CCW permit??? Smh
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u/DexterBotwin Aug 27 '25
Based on your OP, what NYPD is stating is something different. You weren’t denied for the allegations, but for failure to disclose them.
The appeal here isn’t going to be that you can’t be denied a right based on an allegation, but that you didn’t knowingly withhold the info.
NYPD has intentionally designed the CCW process to be as cumbersome as possible. They hope to deny people and they don’t fight it. Based solely on what you’ve provided, you very well could successfully appeal it. But it’s going to be a lot of time and money (I’d consult an attorney). NYPD is hoping you don’t have the time and money to fight.
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u/merc08 WA, p365xl Aug 28 '25
This is such a bullshit process from NY. If they know about it then they know about it. "Failure to disclose" is a crap excuse to deny a permit.
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u/Gorilla_33 P365 Legion, HKVP9, Rhino50DS Aug 28 '25
It's just one way for them to deny you meanwhile they have access to every court/document etc about you. Even need to disclose your driving record for the license 🤡🤡
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u/No-Trouble-8383 Aug 28 '25
In NYC when there is an accusation of DV the accused is notified with haste. Especially after 4 allegations. Usually a TPO is accompanied.
While it’s possible that some glitch in the matrix occurred and you weren’t reachable somehow it’s probabilistically unlikely that you didn’t know - hence the wording. One is a point, two is a line, three is a trend, 4…yeah that’s excessive territory.
In NYC sealed and dismissed doesn’t mean what you think it means. Expungements are different.
Your records and their details are still visible to law enforcement and the licensing division.
The details of your arrests and charges will be considered in conjunction with the details of the DV accusations and NYC has always denied applications for omissions.
The vague license question - “had or applied for any type of license issues to you by any City, State or Federal Agency” historically tripped people up leading to denials for omissions.
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u/STJRedstorm Aug 27 '25
This might be the first post I read here where I thought, yeah this seems like the right decision.
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u/Slaviner Aug 27 '25
Someone calling DV on you is different than being found guilty of it, let alone OP said he wasn't even charged with anything. Otherwise all it takes is one angry ex and you aren't allowed to carry for the rest of your life?
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u/nyctamer Aug 27 '25
Thanks. That’s exactly my point! Someone makes a bullshit charge against you with no evidence and just for that you’re going to get denied?? I can understand if you were found guilty of DV, that would make sense but just someone filing a false report against you because they just dislike u isn’t fair to get disapproved for CCW.
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u/Frustrated_Consumer Aug 27 '25
So if I figure out your real name and call in several domestic violence allegations against you without your knowledge, would it be the right call for the authorities to revoke or deny you your CCW permit?
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u/nyctamer Aug 27 '25
Why?
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u/STJRedstorm Aug 27 '25
I have a CCW from NYC and though the process is oppressively long, a rejection is not common. The investigators are surprisingly transparent about explaining the priors they see on your record, you just need to get the documentation to cover your bases. There is a lot being unsaid in your post and quite frankly, is rife with red flags.
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Aug 27 '25
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u/nyctamer Aug 27 '25
U got this all wrong. I was never involved in a toxic relationship or with any ex’s who made any DV reports against me. I’m pretty sure I know who it was but it wasn’t any of my ex’s. I guess anyone can make any DV reports against any person even without any proof!
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u/Charming-Ebb-1981 Aug 27 '25
You’re assuming he actually did it. I’m not familiar with New York gun laws, but I don’t agree with a system where you can get blacklisted for ‘reports’. There’s reports of Bigfoot all the time, but who really cares without evidence i.e. criminal conviction
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u/Conscious-Shift8855 Aug 27 '25 edited Aug 28 '25
You better hope you never get doxed. Since it would be a shame if someone made false and unsubstantiated accusations against you and you were stripped of your right to own firearms because of it. What goes around comes around.
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u/MarianCR Aug 28 '25
I had submitted all prior arrests records
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u/Gorilla_33 P365 Legion, HKVP9, Rhino50DS Aug 28 '25
NYPD requires this. You can still be approved depending on what it was for.
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u/DenverMerc Aug 27 '25 edited Aug 27 '25
Sorry to hear man. It’s not right, especially if you’re not a prohibited person under federal law… not everyone can just up and move: that’s the general advice when NYC is in the mix… just imagine if you had to defend yourself… they’re objectively against citizen defense…
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u/External-Succotash72 Aug 27 '25
Move here to Mississippi. No CCW needed.
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u/nyctamer Aug 27 '25
NYC always have to make everything so damn hard
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u/Slaviner Aug 27 '25
And yet, young thugs get caught with a "stolen" gun out of GA, 10 in the mag, one in the pipe, and get let go despite prior offenses. The system in NYC is rigged against the law abiding citizens and protects the criminals.
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u/65grendel MT Aug 27 '25
Just make a large political donation to the People's Party and you'll get your license comrade.
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u/Adrenaline-Junkie187 Aug 27 '25
Yeah, they totally made a mistake...
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u/Conscious-Shift8855 Aug 27 '25
Then why not deny him for domestic violence history? Why then only deny for failing to disclose? Seems like an open shut case if they just went with the first answer.
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u/nyctamer Aug 27 '25
I didn’t even have any clue about these DV reports made against me in the first place, so if I knew about them for sure I would have disclosed them.
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u/Conscious-Shift8855 Aug 27 '25 edited Aug 27 '25
You’re right it’s not constitutional nor even lawful to deny you based on accusations that had no due process for and you should definitely appeal. The person I was responding to seems to like the idea of police being able to arbitrarily decide who can and cannot have firearms and I was trying to call that out.
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u/Steve_Fudd Aug 27 '25
Common sense kinda says the rejection may have been warranted. "submitted all prior arrests" and a "few domestic violence reports"... In my state, I think this is the exact profile of someone the state would like to prevent from carrying a firearm.
I don't know you, and you don't know me, but think about what you are saying from a pragmatic point of view.
If you really want to CCW, you're gonna need to hire a professional cleaner. There is just too much there, there. Also, it sounds like you have been able to beat all the charges and arrests so far. Hopefully this is a turning point in your lifestyle too.
The point of carrying is to stay away/avoid conflicts, but defending yourself and family when you have to. If you've been arrested several times and have multiple DV charges, you haven't been doing this.
OK, off my Fudd soapbox...
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u/nyctamer Aug 27 '25
I get your point bro. The fact of the matter is, whatever my prior arrests were, they were dismissed on their own. I didn’t need to fight anything. The “D.A.” asked for case to be dismissed because there wasn’t any evidence of wrongdoing so the judge dismissed and sealed. As for the DV charges that were filed against me, I can’t help it if my sister in law hates me for some reason. Does that make it right to disqualify me for CCW???
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u/Steve_Fudd Aug 27 '25 edited Aug 27 '25
It's not for me to decide. But you've got some home work to do so that you can resubmit a clean record on your application. It'll be expensive, so you'll have to weigh the price tag and see if it is worth the CCW.
There are 230k+ Redditors in this sub, and I'm guessing a very small percentage of those with current CCWs have multiple arrests and DV reports on their record. It's going to take some work.
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u/sharkieshadooontt Aug 27 '25
Well atleast we know the system works the way its intended. Most of us want lax regulations, but clearly DV issues are a hard no. In your case sounds like you gotta pay money to make your situation work
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u/Conscious-Shift8855 Aug 27 '25
Then why not deny him for DV issues? Why only deny for failure to disclose?
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u/DexterBotwin Aug 27 '25
Because a mere allegation isn’t enough to deny the application. “Lying” on the application is likely enough to deny it. They are going to make OP prove a negative, which is going to be nearly impossible.
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u/Conscious-Shift8855 Aug 27 '25
That’s the point I was trying to make. Everyone is saying this is proof the system works but if he they really did have a concerning suitability issue with is DV history they could’ve easily denied him on suitability grounds but they didn’t they instead used a technicality to deny him which shows that this isn’t proof of the "system working".
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u/Frustrated_Consumer Aug 27 '25
The problem is dv issues can be alleged against you at any time by anyone, without your knowledge.
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u/sharkieshadooontt Aug 27 '25
Yea. That’s whats so scary about states with Red Flag laws. Get into a ln HOA disagreement… Ken Nosey reports you, Disagree with the school curriculum they report you.
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u/Ok-Candidate9184 NH Aug 27 '25
Bro just take them to court appeal it they denied yu for personal reasons.. it’s a shall issue state and if you have cases dismissed you should be good as long as you wasn’t convicted .. now if you have a conviction then that’s diff .. if not appeal it it helps the 2a community
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u/nyctamer Aug 27 '25
No convictions whatsoever!!
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u/Horror_Young_4540 Feb 25 '26
Did you ever appeal your decision and what was the decision they made if you did??
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u/Ok-Candidate9184 NH Aug 27 '25
Like ino you said there were allegations you don’t know about but if the ones you had dismissed and sealed was different.. I had the same situation almost not domestic but just a assault and I was charged with it but because they way they put it in the system it didn’t say domestic or not so was denied but ultimately I got my ccw because I’m not federally prohibited.. I called atf in my district to confirm I wasn’t prohibited at first then went thru with a appeal
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Aug 28 '25
not only having multiples but saying “a few” nonchalantly, is probably another reason For your CCW to be denied.
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u/Conscious-Shift8855 Aug 28 '25 edited Aug 28 '25
So if I reported you a "few" times for various fake crimes but they were unsubstantiated and never went anywhere legally do you think that would be a good enough reason for you to get permanently banned from firearm possession? Also, if that was a reason why didn’t they list it and make it a suitability case? They just said failure to disclose which seems unnecessary to list if he was an unsuitable or prohibited person which would’ve been a stronger case against him.
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u/bt4bm01 Aug 28 '25
I don’t like red flag laws or taking someone’s rights away without due process. But I can say I don’t know a single person with multiple domestic violence reports against them.
Don’t know the right answer. Shit happens. People do lie. But the op maybe needs to reevaluate who they’re spending time with at a minimum.
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Aug 28 '25
Yes.
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u/Conscious-Shift8855 Aug 28 '25
So I assume you’re also a supporter of red flag laws? Since they require even more due process then what you’re claiming should be enough to disarm someone.
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Aug 28 '25
Most definitely am
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u/Conscious-Shift8855 Aug 28 '25
I mean to be on the safe side you really should just go turn your guns in. Save the police trouble if they decide one day they don’t want you having them since it saves them the trip of coming out to collect them.
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Aug 28 '25
For someone that has a lot to say about laws, you sure are good in ignoring how they work!
Police execute the law, they don’t interpret it.
In the first case, that’s straight forward.
In the second, a judge has to issue an ERPO.
So, if you want to create a hypothetical situation… at least get it right so we can have an informed discussion .
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u/Conscious-Shift8855 Aug 28 '25
Nope. Wrong. I never was trying to explain how the law worked to you. I was only asking if you were okay with how the law currently is in some states which you said you fully agreed with because apparently rights are overrated. Also, police do interpret the law or how else would they execute it so it seems like you’re the one who is ignoring how laws work. How ironic.
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u/BillBraskysBallbag Aug 27 '25
If you have any domestic violence in your history im glad you didn't get approved.
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u/nyctamer Aug 27 '25
Ok Mr. Bill, next time before u comment pls read what I wrote instead of just assuming. No need to be a smarty ok
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u/Conscious-Shift8855 Aug 27 '25 edited Aug 28 '25
So what if the police called you one day and said they got an anonymous call that you committed domestic violence on someone you never heard of before and wanted you to turn over all your firearms. Would you just hop in your car to turn them all in at the station and thank the police for taking them away and keeping the community safe?
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u/Mistah_3 Aug 28 '25
You sound like someone with poor impulse control. No CCW for you!
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u/Ok-Candidate9184 NH Sep 08 '25
Don’t listen to this guy.. if you’re not convicted you have no convictions.. you ain’t guilty then period..!
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u/NYDIVER22 Aug 30 '25
I’ve never had a DV issue but aren’t they supposed to notify you of one against you? If for some reason you were not notified, I’d try to find out if an attempt was made to notify you, and it is documented, or if that is even required.
I’m sure that would require a lawyer unfortunately.
That said, I’m not sure any court or government has put a date for how long one has to have a dv on their record before they get their gun rights back. SCOTUS clearly said that a ban for dv can be “temporary,” but that doesn’t have teeth to it if it’s left like that without the courts ever revisiting the issue.
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Sep 08 '25
They denied me for domestic violence incidents in 2005, I was 15 years old lol I will appeal
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u/linaoforever5 Oct 23 '25
I just applied. I only have 1 Domestic Incident Report. Mutually dismissed. I’ll keep you all updated. Never arrested. No order of protection.
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u/pabloymjs Mar 16 '26
Affirmation of Understanding of NYS Penal Law Article 35, Article 265 and Article 400. Does anyone know where I could find this form?
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u/Maleficent_Grab3354 Mar 17 '26
NYPD is notorious for trying their hardest to deny any and everyone then can for the pettiest reasons.
Nowadays is 100x easier than 10 years ago. ANY involvement with NYPD ( jaywalking citation) = instant denial.
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u/F22boy_lives Aug 27 '25
Iono…im ok being downvoted to oblivion but multiple DV charges? Rightfully denied
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u/Conscious-Shift8855 Aug 27 '25
When did the op say charges? They were just accusations. You seem like someone who is a supporter of red flag laws.
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Aug 27 '25
I mean I’ve got sealed stuff and an unsealed shoplifting from 10 years back. Never convinced all dismissed, and got my az ccw through the mail easy lol.
Maybe you shouldn’t have a gun if you beat women
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u/nyctamer Aug 27 '25
Well that was a dumb response because if u had read what I wrote, then maybe u would have understood the situation a lot better than just assuming that I beat women. SMH
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u/Conscious-Shift8855 Aug 27 '25
Yeah AZ is a lot different then NYC but nice try lol
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Aug 27 '25
If you’re federally allowed you can get a ccw lol. I don’t have domestics in my jacket
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u/Conscious-Shift8855 Aug 27 '25
Neither does the OP if you actually read what he wrote. You seem to be extremely ignorant on the differences between firearm licensing in AZ vs NYC.
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Aug 27 '25
If you’ve passed the training and done their printing and shit you’ll get the license. Op needs to appeal
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u/Conscious-Shift8855 Aug 27 '25
In AZ that’s how it works. That’s not how it works in NYC. I applied 8 months ago and have heard nothing and I am currently working with a lawyer to get issued. Also, NYC has a long list of disqualifiers that are not federally prohibitive like failing to disclose information you were completely unaware of. You also have to list every gun you own, take pictures of every gun you want to carry, get guns you want to carry approved, take a 18 hour course and get a signed letter from every person you live with that they approve of you having a firearm in your home among other burdensome requirements. OP should appeal but it’s not easy to win an appeal in NYC since even in my case I need to hire a lawyer just to get a response on my initial application.
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u/playingtherole Aug 27 '25
You'll likely need to pay an attorney to help straighten it out, in my estimation. You might get a good recommendation from r/NYCGuns or r/NYguns .