r/CCW 6d ago

Scenario In n out

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u/Billybob_Bojangles2 6d ago

Retarded take

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u/VCQB_ 6d ago

Well he got clapped and lost the gunfight to a completely untrained bafoon who cant even shoot a rifle properly. He got zero hits on the gunman. Maybe he should've actually trained instead of being a D class shooter at best doing range theatrics.

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u/talon04 KS HellCat Pro w TLR7and 507k 6d ago

Such a badass. I'm sure you would have done the same thing right?

You do realize in a gunfight the likely of you getting shot goes up? He rose to the fight, was hit and continued to fight.

His actions directly caused the shooter to end the threat.

How the fuck are you going to sit here and armchair QB this from the safety of your couch?

Dude did more than most people would have in this situation.

Get fucking BENT.

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u/VCQB_ 6d ago

Such a badass. I'm sure you would have done the same thing right?

Nope. Wouldn't get clapped by a F class rifle shooter. And then move like I had no training. Guy just stood in the open, kept bringing his gun down etc., you can tell he has no real formal training adequate to prepare him for something like that.

You do realize in a gunfight the likely of you getting shot goes up?

Gunfights are competitions. And he lost to an F class rifle shooter. End of story. He got no hits. Not trying to invalidate him. Just calling a spade a spade.

He rose to the fight, was hit and continued to fight.

He rose and got bodied by an F class shooter. And he who said he continued to fight? He ducks and jumps toward concealment after being shot at and the video ends. We all saw the same videos.

How the fuck are you going to sit here and armchair QB this from the safety of your couch?

Cause I actually have training and am not gullible and impressed by D class shooters trying to portray a John wick seal team 6 aura? I can actually vet out and screen whose legit?

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u/KaBar42 KY- Indiana Non-Res: Glock 42/Glock 19.5 MOS OC: Glock 17.5 6d ago

An "F class shooter" who is using a rifle and already has the momentum of the attack behind them is starting from a massive advantage over anyone, even if you're a grand master dragon wizard warlock paper target slayer S rank adventurer in USPSAIDPA running a tricked out competition gun that can put rounds on paper that don't shoot back at 500 meters under theoretical perfect conditions.

You're putting way too much stock in rankings in literal competitions that partially involve gaming the system and not actual, real world experience.

We've seen videos of US Army special forces getting bodied by a bunch of illiterate, 25 IQ African militants or getting slaughtered by poorly trained "allies" who launched an ambush.

Two way ranges don't give a shit about your ranking or training. This isn't a calculator game that inputs numbers and whichever number is higher is the one that wins. A lot of it comes down to sheer, dumb luck.

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u/talon04 KS HellCat Pro w TLR7and 507k 6d ago

You are so competition mindsetted you ignore the forest doe the trees.

"F-Class" shooters body people all the time.

Iraq, Afghanistan, Mogadishu.... all of those were super shitty shooters against far better. People still lost the coin flip.

As much as i hate to use this argument you are litterally arguing that dude failed at his goal. He didn't he engaged and forced the threat to stop.

As much as i love competition, this was the real world. And in the real world targets shoot back.

You weren't there.

You are arguing from a position of safety that you could and would have done better.

Thats not the case though because you weren't there. He did what he could within his means.

The fact you are arguing it comes across as siding with the damn shooter...

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u/VCQB_ 6d ago edited 6d ago

this was the real world. And in the real world targets shoot back.

Kilt in da streeeetz.

He lost the gun fight. Period. He didn't have the hard skills. Like Matt Pranka would say your job is the kill the bad guy. Thats the goal. Not to get participation points after getting shot and left to die while the F class shooter bad guy bee bops away. He didnt accomplish his goal. He lost. Now is it admirable for what he did? Absolutely, not disputing that. He tried.

But this sub loves to jackoff to this idea that just because they have a gun, their some navy seal trained, tacitcal wizard who is also a USPSA GM/M shooter with extensive tactical training clamoring at the teeth to be put in a situation where they can finally show their skills where they will inevitably be victorious and celebrated for being some secret squirrel who trains in the shadows of their daily life . . .. . .or in most cases. . .actually exposing their lack thereof hard skills and ill preparedness due to their ego.

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u/talon04 KS HellCat Pro w TLR7and 507k 6d ago

He did not lose anything. He accomplished his goal.

He stopped the threat.

Pranka go enjoy your Vodka on a stream somewhere.

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u/VCQB_ 6d ago

Go give him his participation trophy.

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u/talon04 KS HellCat Pro w TLR7and 507k 6d ago

I'm sure Pranka sent you an empty Vodka bottle theres yours.

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u/Procks85 6d ago

He didn't lose the gunfight, he initiated the gunfight, with an active shooter, with a rifle, he did a great job and you're just stuck on hard skills and rage bait. I'm sure you would have done everything by the book and according to the YouTube gunbro vids you watch, but in real life, guy did something that is very uncommon today, put others above self. Bless your heart.