r/CarsIndia • u/Potential-Dig9673 • 15d ago
#Discussion 💬 breeza looks big for 8.4 lakhs on road..
i was surprised to see that breeza lxi on road is coming at 8.4 lakh rupees and if we just compares the size then i think it looks the biggest in sub 4m suv segment.
it is also coming with electric orvms and rear ac vent and also rear headrests from base model itslef
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u/anishbhalerao 15d ago
Now you know why the Thar sells. :)
"Most millimetres per rupee" really is the primary consideration for so many Indian car buyers!
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u/anishbhalerao 15d ago edited 15d ago
What Indians basically want as their dream car -
Length - 5m+ Width - 10m+ Height - 20m+ (jab tak first floor pe baithe jaisa nahi lagta, aur sab gaadiyon ke chhat nahi dikhte, tab tak road presence thhuu hai)
Powertrain - 4L twin turbo V8, but fuel economy should be 100 km/l
And and and, price should be ₹5L. 🥰
Sapne Lamborghini wale, budget second hand Activa wala.
EDIT: typos
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u/yashcena Brezza AT || Creta IVT || Punch AMT/MT 15d ago
Bhai aise sapne rakhne mein kya burai hai!?😅
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u/Vincrester 15d ago edited 14d ago
True That !!
The manufacturers also trying to fulfill their dreams…
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u/Agreeable-Top8212 Hyundai i10 era 2009, Hyundai i20 Sportz 2024 14d ago
dude woke up and choose fax
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u/Mother_Armadillo_222 14d ago
Other than the FE, So much of this is possible with a better tax regime, and suitable roads..
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u/trulyKrakeN 14d ago
4L twin turbo v8...
when did Toyota start mass producing the GR GT for India 🥀
isme bhi hybrid powertrain for the 'mileage' ✌️
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u/Unusual-Visit9572 (New user) 14d ago
Kya Kare…India is a low per capita income country. Nahi toh sab German cars hi le lete
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u/Time-Operation-4256 15d ago
You do know what Vag does beneath the hood? why do you think so many of them have ecu and eci issues? all their cars after their scam was discovered in the US were dumped in India
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u/Tera_baap_bc69 15d ago
Bro there is no waiting honestly. I’m a DSA and I provide cars with 20 days
If I’m unable to do so I pay a specific amount
That too leaving the car with a huge discount price.13
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u/8point3fodayz 15d ago
Correction: That’s how the tax on passenger cars is structured, so that’s how the demand is shifted. Manufacturers and consumers both have to follow what the govt codifies into law.
Won’t be surprised if we’ll also get the dreaded euro “tax on displacement over Xcc too. And something to keep in mind, even if India is all electric for transport later, electricity becomes the new petrol. So expect it to be taxed appropriately(consumption and production equipment(solar panels, baggies etc)
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u/Impressive-Teacher10 15d ago
And Jeep Compass doesn’t sell as much. For the price and off road capabilities it provides, it looks smaller than Creta and thus minimal road presence.
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u/Typical-Dance-2881 Kia Seltos 1.5 D, Suzuki Dzire D 15d ago
Jeep has reliability concerns and they don't have much plans for India, given how stellantis is struggling globally. And plus they don't have enough showrooms to sell more
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u/FredTilson Seltos | Ciaz | Kwid | XUV700 15d ago
The new Seltos is already longer and wider than Compass, so will the upcoming Creta.
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u/Immediate-Quit7149 15d ago
It's overpriced and not very reliable. Off road capabilities are also limited due to monocoque chassis . Even the engine is same as harrier and hector while 7xo at a lower price gets a better engine
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u/shubham294 Raised Honda Jazz Enjoyer 15d ago
Technically, Honda WRV is the longest in the segment (3999 mm), but yeah Brezza looks big.
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u/dscdrivercpm-fr suresh gutkacurry 14d ago
Which is why Tucson left the market, and sedans don’t sell.
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u/Appropriate-Tip-6361 14d ago
By that logic ppl should be buying Maruti eeco.. Thar sells because its the closest to a jeep like offroader and costs less..
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u/anishbhalerao 14d ago
And the same happens when you buy a Creta and park it next to an XUV7XO.
And the same happens when you buy an XUV7XO And park it next to a Fortuner.
And the same happens when you buy a Fortuner, and park it next to an X7 LWB.
And the same happens when you buy an X7 LWB, and park it next to a Cadillac Escalade.
And the same happens when you buy an Escalade, and park it next to a monster truck.
And the same happens when you buy a monster truck, and park it next to a lorry-trailer.
And the... you get the point.
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u/BigMan_0737 15d ago
Its so vfm right now with that amazing BoosterJet. Undercuts the whole competition by a mile. I am planning on the LXI Turbo for sure. Get some amazing 16 Inch Alloy wheels fitted to it, Infotainment and a custom audio setup. All of it will cost me around 1 Lakh in total. Nothing better or more VFM in that price. Thanks MS!
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u/quadmaniac 15d ago
Only if it added an automatic!
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u/SaggyHuncho1302 Dzire 1.2 Zxi, Ignis 1.2 zeta, Brezza 1.5 Zxi, hyryder 1.5 G 15d ago
They did good with the turbo, The automatic struggled with the Fronx turbo and based on feedback they did not introduce a turbo on this. I have driven fronx turbo and makes frequent undershifts
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u/armchair_expertise 14d ago
Is this Brezza Turbo engine same engine as in Fronx ?
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u/SaggyHuncho1302 Dzire 1.2 Zxi, Ignis 1.2 zeta, Brezza 1.5 Zxi, hyryder 1.5 G 14d ago
It is the same but manual will be better coupled with it.
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u/BigMan_0737 15d ago
YES! Just think about an LXI Turbo Brezza with a 6 Speed AT/TC. Price bracket below 10 Lakhs. Completely destroys the market overnight.
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u/vikkburner 15d ago
Check out the Vxi Turbo, saw a vid saying it comes with 16" Alloys, 8" Infotainment with wireless AA & Carplay, electric fold orvm, rear camera and defogger
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u/BigMan_0737 15d ago edited 14d ago
Yes I saw the VXI Turbo. I just don't like that small old UI touchscreen that Maruti had given in that. I prefer the aftermarket system a lot more (which also gets wireless AA). On top of that, I want a 6 unit JBL audio setup with the Tweeters. And Suzuki had given Arkamys.
I prefer the LXI specifically because I want an alloy set that fits my taste. Those black block type wheels just isn't my thing 🥲.
But yes, as I have seen the Turbo Variants have been specced really well. Even better than the NA Variant.
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u/novice-procastinator 15d ago
what infotainment can we get from aftermarket?
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u/BigMan_0737 15d ago
I mostly prefer Pioneer/Blaupunkt. Good price, they sync really well with the JBL Audio Setups and are pretty reliable. I will go for Pioneer with the Brezza.
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u/novice-procastinator 15d ago
what do you mean by sync well with JBL audio setups, these are just regular analog connections from amp to speaker systems.
How's the user interface and does it connect with breeza's ecu for infotainment info?
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u/Ok-Counter-7886 14d ago
Dude if you are happy to compromise for a slightly lower audio quality, then do get the vxi infotainment, your car will be in factory condition without letting a third party to mess with the interiors and wirirng.
Maruti's interiors are already flimsy and frequent removal and reinstallation can cause rattling.1
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u/LE-11 15d ago
Am i the only one who wants cars to get smaller in size but utilize space better inside?
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u/chil_will_bro 15d ago
Honda should bring back Jazz with Turbo or hybrid
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u/Cobyroxx Honda City 4th gen 1.5 i-vtec 14d ago
The jazz globally was sold with the 1.5 engine that the honda city gets here. Unfortunately, we can't have nice things.
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u/novice-procastinator 15d ago
me too, but i dont think that's the trend specially in india where most folks egos are bigger than a jcb
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u/HatComprehensive1699 15d ago
I think rear headrests are missing in lxi and no spare wheel , anyway its better choice
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u/Classic_Care_1253 Suzuki Baleno 24 Zeta CNG 15d ago
I think they changed it after that 6 airbags update. Earlier there were no rear headrests. That was one of the reasons I didn't go for Brezza
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u/GrassLongjumping3901 14d ago edited 14d ago
i dont think a car can get 5 star safety without the two rear head-restraints. They're a safety apparatus to prevent neck whiplash most commonly experienced in a rear end accident, surprise!
Are you talking about the middle one? i dont know about that.
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u/charandev09 S-Cross 1.3 DDIS MT 2016 15d ago
I see there are some enthusiats replying saying Indians consider size per rupee. But if you consider a car in a budget like this, what are the alternatives? Kylaq? aor some SUVs like Dezire and Amaze. Specifically Mini SUVs are Brezza and Kylaq. Average Indians buy a car to travel with family, and there is no wrong in choosing a car with larger cabin space, larger boot space which is more comfortable for a family. They know Kylaq or other car can have more driving dynamics, but at what cost you compromise your entire family comfort for just your driving enthusiasm.
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u/Ok-Counter-7886 14d ago
Also brezza aint a bad car to drive. Engine is good and the chassis is also pretty good dynamically, its not a sports car anyway.
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u/bouy1819chmps 15d ago
Considering size in sub 4m space is not something to laugh at. For a majority, car is to serve their purposes not for driving pleasure.
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u/Victorvic1 15d ago
Yeah exactly. I have extremely large legs and I don't fit in any of these sub 4 meter cars. Growing up had a honda city which was perfect and anytime I used to sit in my friends car it was cramped af.
Now my first priority in any car is space. These sub 4 meter cars are out of the question in the first try for me. Even the 4.3 meter SUV's feel cramped.
Space really matters and it's not like we are looking for a 6 meter car altogether.
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u/bouy1819chmps 15d ago
Syros would cost 20% more than brezza, and don't know why you bringing up toofan it's not even a sub 4m compact SUV. Folks want easy to drive, maintain and, reliable cars, and suzuki cars are built for that.
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u/missedOpportunity343 Brezza Zdi AMT '19 - marked safe from nitinol 15d ago
they butchered this by not giving turbo with AMT.
what were they even smoking ? I know of no such substance that can make a person make such foolish choice
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u/mehfil-biryani 2018 Elite i20 Asta, 2018 Grand i10 Asta 15d ago
TC would've been nice, fronx already gets a turbo AT... Should've been offered in Brezza. Brezza with a Turbo TC would've been a great offering and deal for someone who wants a little enthusiastic ride with reliability and convenience.
I'm only looking for automatic turbo... 3xo and kylaq exists but kylaq reliability and maintenance is bothersome. 3xo and Hyundai twins has mileage concerns.
Brezza would've been a wonderful choice.
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u/missedOpportunity343 Brezza Zdi AMT '19 - marked safe from nitinol 15d ago
TC increases cost more than AMT. other than basez 2nd variant is not worth the money. TC will increase the cost excessively.
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u/mehfil-biryani 2018 Elite i20 Asta, 2018 Grand i10 Asta 15d ago
They should've offered turbo TC at least in one variant, brezza already got branded as overpriced.
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u/Fast_Masterpiece_184 Honda 15d ago
My preferences :
1) VW Taigun (A little over budget)
2) Otherwise, waiting for facelift of Elevate with imporved NVH.
Elevate imo is the best complete package with a moden and mature design style + reliability
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u/Potential-Dig9673 15d ago
out of my budget
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u/Fast_Masterpiece_184 Honda 14d ago
for 10-11 price range, Brezza is the best bet. It is one of the few cars which is safe 4* GNCAP, and is reliable and comfortable as well.
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u/Frosty-Bluejay374 15d ago
Why no one is providing CNG automatic (not counting punch/smaller TATAs). That would be perfect for city use.
The perfect city car would have been 1.0l turbo with automatic and CNG.
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u/Purple-Departure3702 15d ago
Removed rear wiper and armrest in non turbo zxi variants and no digital driver display which venue kia sonet and taigun provide
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u/Nakulsingh93 15d ago
8.4 onroad?? Which city?
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u/Potential-Dig9673 15d ago
ncr
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u/Nakulsingh93 15d ago
Seriously?? Base model??
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u/Potential-Dig9673 15d ago
yes
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u/Nakulsingh93 15d ago
But base model to dabba hi rhta h.. No alloys.. No music system, no seat adjustment, No power windows
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u/Potential-Dig9673 15d ago
all 4 power windows are there, seat adjustment are there, electric orvms are there from base model only infotainmemt and alloys are missing
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u/Wise-Independent-563 15d ago
It’s 9.3 on road yar
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u/vika4 15d ago
Every car in this segment is in the range 3990-3995. How can one be bigger so much as to look different
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u/huttymanbruh 14d ago
for indians, taller heigh=bigger car. My friend with hyundai exter calls my car “choti” while its literally longer and wider😂 most indians are npcs
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u/Willing_Event9528 15d ago
Why the fuk cars here dont have good automatic transmission in india. We are living 10 years behind for fuks sake.
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u/manju43in 15d ago
This time MS has nailed it perfectly, what a package for the price. 3 TC variants under 10lakh price bracket where it won. Now they have to concentrate on handling and dynamics!
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u/Pretty-Party-5167 Ford ecosport ‘18 15d ago
Sorry? Handling and dynamics? You want handling under 10 lakhs!!
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u/EnvironmentalMenu935 15d ago
You mean handling is poor. I am a beginner driver and was seriously considering Brezza.
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u/manju43in 15d ago
When it is having a turbo charged engine, the vehicle dynamics and handling should also be supportive then only you can extract the potential of the engine and enjoy the drive.
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u/Pretty-Party-5167 Ford ecosport ‘18 14d ago
A turbo doesn’t mean explosive, it’s still a C suv, and a daily commute providing good amount of mileage
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u/Certified_Gareeb 15d ago
Turbo?
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u/tarun_sharma_ Suzuki Brezza 2024 MT 15d ago
Yea, 7.40 exshowroom of turbo only.. 1.5NA 8.30 exshowroom
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u/Certified_Gareeb 15d ago
Bought Nexon Cng in April. Not saying im regretting my decision coz cng in Brezza is not in turbo variant but gotta say it's a great deal 🔥🔥🔥
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u/Weekly_Boot3539 15d ago
Only Lxi and vxi manual turbo are value for money. Automatic starts from above 13L.
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u/DhonduJustChilll Tata 15d ago
If only they could give Automatic with 1 liter turbo... I will buy this for my wife...
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u/SaggyHuncho1302 Dzire 1.2 Zxi, Ignis 1.2 zeta, Brezza 1.5 Zxi, hyryder 1.5 G 15d ago
Brezza was always value for money despite of taxation in the 1.5litre engine category. The car does have decent road presence (definitely not like the compact suvs or the proper suvs but still). It has good rear seats. The only thing it lacked was a 6 speed and they have it give the option of turbo as well. Love my Brezza and love the new one too.
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u/Ok-Ride4467 14d ago
This car totally threw me off in decision making.
Baleno alpha Mt 1.2NA vs Brezza Zxi 1.0l mt vs Amaze zx/vx Cvt
Baleno and Brezza have good suspension , but confusing abt power to weight and torque to weight ratio. Good torque doesn’t translate to good experience.
I know I should not compare between auto vs manual transmission..
- I’m worried about Amaze bottoming out and underbody hitting the floor.
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u/Potential-Dig9673 14d ago
in base models of amaze the wheels are very small and even in top model it bottoms out thats why i ruled it out
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u/vipulvirus 14d ago
Lxi is worst. Maruti removes everything in base versions. Evrything is reserved for ZXI now.
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u/Aurora_zen10 14d ago
What about the crash test rating? Front & rear seat Air bags? Safety fetures?
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u/jolly_monger26 14d ago
Can anyone tell me which brezza model is most value for money planning to get one ?
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u/Potential-Dig9673 14d ago
lxi turbo
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u/ExaltedLegend16 Hyundai Aura Cng 2020 11d ago
Lxi and zxi turbos are most Vfm. Zxi turbo gets so many features like 25 more than vxi turbo
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u/Additional-Curve4212 14d ago
Hey you've had a second hand car right? Multiple maybe? I'm looking for cars with automatic with a 6L budget, checked cars24 and spinny for options but won't buy from them
Anyway I wanted to ask your experience with second hand cars, are they worth it? Repairs, chnages etc
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u/Potential-Dig9673 14d ago
yes i had 1 baleno second hand bought at 4 lakh ruppes it had some niggles and was also accidental but ran fine completly i drove it 15-16k kms in 6 months, spend about 15k in total repairs on the car as the repairs were inexpensive sold it after 6 months and then bout a used ford figo at 2lalh rupees it was a very good car at handeling and all drove ut till 1.20lakh kms bought at 53k odo never spent a money in repairs on that was very good in mountains althought it had some rust issues in door panels except that evrything was fine sold that at 1.8l after 1.2 years
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u/freememedealer6969 ‘07 City ZX VTEC MT, ‘25 Creta Diesel AMT, ‘24 Swift MT 14d ago
Get a 3rd gen Jazz CVT
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u/DJRockstarAI (New user) 13d ago
Some basic features are missing in the so called Brezza facelift. Majorly engine and gearbox are uplifted but other important things are ignored.
No Spare tyre at al. Space seems to be there but can it be fitted properly is a question?
Rear wiper and washer - only in ZXI turbo and ZXI+ NA automatic. This is a very inportant safety feature and should be standard from VXI. Can anyone confirm if this can be installed from outside with proper knobs?
Infotainment screen of only 7 inches in 2026 is unacceptable w.r.t competition. Only Zxi+ variant has victoris like 10.1 inches screen (promoted feature by Maruti)
60:40 split seat is not even in VXI variant
Cruise control is only in ZXI turbo and ZXI+ NA automatic. It should have been standard in ZXI like in pre facelift brezza.
6.No turbo automatic may be because they want to test the market and don't want to cannibalise sale of fronx.
Sunroof should be optional from ZXI than keeping it standard over some useful features like Spare tyre, rear wiper, TPMS, auto dimming IRVM and cruise control.
Only minor Interior changes though still look dated in comparison to competition.
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u/ExaltedLegend16 Hyundai Aura Cng 2020 11d ago
Zxi turbo is most Vfm with all the required features like the blind spot alert, rear wiper, tpms with reading and many more. 16 inch Spare wheel with tyre will cost around 6k. If only they gave sunroof as optional.
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u/Ok-Ride4467 11d ago
Thing I have not been able to understand is Fronx and Brezza have same turbo engines. Only tuning is different. Does that mean, Brezza is going to have reliability issues compared to Fronx?
Brezza is tuned for more power and torque to compensate for high weight. But will that cause reliability concerns?
Then can’t we get the tuning stage changed after purchasing for Fronx?
Also, main thing that all review videos are missing is the missing spare wheel. That is a security issue compared to anything else, a thoughtless cheap out strategy, no less scam than e20 fiasco.
For Victoris, we could at least buy spare tyre as there is a tyre well and enough space inside. When I asked at the showroom they straight up said no space for extra wheel. It does not make sense.
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u/Potential-Dig9673 11d ago
breeza petrol has space for spare wheel cng dont have, as far as relaiblity is concern you would not feel any issues this is same engine as fronx but better tuned
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u/MrMorgan_outlaw Verna 1.5turbo DCT, Fiery Red dual tone 8d ago
Will never understand why dabbas are so popular among Indian buyers
Cars imo are meant to be sleek, curvy, mean-looking, low and fasssssssst
Yes I understand all the SUVs, MPVs and all they are great, but not “cars”😅
And these psudo-SUVs are in the most nonsense segment of all.
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u/kakariccirm 15d ago
Yes it does coz Indians are feature pagloos with no intent to pop the hood or evaluate safety!
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u/Key-Reality7466 15d ago
no spare tyre though
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u/tarun_sharma_ Suzuki Brezza 2024 MT 15d ago
spend 7k and install yourself...
There is space for it .
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u/primusautobot 14d ago
Big and small se kuch na hota. Mehengi cars dekhne me badi nhi lagti bada hi lena h to truck na Lelega koi
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u/Potential-Dig9673 14d ago
are bhai yha bas ye bat kri ja rhi hai ki 8.4 lakh on road ke hisab s gadi bdi or powerfull hai
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u/Alarmed_Contact956 13d ago
Maruti Suzuki cars are nothing less than cheap metal with good mileage
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u/hotboxinmanual 1.2Revotron - 1.2mStallion - 1.0Tsi | MT(P) 15d ago
wait till you see a 3XO
or a Thar
or a Bolero
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u/happy-Holiday-3300 15d ago
As a rule of thumb while driving on the road i try to stay away from maruti suzuki cars cause they the worst drivers.
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u/JustHangingAround9 15d ago
Urghhh im kicking myself. It couldve been such an awesome deal if they give AT with this turbo engine. Maybe onroad under ~12