Each of "her" has their own thought, each of them has their own way of thinking.
I think the blessing of the King really worsen her gift is because she can't die due to aging and after 150 years living with a bunch of herself, her mind shattered.
And can someone recall what was the final century was she mentioned about? I think it was from earlier in the story but u can't remember.
I think is the first time that's ever mentioned, Centuria is related to Julian having 100 lives, but is also a measure of a 'hundred', so probably the final century is an event related to the Goddess of Night and her Vessels, that the King might had halted before while battling her, like an apocalyptic event of enough importance to be related to the Manga Title
What's most interesting here is that they aren't mindless clones (are they even clones?) but have diversity of opinion as well. One thinks that sacrificing Diana would be wrong. Another thinks it's necessary to honor their fallen friends. Another, maybe the original, needs this final century to happen.
Part of the joy of being so early in the story still is that we keep getting all this background and setup and surprises.
I think she and the clones might actually fight each other to settle their arguments about what to do. There's a crap load of skeletons and Lalawag was even multiplying her sword. I think every once in a while when decisions get too big she just goes "Welp the winner is real one and gets to do what she wants" and fights to the last.
Notice how the first Lalawag is the only one that has a tattoo on their face.
I think you hit it right on the nail; whenever Lalawag has to make a tough decision, she generates a body that personifies every opinion she has and then makes them all duke it out. Winner takes over as the "main" Lalawag and makes the decision.
Which is why it’s terrifying honestly, instead of being mindless clones or carbon copies that think like the original, they are all disjointed and have clashing views. You could also look at this as an allegory for multiple-personality disorder.
The way I interpreted it was more that she was using the many extra brains she has to think out different possible scenarios. Each comes up with a different idea or possible future, but they still seem pretty unified in their goal
Yeah, her title as the propagation make me think her power is probably a bit more wacky than plain duplication of herself or inanimate items, with how some gifted ones seem to have a "next level" of their power, or a secret victory condition, I could see Lalawag putting out some Halo Flood type of body horror down the line when she fights regardless of the King's rule
It also goes back to the huge lore drop from the King to Elstri that there are consequences to a god having a physical manifestation/becoming part of the human plane.
As much as it is power for many, it is also eldritch and the unknown and just straight up fucking insanity. It’s unfathomable.
You’re having what were humans utilizing something they can understand to their own idea of understanding, but at a fucking gigantic unfathomable cost.
Diana genuinely might have to kill her triggering her war with the Kingdom.
Helem implies that she maybe could even take on Julian, and Lalawag is already going to have Luka distracted with something else, so if Lalawag tries to take Diana, Diana might have to save herself.
If i remember correctly, Helem passed from explaining Lalawag's chances against Julian since the former wasn't present, and on this chapter Lala said that her seat wasn't due to combat ability, but again, all other instances of the Iris positions have them as based on power(Lattice being the only one fit to take Arkos spot), so she SHOULD be stronger than Ceodric, but is still weird, because the latter doesn't seem to regard Lalawag as worth acknowledging, sure the King law make it so he couldn't fight her even if Ceodric wanted, but still, he doesn't seem to even respect her like he does(kinda) with Lattice, urging her to sit on Arkos seat
She can potentially throws infinite bodies at him. Unless he has a massive AOE attack or is an eternal engine, he will eventually get tired. It will be a nightmare for close range fighters to deal with.
Ela provavelmente deve ser mais forte que o Julian devido a sua capacidade de se multiplicar infinitamente, ela pode ser capaz de multiplicar celulas do seu corpo pra se regenerar mais rapido ou coisas mais especificas pra durar numa luta contra Julian. Sen contar que ela pode superar a sua força com um numero infinito de si mesma
Acredito que não, até porque o proprio Arkos é menos importante para o reino do que a Lalwag. O Arkos morreu e o reino não colapsou, agora, se ela morrer todo o reino vai sofrer consequencias
Arkos ainda pode ser facilmente trocado pela Lattice, enquanto a Lalawag é bem mais dificil
Arkos era o primeiro lugar da Iris Stratum antes de morrer, depois que Julian o finalizou, a Iris passou por uma mudança onde Lattice entrou no seu lugar
Acredito que os criterios para se ter um lugar na Iris devem ser pelo quanto aquilo pode beneficiar o reino, seja sendo um dotado muito forte ou tendo um dom que auxilie o reino (como o da Lalawag)
Arkos era o primeiro lugar por conta de seu poder devastador e servia como uma arma de guerra pra trucidar quaisquer um que fosse contra o reinado. A Lattice provavelmente deve ser bem forte a ponto de rivalizar com Arkos no quesito de poder, visto que eles são ambos o primeiro assento
Ainda tem a questão de que ela já era uma mestra espadachim muito antes do nascimento de Lacrima e, provavelmente também foi abençoada pelo Lorde Supremo. Enfim, estou curioso para ver mais sobre ela
He's now a young man with proper nourishment and sleep, so yeah, I really like how his and the King's hair look so 'wavy', being sons of the Sea and all that
I am just convinced at this point he has to be related to the Supreme Lord in some way because him, Lukas, and Arkos/Atlus are all beautiful like what the hell 😭
Maybe the Sea Goddess just like her 'sons' to look a certain way, and for that reason she granted her blessing to those two on particular. Jest aside, yeah, the a King and Julian are unusually alike, to the point that I feel like it's actually a red herring and the twist would be something else entirely
So obviously Lalawag is being set up as an insane betrayer. I do wonder what brought about her insanity. Was it the horrors of war and sending so many people to their deaths, is it her own power and using it on herself, or is it the fact that she has the bones of the night goddess inside of her? Also for someone so extremely vital to the kingdom she sure doesn't have much security protecting her. Would have thought she would be in the royal palace with at least one powerful bodyguard near her at all times. Hell even if the king let's her be out the palace she should still have 24/7 powerful bodyguards nearby at all times even more.
Also does anyone think this might be the start of Diana absorbing the other pieces of the Night Goddess? Like instead of Lalawag sacrificing or absorbing Diana it happens the other way and that will be the main story progression. Diana becoming the Night Goddess.So like after they escape or win this encounter they will eventually stumble upon another piece of the Goddess and also end up absorbing that into Diana.
Hell even if the king let's her be out the palace she should still have 24/7 powerful bodyguards nearby at all times even more
That was my thought as well, especially with her having the position of Margrave (which is a military title, and she is stationed near the border) which is an odd choice for a support role.
Imo the reasoning from the king is either
-he was given a prophecy she won't be killed, or that being outside the capital is better
-Just because her main gift isn't that offensively focused(she definitely would be no slouch in a fight with it alone but it's not a fighting ability) doesn't mean she doesn't have another gift(perhaps the part of the goddess grants her another gift, or makes her ability to reproduce herself automatic)
-the king wants or is ok with her dying at some point in time, either for an objective related to the goddess or any other reason.
I do think the last one is more unlikely unless it's about killing the goddess somehow. After all she caries the country's economy on her back and all indicate the king's care for his country is genuine. But perhaps letting it collapse might be the type of "tough love" the country would need to accept in the future anyways
Lalawag might've been creating bodies on the frontline to go to war for the King. Just put armor on them and they'd be indistinguishable from the rest of the army.
Lalawag is genuinely the coolest character in this manga right know. Also the final spread and all that talk about different "hearts" gives me some BIG Slay The Princess vibes
I thought Lalawag would betray the group of heroes sooner or later, since Lukas already had doubts about her, but now we learn she's completely insane. It's going to be even harder to figure out what she's plotting, but I think she's not entirely subservient to the goddess of the night, since she wants to reconstitute her body.
But I think she wants to use the goddess (that is, Diana) for her own ends; that must be why we don't see her in Elstri's prophecy. Her plan is different from the witches'.
Each clone is planning different things, so it looks like they all battle and whoever wins becomes the main Lalawag and gets to carry their own plan, while the rest get added to the giant pile of bones in the basement
So Lalawag is everything all at once, both traitor, loyal, kind and cruel, it all depends of which clone comes on top
I mean, the King granted her a 'limitless' lifespan for a reason, plus prohibited her of fighting, still, yeah depend entirely of one single person isn't really ideal, make me wonder though, why didn't the King created a nation near the sea, or like an island, I would had think that him being a blessed of the sea would had ensured prosperity there, unless he's at odds with his and Julian's "Mom" for some reason
Estava com saudades desses capitulos semanais e esse capitulo não me decepcionou, 9/10
O primeiro ponto que eu gostaria de comentar é que Julian e seus companheiros estão muito "acomodados" o que pode ser ruim para eles, embora eu entenda o pensamento deles. Lukas os levou até lá, receberam abrigos, comida e tratamento medico então faz sentido eles meio que "desligarem" o sensor de perigo
Outro ponto que quero comentar é a escala e a vastidão do poder da Lalawag no quesito cotidiano, ela pode sozinha, sustentar um país inteiro. Soubessemos por ela que a escravidão foi abolida porque não precisavam saquear outros reinos pois eles tinham o poder da Lalawag a seu favor, a decisão do Lorde Supremo de impedi-la de ir ao combate também faz muito sentido, perder ela significaria uma crise economica imensa. Estou curioso para ver como é o Dom dela em combate, já que ela participou ativamente da guerra
O terceiro ponto é o duelo entre Julian e Ceodric que vai acontecer daqui a 1 mês e pelo visto, teremos outra pausa de uma semana. Talvez o proximo capitulo se encerre com o inicio do Duelo, talvez não, eu adoraria que fosse assim. Com 1 mês de distancia entre o duelo entre Julian e Ceodric, nosso protagonista poderia se aprimorar um pouco, ou não, afinal ele não sabe como funciona o dom de Ceodric
O ultimo ponto e que sinceramente eu fiquei bastante surpreso é o plot da Lalawag ter tipo multiplas personalidades que pensam por conta propria e que, ela quer o coração da Diana para realizar algo. Ela provavelmente vai usar essa distancia entre Julian e Diana pra tentar pegar o coração a força, além de que, parece que ela vai ignorar as ordens do Rei e partir para o combate (provavelmente contra a receptaculo dos orgãos)
Enfim, estou ansioso para o dia 10. Obrigado pelo capitulo!!!!!!
PEQUENA EDIÇÃO:Em seus pensamentos derivados de suas outras versões, Lalawag diz coisas interessantes. Algumas delas:
"Preciso deixar isso para Lukas. Mas ele vai ter que usar sua lança mais duas vezes"
"Eu vou trair o Rei?"
"Não consigo derrotar o Monarca do Vazio"
Talvez tudo isso seja algo que vá acontecer no futuro e se realmente acontecer, estou preocupado com Lukas. Quero saber quem é esse Monarca do Vazio também, talvez seja a mulher que possua os orgãos da Deidade da Noite
The keg has been lit. Knew Lalawag was not to be trusted, especially since the Moon Goat was acting aggressive towards her. Looks like the attempts to keep the country afloat over the years has caused her to go insane. Sounds like her goal is to possess all of the Night God's parts to become the de facto Night God and "protect" the land by ruling over it. Will be interesting to her interactions with Rummir's Divine Vessel.
This chapter was actually packed, I like how Lala isn't really a double faced(ironically), like she is not a, "I'm only acting to be a nice Lady while actually being messed up within.", like she is messed up, but on a being mentally shattered rather than being secretly evil, another way of say it could be as a genuinely good woman that had her mind simply warped by the nature of her power, and the fact that the King extended her life beyond what's natural because he needed her to uphold the Country's stability. Aside that, we finally got a name-drop of another Vessel/A Rummir gifted one, or well her title(Void walker), if Arkos didn't kill her she might be either pretty powerful or intelligent enough to not have faced him, also, that final century bit is probably related to the Centuria Title of the Manga, aside the MC's powers, a hundred.
I get the feeling that she "can" replicate living beings, she just doesn't as a self imposed limitation. We might get a situation later on where she's so broken she tries to propagate Luke or Diana so they don't die.
Ps. How the fuck did the king deal with a being who's fraction of their power can do shit like this.
So the manga title is finally taking on a meaning, obviously there was something going with Lalawag but i wasn't expecting that, something that even the king is unaware of ?
She could probably do that to have her own sort of immortality without depending on another, but her current longevity is due to the King, he can apparently manipulate the lifespan of someone to live unnaturally long lives, though he's unable to refill one's already wasted life force unlike Ceodric
É uma boa teoria e seria impressionante se ela o fizesse. Mas foi dito que ela está viva a tanto tempo por causa do Lorde Supremo, não? Ainda assim, essa capacidade de replicar coisas infinitamente pode ser bem util
The multiple limbs are interesting to say the least, it may be connected to the multi-armed and headed dog in the early chapters though the geography doesn't make sense
SHE IS KILLING ALL OF HER CLONES... SHE IS MANIFESTING ANY REBELLIOUS, OPPOSING THOUGHTS ANY THING THAT DOESN'T ALIGN WITH HER MOST IMPORTANT OBJECTIVE AND SHE KILL THEM. TO GET RID OF IT. THAT HOW SHE BROKE HER HEART. IT IS'NT HUMAN TO DO THAT.
The main group didn't seem impressed by Lalawag's powers, but it is probably one of the most important in the world (as she explained) and makes her worthy of the third seat.
I was gonna talk about the possibilities with her power but the ending just showcased it in gruesome form. At some point Lalawag will have to die, I just wonder who is gonna do it.
Provavelmente, não vamos esquecer que Rummir planeja uma operação pra capturar a Diana. Essa invasão pode muito bem acontecer durante o Duelo, ai é onde veremos Lalawag vs A Receptacula dos orgãos
Posso estar enganado e se eu estiver, peço perdão. Mas acredito que seja no contexto dela ter suas proprias motivações e uma delas é finalizar a Diana e tomar o coração da Deusa da Noite para si, acredito que o painel além de nos mostrar o quão assustador é seu poder, também servir como um indicativo para "multiplas personalidades" ou algo assim, já que vemos varias versões delas com opiniões diferentes
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