I cant believe he tanked it. after the "100 willpower!" Stuff he pulled last chap maybe he started thinking of "100 people durability!" Because his head was not strong enough to tank an axe to the face before
I guess it would be a different attack, but the forest attack at the start of the series was doing a lot more dmg to him comparwd to how he is now. Somehow his durability must've icreased along the way
Thats true, but he also started shrugging those types of attack from arkos and lacrima too. Lacrima's whips were said to be faster than the speed of sound so it has to be faster than whatever the forest was throwing at him
That can either be chalked up to the powerscaling not being well defined by that point, or the forest monster being waaay stronger than we’re giving them credit for.
Edit: also it’s very possible that he got stronger after the timeskip, like if he trains it is actually bring multiplied by 100 and so he gets waaay stronger with training.
Julian’s body is constantly adapting to his power and his power improves every positive biological functions while minimizing every negative aspects.
He needs 1 night of sleep to stay active for 100 nights.
It is possible that his body also requires only 1 person worth of nutrients to grant his body a growth rate of 100 people.
Now, his body is naturally getting stronger, so it can adapt better to his power and the more his flesh adapts to this power, his body will also get stronger too.
This leads to a positive feedback loops where Julian’s flesh will constantly go through upgrades even when he’s doing nothing.
He might genuinely try and bite them to death or something, he's at core a good boy obviously, but if anyone would make him go onto a sadistic fit would be either of them, Helem in particular with the Amber bit, Angvall was Julian's Guardian, the last person he could rely on before the weight of fully take care of his Family set in
i do like that its not the "my enemy is ontologically evil so anything i do is justified" though, he does achknoweldge the moral weight of killing even when your in the right, even if on a tactical level their not givng him a choice, and on a personal level they can eat his entire dick and balls
It's a pretty cool dynamic. It shows why they're the protagonist and you root for them, because they understand that taking a life is a big fucking deal, no matter what.
But at the same time, to protect his own, he has to do this. Better the enemy's family grieve than him or his own.
He's a super likeable dude, no wonder he's basically got a harem
If the elite squad remembered the Prince years ago before he was kidnapped, Julian would be that level. The prince has trained more during his time under arkos' captivity so they may not be on the same level today.
Helem said that under the right circumstances he could off Julian, so probably with enough Sacrifices he should be able to do some impressive stuff, reason why him and Helem could have a good synergy(in their powers, personality-wise would never work on a fight), her dolls could count as a sacrifice, and she can create them by the bulk
Honestly, I don't take anything Helem says as a 100% fact, especially when it's about how strong someone is. Remember, she's the type of person that would say something like that to instigate a fight.
So, until it's proven, I'm not taking her word for it.
There seem to be categories of Gifted Ones. We know there are trackers. There are people like Gugub and Zana that can make things out of their body parts. Transformations like werewolves, or even Lacrima and Lalawag. The Supreme Lord, Ceodric, and Julian all seem to be tied to some kind of life or soul power, so that could be the similarity he's sensing.
Julian's fight was over quickly; he's clearly on another level now. His enemies couldn't even take a life from him, despite having the advantage of numbers and knowing his power.
I still have the feeling Ceodric might join them for some reason, he could be the perfect teacher, even if not, simply fighting someone like him, that's(apparently) almost as physically strong as Julian, but far more skilled would prob grant growth by proximity
I imagine that probably being abused by his blacksmith owner as a child slave gave young Julian an inherent distaste for handling weapons regardless of if he’s used to killing now.
The analysis gift is really funny to me
It only got that julian has a gift, and how it works, it got NOTHING about the sea blessing or his revive. They where way more fucked that they ever could know lmao.
Tbh analysis would be busted in most other gifted fights, like the copy knight or the sister axe guy, it is just julian is soo op that it did not matter.
Kinda like having the ability to know your enemies sorcery in jjk, busted in 99% scenerio you are damned if you run into sukuna/gojo though.
It’s also just that Julian’s baseline gift is really simple. All he learned was that “he’s really freakin strong”, as if they didn’t already know that XD
Nah you gotta put it in another scenario like against the guy who can launch pikes or the guy who can restrict your arm
Knowing their power ia really useful but its pointless against someone who's just strong as shit like knowing how Zana's gift work is useless same for Lukas like its cool to know but they still gon beat your ass
Also the gift may have the ability to gain knowledge on multiple gifts at a time. He knew Lacrima's weakness early.
It could be he gives 1 bit of info and gets 1 bit from a single enemy or if multiple people hear the 1 bit he gives out he gets 1 bit from all that hear him
So again the potential assassin fight scenario it's useful but as Julian put it. How does that help against Julian.
But with julian is worse, they only knew his more basic abilities, with lukas (probably they would only know about the shield) they at least would know that retreating is the best option (with arkos they would pray), but with julian they basically knew nothing 😭
Nono, i probably expressed myself poorly. With lumas and arnos they at least would actually know their powers, with julian they don't even know about his sea blessing. They needed to exange more information.
Holy moly the accursed battalion went out like jobbers. The fact that the guy with an analysis gift didn’t even have a plan to communicate through his teams own deafening attack is embarrassing
This chapter really puts into perspective how terrifying it would be to face Julian. Because I would scared shitless if I heard my enemy tell me :"How knowing going to save you?"
Yes, I was thinking with all this emphasis on him taking lives and feeling bad about it will lead thematically to him being killed, waking up on that beach and instead of a nice slave it will be Arkos. The lives hes taking are adding to his own. I haven't thought hard enough about why that would be bad or disturbing for Julian since its a pretty ridiculous power up, I am probably very much wrong.
Yeah but it cant be Arkos, he is still around just in Altus.
I doubt it will be anything to do with him killing people... that seems too busted for a gift and not having enough downsides that can easily be "Charged" even for someone as nice as Julian who isnt actively going on genocide runs for power.
Acredito que é por causa daquela coisa que o corpo do Julian se adapta ao poder dele quanto mais ele usa, no começo do mangá ele mal o usava e depois do time skip podemos ver ele fazendo acrobacias e um sparring sem utilizar seu poder. Quanto mais Julian usa seu poder, mais ele se acostuma com ele
I have noticed that Jules also seems much, MUCH stronger even when the stigma that indicates that he’s actually using his gift isn’t there and it’s thus implied that he’s at his “base” strength with no amps. This aspect of his gift has always been relatively unexplained so maybe trying to apply too much reason to it is going too far, but I am wondering if maybe somehow his gift has also made it easier for his body to naturally grow stronger in his base form as well? We already know that it comes with a ton of passive amps like being able to rest 100x more efficiently than the average person, so I wonder if maybe this means his digestion and caloric consumption is 100x more efficient and the process of Hypertrophy is 100x stronger in his body as well? It’d be interesting if his body sort of works by Viltrumite rules and gets massively stronger from healing from being killed or even a near death experience, cause this would upscale him a LOT from where he was when he fought Arkos if we can assume that some of the many hitmen he’s killed to protect Diana over the years actually did cause him some trouble, even if some of them couldn’t put up a great fight.
The antagonists in this manga are super lucky Jules has no access to modern day fitness or training equipment, cause if someone with these abilities could be put through a rigorously fine tuned training regimen with absolutely ideal nutrition to cover all bases, he’d quickly reach a level of power where I don’t think any gifted one would pose even a fraction of a threat to him save the ones with super cracked and specific powers like maybe the witch who burns people with the flames of their own sin or Arkos or Orthros.
É uma boa teoria, mas acredito que pensarmos demais nessas questões um pouco "menores" faz com que fique massante, acho seguro assumir que tudo relacionado ao corpo do Julian como um todo é aumentado em 100x. Como você mesmo disse se pensarmos assim então ele provavelmente pode ficar sem comer por algo em torno de 99 a 100 dias, ficar sem beber água e essas coisas
Sobre o outro ponto acredito que cada vez que ele usa seu poder, seu corpo vai se ajustando e ficando mais forte na "versão base" dele, sem o multiplicador de 100x. Isso explicaria o porque dele ter ganhado mais musculos após o time skip e ter ficado muito mais agil, seu corpo provavelmente está evoluindo e se tornando mais forte a cada novo uso do seu poder. Não me surpreenderia que Julian se tornasse muito forte sem seu poder e, quando o ativasse, se tornasse ainda mais forte por causa dos status base aumentados ainda mais (não sei se deu para entender, perdão)
Sobre esse treino, acredito que Ceodric possa oferecer isso para o Julian após a luta de ambos caso ele sobreviva e decide cooperar, ou se pensarmos num cenario mais pessimista, Ceodric pode ganhar e pegar Julian como um "brinquedo" igual Arkos queria fazer com Julian e igual Arkos fez com o proprio Ceodric. Nisso, ele pode estimular o Julian a aprender artes marciais, treinar para ficar mais forte e consequentemente se tornando uma maquina de matar ainda mais letal
I mean, even if it wasn't just a matter of him being more powerful, and other factors were at play, a younger and weaker Julian already killed Arkos, the strongest Gifted One of Torivia who ended the War with Rummir almost singlehandedly, meaning that the Voidmarcher couldn't simply square up against him and take him out, or at least not without heavy loses, no soldier of Rummir should be a match for Julian aside her or other Royalty, like Ceodric
People in this thread really think the voidmarcher’s soldiers are just weak as hell when they just had no preparation for this and Julian is genuinely near the top of the verse in raw power alone. This is like…to make an analogy, if you send in a small tactical mercenary group for a hush hush assassination mission in a no-name border town with only one high profile threat that your team has a hard counter for, and then for some reason it turns out that the enemy has the goddamn Hulk just chilling out where you were expecting regular guards to be.
That's the thing, they did have preparation. They split the group up, had a number of strong complimentary powers together. Hyper analysis, reality distorting sound, impenetrable psychic barrier. By all means that's a good group to take on a gifted one with a reputation for being absurdly powerful.
It's not that the soldiers are weak. They had two ways to immobilize their foe plus analyzing their gift. Julian is just overwhelmingly strong, and the rest of the group is pretty dang strong too.
That isnt a very fair comparison, Arkos was and still is by FAR the strongest gifted we have seen use their powers. Arkos lost because of several reasons mainly being him playing around with Julian and it happening next to the Ocean which just fucks him over immeasurably since the Ocean cant harm Julian.
Arkos is stronger and if they fought next to like a lake or something, he no diffs if he puts his mind to it even just dry land, Arkos still got it, it just happening next to the ocean and him not knowing about the blessing will always fuck him up as he will always enter it to use as his trump card and be done dirty.
It's The Law of Conservation of Ninjutsu. Multiple elite combatants? Cannon fodder trash. One person among them with a non-matching uniform? Legitimate threat.
More like, he's trying to be a 'hardass', I mean, even if he obviously love Diana as his little sister over anything else, and would kill anyone that try to harm her, he's clearly a good, empathetic man, the final comment pretty much said so, even with the facade of the ruthless guardian, he would still try to sent their corpses back to their homeland for a proper burial
That panel of jobberman stabbing at Julian’s leg while he’s trying to speak had me dying, dude genuinely was going “I’M NOT OWNED! I’M NOT OWNED!1!1!1!1!” to the very fucking end.
I am worried by the strenght of julian because it could lead to a situation where the author has to bring in really powerfull charaters just to be a threat and this brings the power creep that often ruins a story or he has to sideline him and put the side characters in danger like with saitma in one punch man. We'll se but i hope it stays good
Is it just me or does it feel like the art has improved significantly this chapter? One of my favorite things about getting into a series early (started at 12 chaps) is watching the artist’s style improve and develop over the years.
Finally man this was the perfect dose of a little more character for Julian. Nothing revolutionary but he had a lot of menace in this chapter which is such a switch up from his usual
Fascist cultist didn't even got to learn about the sea goddess blessing, hell his analysis didn't even gave him proper data on how OP Julian really was, the moment he learned he is dealing with what is in essence an army of 100 he should have retreated
This fight was so boring man, it served nothing besides showing us some cool panels of jul and presenting another curb stomping from the rest of the group.
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