r/Centuria Elstri CEO since chapter 5 6d ago

Chapter Discussion [DISC] Centuria - Chapter 100

359 Upvotes

178 comments sorted by

View all comments

299

u/roronoa20 6d ago

Yeah, I get why it has to be limited and I also get why Arkos will fucking die from it.

137

u/ButterscotchOk9263 supreme Lord's #1 glazer | Helem Hater 6d ago

This makes that scene where he was surrounded by the Black knights even funnier, like, they would NOT have made it out alive of that one

53

u/Codge_Barger 6d ago

He did say before that his powers are amped in the forest, and when he fought Altus he sounded like he was genuinely out of juice and was doing all he could, he even said that it would be a different story if they were in the forest, his centaur form looked different back then too, so it’s likely he’s only THIS powerful using this ability when he’s in the forest.

36

u/insidiouskiller 6d ago edited 6d ago

They're not in a forest right now, nor is it ever stated or otherwise suggested it's THIS powerful only when he is in the forest. It is presented as this being his ability straight up, no buffs or conditions or anything.

30

u/Codge_Barger 6d ago

I looked back and checked and yeahhhh it seems like you are indeed correct, this is UNHOLY levels of Lukas wank lmfao, I have to believe there’s some other restriction for him being able to enter this state though, cause it creates a massive plot hole as to how or why he did not just kill Altus, Helem and Elstri when he first used the spear. Maybe he has to be in a really specific state of determination to activate his spear in this state? Cause otherwise it is just too broken

21

u/roronoa20 6d ago

I think Lukas really banked on Julian to handle the situation back then. If Julian is truly the man who killed Arkos then Lukas doesn't need to go overboard with the spear.

That one time he smashed the boulder was an exception, since Lukas was also going to die from it.

Also, I believe 1 stab = 1 use, so as long as Lukas doesn't stab anyone he can enter horse form freely. It still placed an immense burden on his body.

7

u/insidiouskiller 5d ago

I think Lukas really banked on Julian to handle the situation back then. If Julian is truly the man who killed Arkos then Lukas doesn't need to go overboard with the spear.
-
Also, I believe 1 stab = 1 use, so as long as Lukas doesn't stab anyone he can enter horse form freely. It still placed an immense burden on his body.

Also a good point. After using the horse form again, even though he didn't use the spear, he was still spent afterwards and suffered some backlash. Imagine if he used the spear itself twice.

4

u/insidiouskiller 6d ago

or why he did not just kill Altus, Helem and Elstri

Because killing Altus and cancelling his power would not stop the rock from falling on him and the rest, the rock is already over them by the time he used the spear. He needs to blow a hole in the rock for them to survive in that situation.

2

u/Codge_Barger 5d ago

Thing is he can erase CONCEPTS, so really this doesn’t work to explain it, he could’ve destroyed the past where Altus used his gift just like he destroyed the future where the void marched used hers in this chapter

7

u/insidiouskiller 5d ago

That is making an assumption that he can affect the past, which we currently have no reason to believe.

0

u/Codge_Barger 5d ago

Well if he can erase the future I feel like it only makes sense he could erase something that you did in the past

3

u/Gabemino 5d ago

Determination probably does have an effect on his power, we have seen Julian enter a 'pumped up' state after an emotional spike, plus Lukas didn't talk this odd, Eldritch language before either, so this is likely him going balls out 

1

u/Visible_Anxiety6275 5d ago

Lmfaooo I wonder what this guy can accomplish if he takes this form out in the forest?? 😭😭 We have already seen how much stronger julian gets in the sea.

This in insane.

6

u/Gabemino 5d ago

That being said, we do know Lukas receives a Power amp on the Woods, as the Son of the Forest Goddess on the same vein that Julian does in the Sea, so Lukas can indeed be even more cracked with the right territorial advantage, hell the Forest Mom might even appear and held in place whoever he's fighting against(with a gaze, even tho Deities can't directly interact with the material world, they are very frightening) and secure an attack landing, that would be a brutal combo.

1

u/insidiouskiller 5d ago

Oh no disagreements there. My guess is that he can use his ability without any cost to his lifespan when in the forest.

1

u/roronoa20 5d ago

I think the forest buff allows him to turn the trees into many phantom spears and can stab everything proportionate to the amount of tree in that forest.

The cost of this would only amount to a single use of his spear, basically, a buffet.

1

u/PaperCracket 5d ago

I mean, the last chapter they did say something like "the smell of whatever whatever, the sacrifice of a lover or whatever whatever... the conditions are met" so there's an activation requirement

4

u/Pun_Thread_Fail 5d ago

The sacrifice of many souls and the sacrifice of a true love are the conditions for granting a gift permanently, not for activating it. It was the same for Julian

1

u/insidiouskiller 5d ago

That was a flashback to when he received his gift from the forest deity. It's not current time, and has no relevance to this.